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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
13 Nov 15 UTC
Scottish MP on trial for lying
Here's a fascinating case. A Member of Parliament actually being taken to court for lying - and in his defence, admitting that he lied, but arguing that's just something politicians do, so he shouldn't be held to account for it.
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Nescio (1059 D)
12 Nov 15 UTC
What do you think of this?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34801195
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
09 Nov 15 UTC
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B.O.G. Memorial Game
Hilariously B.O.G. received the banhammer today. I vote we have a game in to celebrate his passing / mourn his loss / thank the Mods for purging him from our midsts.
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happyplayer (130 D)
11 Nov 15 UTC
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You have 2 cows
I thought this was hilarious.
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denis (864 D)
11 Nov 15 UTC
can black sea support hold, Bulgaria south coast?
whats the ruling?
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rolandgp (105 D)
12 Nov 15 UTC
Invite players
Hi, how do I invite specific players to a new game I have created?
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peterwiggin (15158 D)
09 Nov 15 UTC
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TPP
Should I be concerned about the TPP? Why or why not?
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
12 Nov 15 UTC
Join my game pls
I'm new
I've invited some friends I know IRL (naikan, daddyo, the_captain, bo_sox, grjones, fuck if I know if they've joined yet though).
gameID=169676; PW: Scoth
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
06 Nov 15 UTC
Carnage, VT, 2015
Dave says hello
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wjessop (100 DX)
10 Nov 15 UTC
Diet Coke/Pepsi
Diet soda drinks. No sugar, low calories.

Do you drink them? Do you detest them? Opinions, facts, discussion.
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Claesar (4660 D)
11 Nov 15 UTC
Playing in the same game with a friend
Is it allowed for me to specifically join a game together with my friend(s), so we can work together and easily dominate a game? It's technically not multying yet I thought there was something against it in the rules.. Can't find it anymore though.
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jason4747 (100 D)
11 Nov 15 UTC
Request for modetator assistance in "You're a drop in the rain"
Request for modetator assistance in "You're a drop in the rain." The game is paused and we could use some help unpausing it. Thanks.
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Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
11 Nov 15 UTC
The last moments of World War I
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/haunting-selfies-premonitions-of-death-and-suicidal-attacks-the-last-moments-of-world-war-i/story-fnq2o7dd-1227604047870
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
09 Nov 15 UTC
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Site issues
See inside
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Benjamin Franklin (712 D(G))
11 Nov 15 UTC
Good italy cd to pick up
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=169054
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
09 Nov 15 UTC
Thucydides is alive
For those of you maintaining a candlelight vigil, I am not dead. But as you can see I kind of dropped out of the forum. Probably for the best. See you all later.
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denis (864 D)
08 Nov 15 UTC
We might need a replacement for Turkey in this game.
Good position, it will go into civil disorder if moves aren't entered in this retreats phase. Who wants in?
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TheMinisterOfWar (553 D)
08 Nov 15 UTC
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WebDipper wins Netherlands Diplomacy Championship 2015
WebDip regular TheWizard is the new Dutch Champion! Very solid showing by many others - too many to name.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153196104342011&set=gm.1082521041757991&type=3&theater
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fulhamish (4134 D)
06 Nov 15 UTC
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Mods overstepping the mark
''If the forum demands it, I shall ban BOG so that we can end this discussion. /s''

Is this overstepping the mark? In my view yes it is.
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Need Replacement
Hello, not sure how this works, but if a mod could pause this game before England NMRs, and force him into CD, that would be swell.

gameID=169388
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BaldOldGuy (74 DX)
02 Nov 15 UTC
Facts based discussion on climate change
Nobody denies that the earth changes. Mountains form with shifting plate tectonics. We had an Ice Age, and then the Ice Age went away. All without man on the earth. Yes, climate changes. Let’s have a facts based discussion on climate change.
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BaldOldGuy (74 DX)
02 Nov 15 UTC
We know that without Carbon Dioxide, human life would not exist. CO2 is plant food. Plants create oxygen, which is necessary for human life. No CO2, you are dead.
We also know that CO2 is a greenhouse gas. CO2 is about 3 % of the atmosphere. Man Made CO2 is about .28% of the atmosphere. An infinitesimal amount.
I know Diplomacy players are among the smartest people in the world. So I ask you – do the math. Show how man-made CO2 increases the earth’s temperature. And don’t just say most scientists agree, or the computer models show it to be real.
In formatting your response, also explain how the temperature on Mars and Mercury varies exactly as the temperature on the earth. Which suggests all warming and cooling comes from the sun.
Any opinion expressed without facts proves you are a religious zealot and should be ignored.
TrPrado (461 D)
02 Nov 15 UTC
Climate change isn't just about CO2...
diplomat61 (223 D)
02 Nov 15 UTC
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Fact: 10% is not infinitesimal.
diplomat61 (223 D)
02 Nov 15 UTC
Some people deny that the climate is changing; they are petro-zealots and should be ignored.
diplomat61 (223 D)
02 Nov 15 UTC
We would be much better served by a discussion about how to respond to climate change, rather than the arguing about the causes.
BaldOldGuy (74 DX)
02 Nov 15 UTC
dip -"We would be much better served by a discussion about how to respond to climate change, rather than the arguing about the causes." We need to understand the cause to be able to craft a possible solution. If all climate change is caused by the sun and plate tectonics, there is nothing we can do. Taxes on carbon are a meaningless reaction.
BaldOldGuy (74 DX)
02 Nov 15 UTC
dip "Some people deny that the climate is changing; they are petro-zealots and should be ignored." As I mentioned, nobody denies climate changes. Weather and climate changes every day. The question is the cause, and what we can do to change natural cycles. What caused the last ice age? Why did it go away?
diplomat61 (223 D)
02 Nov 15 UTC
"If all climate change is caused by the sun and plate tectonics, there is nothing we can do." - You mean there is nothing we can do to stop it. I mean how do we live with it.

