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redhouse1938 (429 D)
06 Nov 13 UTC
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This is not an apology or a goodbye. This is a statement.
I love the shit here in the forum. I'm almost done with school, so after this post, I am asking goldfinger to amplify me for a period of no less than one year. I feel after all my contributions my posts here deserve to be printed in fontsize+5 (not Arial). I'll use the time to teach you all on conservative values.
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Dharmaton (2398 D)
06 Nov 13 UTC
A powerful new website - a pics-opolis
www.seen.co
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hafneck1 (0 DX)
06 Nov 13 UTC
boobs
Seriously though
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
06 Nov 13 UTC
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Adobe data theft exposes widespread problem of weak passwords
Apparently the most popular password among Adobe users was "123456" - (LINK: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24821528)

What's YOUR WebDip password? Do you have a more secure one than that? Post it here and we'll see if the forum agrees!
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SYnapse (0 DX)
06 Nov 13 UTC
Donator Badge
Woo I'm now a first class citizen!

Please consider donating to the site, if you haven't already. The superiority of the badge is definitely worth it.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
06 Nov 13 UTC
Professional Study on Gun Laws
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2013/11/study-americans-safe-from-gun-violence-except-in-schools-malls-airports-movie-theatres-workplaces-st.html
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
30 Jun 13 UTC
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Columbia Gorge Marathon Countdown
I'm going to take a break from playing diplomacy until after my first marathon on October 27th. I've never been a runner, and it's been suggested to share the journey with others, to help be accountable and motivated...
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hecks (164 D)
06 Nov 13 UTC
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This is not a statement. It's a state-mint.
http://www.usmint.gov/mint_Programs/50sq_program/
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President Eden (2750 D)
30 Oct 13 UTC
Why do white girls like yoga so much?
As above below
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tendmote (100 D(B))
06 Nov 13 UTC
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This is an insult, and a hello. This is a question.
Hello you, how do you like your "Ghost Rating" now, clown?
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Hydro Globus (100 D)
06 Nov 13 UTC
This is not an apology or a goodbye. This!
Is!
Sparta!
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
05 Nov 13 UTC
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Western Spring (as opposed to Arab Spring)
How long until we really start to get rid of our own tyrants?

Just curious what people think and all... Also trying to have some compassion for the Arabs because right now it's just one of those things happening somewhere in the east for me... It would come much closer if I see what this would mean in the west I suppose... Discuss.
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dipplayer2004 (1110 D)
06 Nov 13 UTC
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Great Debate
Other threads are old and locked. Just want to keep this out there. Maybe someday we will see something.
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krellin (80 DX)
06 Nov 13 UTC
Draug-in-Abstnetia Committee
Seeking Nomination for the Draug-In-Abstentia Committee -- a group of dedicated volunteers who will agree to carry forth in memory of Draug. They will bring his wisdom to the threads through PM, so that Draug's presence will not be missed.

I nominate YJ as First on Committee.
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Dharmaton (2398 D)
06 Nov 13 UTC
As if radiation wasn't enough...
www.vice.com/the-vice-guide-to-travel/the-japanese-love-industry
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
04 Nov 13 UTC
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Can I call bullshit?
regarding my contributions to the bible reading thread:

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redhouse1938 (429 D)
28 Oct 13 UTC
Things I don't like about Arial
1) numbers are not evenly spaced, which would make
2) some Greek letters are indistinguishable from latin
3) the small letter L and capital i are indistinguishable
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Dharmaton (2398 D)
01 Nov 13 UTC
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Word Association Game, take 6
(Rules restated: type in one word linking up with the last person's entry thus creating a long funny sentence.)
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Celticfox (100 D(B))
05 Nov 13 UTC
Call of Duty: Ghost
Released today. Anyone else pick it up or planning to?
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
01 Nov 13 UTC
The Future of Western Armed Forces
In Holland, the downward economic spiral has led to massive cuts in defense. I wonder if that shouldn't be preceded by a thorough and nation-wide conversation about this topic, that I believe many countries are currently dealing with. In this thread, we discuss the future of the armed forces.
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Orka (785 D)
01 Nov 13 UTC
There should always be armed forces. They are precautionary tools to prevent wars. The unfortunate part is, humans are greedy, thus using their greatest asset, people, to take over other people to enhance their people. Otherwise, there would be peace with minimal amounts of people in the armed forces.
But what I find interesting is why holland is ditching their military? Is war now a thing of the past because of consequences?
In short, it depends upon what type of war you're talking about. Wars of conquest are pretty much over for the near future, because only the United States has the logistics and supply chain capacity to occupy another nation. If every nation in the world were to combine their forces they would still be hard pressed to occupy a sizeable nation without the US because they simply don't have the lift capacity.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
01 Nov 13 UTC
Holland is ditching its military since 1945, because Germany is no longer a threat, since 1948, because it became a part of NATO, since 1992 because the Soviet Union ceased to exist and since a couple of years because we ran out of money. That said, I think that's all no problem, if we have some kind of plan, which we ehm... don't.

