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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Jul 14 UTC
Nominations for The Greatest Musician/Musical Act of All-Time
To get away for awhile from fights over foreign fights and people being X'd out here (please don't smite me, Maniac!) we begin the follow-up to our Greatest Author of All-Time Tournament with the search for the Greatest Musician/Musical Act of All-Time! Regional groups this time, US/UK/Europe/World (unless someone has a better grouping plan.) Either way, once again, everyone gets 4 noms, and we'll start when we fill out our Bracket of 64, 16 per group. Go! :)
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Jul 14 UTC
I nominate:

Mozart (my favorite all-around musical-type person ever, dominating my iPod.) :p
Puccini (favorite opera composer ever)
Bob Dylan (Hey Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me!)
Billy Joel (I like me some Piano Man.) :)

But I'll KO Billy in favor of The Beatles if no one else picks them, since frankly, they need to be in this.

So:

US:
Billy Joel
Bob Dylan

UK:

Europe:
Mozart
Puccini

World:
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
27 Jul 14 UTC
Group by genre. All of the best European acts, from Pink Floyd to Queen to The Beatles (to One Direction if you're one of those scumbags), come straight out of the UK.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Jul 14 UTC
Which genres, though? Classical and Rock are obvious...what would be the other two?
kanye west
sam cooke
vivaldi
the beatles
hip hop as a genre
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
27 Jul 14 UTC
Tchaikovsky
Led Zeppelin
David Bowie
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Jul 14 UTC
Grouping by region for now while bo_sox and others work out if a genre idea will work--

US:
Bob Dylan
Billy Joel
Kanye West
Sam Cooke

UK:
The Beatles

Europe:
Mozart
Puccini
Vivaldi (hooray!) :)

World:
*Crickets* lol...
i'm glad you approve of vivaldi, obi :)
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Jul 14 UTC
Before I add yours, Hellenic Riot, you get 4 nominations, that's three...do you want to add one more?
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
27 Jul 14 UTC
I suppose I'll throw in 'modern pop' and go Lady Gaga
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Jul 14 UTC
And I love Vivaldi, Socrates. :) Verdi, Vivaldi, Puccini, Scarlatti, and Mozart's Italian operas make Italy/Italian-language music probably my favorite overall in the Classical genre.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Jul 14 UTC
US:
Bob Dylan
Billy Joel
Kanye West
Sam Cooke
Lady Gaga

UK:
The Beatles
Led Zeppelin

Europe:
Mozart
Puccini
Vivaldi
Tchaikovsky

World:
...Hm...maybe we need to split up Europe to fill this area out, East and West?
CommanderByron (801 D(S))
27 Jul 14 UTC
Possibly work the genre idea like this:
Classical / Opera
Rock / Alternative
Pop / Hip Hop / R and B
Blues / Jazz
Country
Other
ghug (5068 D(B))
27 Jul 14 UTC
Hold up, obi. This format is terrible. It's gonna be inherently biased towards music from outside of the US and UK in the earlier rounds because people are going to know the US/UK bands better.

I think it would be better to let people nominate until we have 64 and then group by genre.
CommanderByron (801 D(S))
27 Jul 14 UTC
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I personally nominate
U.S
Kurt Cobain
Marshall Mathers
I agree with ghug. We should probably group by genre, but that may result in more US and UK bands. Also I would like to nominate 30 Seconds to Mars (American rock band) in this tournament.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
27 Jul 14 UTC
New rock (alternative/post-grunge groups - Pearl Jam, Green Day, Foo Fighters)
Old rock (60s/70s, counterculture ... Beatles, Rolling Stones, Nirvana, Queen, etc.)
Classical/Opera
Hip Hop
Country
Instrumental/Orchestral

A few others would be good so that there are 8 groups, 8 nominations, 64.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Jul 14 UTC
OK, so let's settle the grouping thing first...

Do we want fewer, larger groups (4x16) or something like bo_sox's 8x8 plan?
pangloss (363 D)
27 Jul 14 UTC
People are throwing out composers, but are we not evaluating performers? To be sure, Mozart performed some of his pieces, but I imagine the discussion will eventually become a debate over his contributions in the field of composition. Further, when it comes to conductors, how are we going to control for the orchestras/other ensembles that they would have conducted?

Also you can't compare across genres. That's just silly.
ghug (5068 D(B))
27 Jul 14 UTC
I think everyone should nominate and list a genre with their nominations and then we should group afterwards. Some genres are going to have more than others.

I nominate:
The Mountain Goats
The White Stripes
The Decemberists
Big Star
We should probably restrict the number a person can nominate. I would also consider Breaking Benjamin be added.
semck83 (229 D(B))
27 Jul 14 UTC
I agree with ghug's analysis.

Also, I nominate

Beethoven
The Beatles
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Brahms
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
27 Jul 14 UTC
Classic Rock (60s/70s/80s)
Modern Rock
Old Pop
Modern Pop
Classical/Opera (Orchestral can be folded into here)
Hip Hop
Rap
Country
Jazz/Blues?
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
27 Jul 14 UTC
I nominate me, I'm pretty damn good.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Jul 14 UTC
For now I'll just keep track of nominations and get rid of the groups until we decide how we want to do that...

Bob Dylan
Billy Joel
Kanye West
Sam Cooke
Lady Gaga
The Beatles
Led Zeppelin
Mozart
Puccini
Vivaldi
Tchaikovsky
Kurt Cobain (Cobain himself, or Nirvana?)
Marshall Mathers
30 Seconds to Mars
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
27 Jul 14 UTC
Need to bring that down to 8, HR. I'd combine pop since it's smaller on the whole than rock, especially among the group of voters we tend to have on this site.
Yakoska (496 D)
27 Jul 14 UTC
Israel Kamakawiwo'ole
Straight No Chaser
Pink Flyod
JRR Tolkien... what? "Dirty Dishes Dirty Plates... That's what Bilbo Baggins Hates?" "Under the Misty Mountains" No? Oh fine... he'd probably win in a landslide anyway... How about that Beethoven guy then.

obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Jul 14 UTC
Bob Dylan
Billy Joel
Kanye West
Sam Cooke
Lady Gaga
The Beatles
Led Zeppelin
Mozart
Puccini
Vivaldi
Tchaikovsky
Kurt Cobain (Cobain himself, or Nirvana?)
Marshall Mathers
30 Seconds to Mars
The Mountain Goats
The White Stripes
The Decemberists
Big Star
Breaking Benjamin
Beethoven
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Brahms
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
27 Jul 14 UTC
Yeah, seems I lost my ability to count, bo. Time to hide under a rock.
2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
27 Jul 14 UTC
Round 1: Mozart vs. 30 Seconds to Mars WHO YA GOT?!

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