"Taxes on carbon are a meaningless reaction." - You reveal your true colours.
BaldOldGuy (74 DX)
02 Nov 15 UTC
TrP "Climate change isn't just about CO2..." Exactly. It is about the sun. We had an ice age and the ice age went away. Why?
TrPrado (461 D)
02 Nov 15 UTC
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Humans are the leaders of deforestation. Deforestation substantially decreases the amount of plants on the earth. With less plants, wouldn't query 1 of your OP assertions dictate some sort of effect on oxygen? Climate change happens naturally, but we're a catalyst of sorts.
BaldOldGuy (74 DX)
02 Nov 15 UTC
dip ""Taxes on carbon are a meaningless reaction." - You reveal your true colours." Show me how taxes on carbon make a difference. You don't know that carbon makes a difference, but you believe on taxes on carbon. Totally incoherent.
Fluminator (1500 D)
02 Nov 15 UTC
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Diplomacy players are among the smartest people in the world? Hah!
diplomat61 (223 D)
02 Nov 15 UTC
CO2 is a greenhouse gas. Reducing greenhouse gas is a good thing. Carbon taxes encourage lower CO2 emissions.

In other words, human CO2 emissions may not be a factor in rising temperatures (as you insist) but they can be part of reducing the impact on life.
BaldOldGuy (74 DX)
02 Nov 15 UTC
Flu "Diplomacy players are among the smartest people in the world? Hah!" second only to chess players. I'm rated 1875
BaldOldGuy (74 DX)
02 Nov 15 UTC
dip -"Reducing greenhouse gas is a good thing." Why? Greenhouse gases keep us alive. Look at Mars. They have no greenhouse gases. Again, I asked this to be a facts based discussion, not a political or religious discussion.
Fluminator (1500 D)
02 Nov 15 UTC
I'm going to agree that a carbon tax would be dumb.
BaldOldGuy (74 DX)
02 Nov 15 UTC
TrP"Humans are the leaders of deforestation. Deforestation substantially decreases the amount of plants on the earth." 90 percent of continental United States’ indigenous forest has been removed since 1600. Is that a bad thing? If so, why?
diplomat61 (223 D)
02 Nov 15 UTC
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"I'm rated 1875" so you are about 140 years behind. Explains a lot.

"Greenhouse gases keep us alive. Look at Mars. They have no greenhouse gases." I said reduce, not eliminate.
diplomat61 (223 D)
02 Nov 15 UTC
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"Is that a bad thing? If so, why?"

Because forests are particularly good at subsuming CO2. The carbon cycle was identified by Lavoisier and Priestly in the 18th century so you should have heard of it.
BaldOldGuy (74 DX)
02 Nov 15 UTC
dip -" I said reduce, not eliminate." Which greenhouse gases would you reduce, and why? Be specific. Show the math. Not just your religious beliefs.
BaldOldGuy (74 DX)
02 Nov 15 UTC
dip "Because forests are particularly good at subsuming CO2. " So, you are saying CO2 is a good thing?
Yoyoyozo (65 D)
02 Nov 15 UTC
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@BaldOldGuy
Here is my argument:

You've gotten the facts wrong. CO2 is about 400 ppm of the atmosphere, which is .04%. The fact that the variance of a few hundredths of a percent correlates that strongly to most of the rises and falls of the temperature of the earth says a lot about how little difference can impact a lot. Here is the chart if you'd like to see by yourself, tons of research has gone into this
http://www.planetseed.com/relatedarticle/co2-and-temperature-change

Secondly, depending on your definition of manmade, humans have had a part in the vast majority of the new CO2 emissions. Sure dead trees and oceanic emissions are considered natural, but deforestation causes more CO2 output than input, in a system that is semiclosed and is supposed to be equal in the long run.

Think about like this, there is a set amount of CO2 that can exist on earth (based on the amount of Oxygen and Carbon in the air.) It cycle through the carbon and oxygen cycles and only during a certain stage does the two exist as CO2. What humans are doing is taking dormant Carbon from the ground and putting it in the air, normally, higher CO2 count applies pressure for trees to grow bigger snd strong and make more bigger stronger trees to balance the cycle, but humans are killing off the trees that are supposed to be taking in this carbon. Also the pollution of the ocean inhibits it's ability to dissolve CO2, further creating a net positive queue of CO2 in the atmosphere. The worst part is that it creates a positive feedback loop that raises temperatures, subsequently the temperature of the oceans, further inhibiting it's ability to dissolve CO2, which creates an event bigger breach of the cycle.

So my point is that, sure we may not have a direct impact of the CO2 outputs, but we have a dangerous indirect impact. Even if we created absolutely 0 emissions of our own, just by inhibiting the absorbsion and dissolution aspects of the Carbon cycle, we cause climate change.

Its pretty much impossible that Earth has enough convertable carbon to become like Venus, which is like 95% carbon atmosphere and the atmosphere is much thicker, but Earth certainly has enough to melt the entirety of its icecaps, which is a big issue in itself.

Finally, the point I would like to make is that regardless of whether its manmade or natural, humans have a political, economic, and social interest to prevent climate change. Now that we have an idea of how it is caused (the ebb of greenhouse gases) we can control it to prevent disasters like the melting of the ice caps. If that we to occur, see levels would rise and wipe out thousands of coastal cities, causing trillions of dollars of damage, and displacing over a billion people (source:http://worldoceanreview.com/en/wor-1/coasts/living-in-coastal-areas/)

2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
02 Nov 15 UTC
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The Titanic isn't sinking! My end is 20 feet up in the air!
Fluminator (1500 D)
02 Nov 15 UTC
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I refuse to +1 that.
BaldOldGuy (74 DX)
02 Nov 15 UTC
Yoy You said alot, but I want to address this point first.
"Finally, the point I would like to make is that regardless of whether its manmade or natural, humans have a political, economic, and social interest to prevent climate change. "
Question 1
How could humans have prevented the last Ice Age?
Question 2
How could Humans have ended the last Ice Age?
BaldOldGuy (74 DX)
02 Nov 15 UTC
2WL Funny
diplomat61 (223 D)
02 Nov 15 UTC
WTF has religion to do with this?

FYI I am an atheist.
BaldOldGuy (74 DX)
02 Nov 15 UTC
dip "WTF has religion to do with this?" Because you believe in something not supported by facts.You believe in the religion of man-made global climate change. What caused the last ice age? Why did the last ice age go away? Answer with facts, not a religious belief.
diplomat61 (223 D)
02 Nov 15 UTC
"So, you are saying CO2 is a good thing?"

Not per se, as you would know if you actually understood what I had written. Too little is bad, too much is bad. This is true of all greenhouse gases. Reduce any of them and we will be in a better position to deal with climate change due to changes in the Sun's output.
diplomat61 (223 D)
02 Nov 15 UTC
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I have given you facts you smug old git.

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ssorenn (0 DX)
07 Nov 15 UTC
The Abomonation.
3 game series.

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Middelfart (1196 D)
09 Nov 15 UTC
Would it be possible to make a new kind of CD?
Would it be possible to make some sort of interconnected CD-rule between games? Fx if you CD in one game every other game you're playing where you have the first NMR you're kicked instantly without waiting for the second?
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
09 Nov 15 UTC
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The hypocrisy of the jingoistic British right wing
This row about Jeremy Corbyn not bowing quite enough is taking the piss.
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mdean (100 D)
09 Nov 15 UTC
Creating a new game
I am hoping to start a new game to play just with a few friends of mine around the country. I haven't created my own game before. Is there any way I can restrict who can join a game I create to make sure only my friends can join?
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brainbomb (290 D)
06 Nov 15 UTC
Why the college football Playoff committee should be fired
Biggest cause for concern I have in year 2 of this so called "system" is that for the first 4 weeks of these people sitting down to rank everyone they come up with even worse logic than the coaches and AP polls.
I realize you cant get everything right all the time, but this years first ranking feels more like a house of cards just begging to be knocked down.
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denis (864 D)
08 Nov 15 UTC
Anyone up for a One v One on Vdip?
If you're a member on Vdip and would like to play a One v One game let me know.
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sirdallas (1202 D)
08 Nov 15 UTC
When does this maitenance session end?
Does anyone know when our games will be open to play again?
I'm not sure how long these things take.
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kestasjk (95 DMod(P))
08 Nov 15 UTC
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Instability / locking issues
Hi all, see within for details about recent downtime
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Maniac (184 D(B))
04 Nov 15 UTC
New haiku game
Two more players needed
gameID=169332
Password 575
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