"In short, it depends upon what type of war you're talking about. Wars of conquest are pretty much over for the near future, because only the United States has the logistics and supply chain capacity to occupy another nation."
No it's not. Great Britain could probably occupy Ireland. Ireland could occupy Iceland. Iceland could occupy the Faroer Islands. Small countries can still very well occupy smaller countries.
Putin33 (111 D)
01 Nov 13 UTC
The Germans occupied western Europe with relatively few forces. They didn't put up much of a fight. The secret is occupying a wealthy country that is poorly defended, because they will gladly collaborate because they are risk averse. Poor countries are harder to occupy, because the people have little to lose.

War isn't a thing of the past but wars in Europe might be. And why would Holland care about anywhere except Europe? No need when they have NATO to foot the bill.
Octavious (2701 D)
01 Nov 13 UTC
For an overseas war that is true, however there are plenty of nations out their who have the ability to occupy a neighbour, where the logistics are far easier to manage.

Tolstoy (1962 D)
01 Nov 13 UTC
"Is war now a thing of the past because of consequences?"

I think war has largely (but not entirely) become a thing of the past for developed countries due to extensive ties of trade and corporate ownership. So many big American corporations have plants in Mexico that they would pull out all the stops to prevent any possibility of war between Mexico and America impossible, for instance.

Old-fashioned wars will only come if the existing structures of corporate ownership break down or if someone (Saddam Hussein, for example) tries to upset the global economic apple cart, but those kinds of problems can usually be dealt with without need for war.
Putin33 (111 D)
01 Nov 13 UTC
I imagine the only way war returns to Europe is if Salafists take over a country or Turkey decides Bulgaria is looking at it the wrong way.
Octavious (2701 D)
01 Nov 13 UTC
@ Putin

Couldn't disagree more. Poor countries are far easier to occupy as the people a generally so pissed off with their own rulers that they see exchanging them with a new bunch as no real hardship. Poor left wing countries tend to be harder nuts to crack in this regard, as they generally have a perception of being in it together.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
01 Nov 13 UTC
I think the armed forces need to be split into two. One; a large body of conscripted soldiers and reservists, in case shit really hits the fan one day. Two; a small body of highly trained specialists, marines, SEALs, commandos, pilots etc.
Draugnar (0 DX)
01 Nov 13 UTC
Sorry, but no conscription in this country. The draft was outlawed and if they actually tried to re-enact it using the selective service roles, there would be a rebellion.
Putin33 (111 D)
01 Nov 13 UTC
All I know is the Soviet occupations of the Baltics and the German occupation of portions of western Europe were relatively bloodless affairs. Bohemia was the richest region of eastern Europe and it fell to the Germans without even lifting a finger. I don't think the Bessarabians put up much of a fight when the Russians moved in. The Albanians fell in days to the Italians while the impoverished Ethiopians put up more of a fight. Britain also seemed to have a harder time in the portions of its Empire that were poorer relative to the richer (poorer, more conservative Indian states seemed to have a bigger problem with British rule than the richer ones too). Not sure about the French since all of their colonies seemed to be poor. Spain's most loyal colony was the relatively prosperous Cuba.





Gunfighter06 (224 D)
01 Nov 13 UTC
@ Draugnar

Even if a second Pearl Harbor happened and we were really ripshit pissed off at someone? The draft could still happen, and happen successfully.
Draugnar (0 DX)
01 Nov 13 UTC
It didn't happen after 9/11. Instead they enacted "stop-loss". It would take an act of Congress to reactivate the draft and Congress ain't got the balls to even think about it.
firewok0 (476 D)
02 Nov 13 UTC
My dear Draugnar, I beg to differ.
There are 437 males serving in the 113th Congress, and, omitting the odd missing testicle, 874 testes representing our nation, while only 196 ovaries do. I might be presumptuous in assuming that Draugnar thinks that 874 testes are enough testes to reactivate the draft, but two North Korean ones at a time have done that for quite some time.
ILN (100 D)
02 Nov 13 UTC
@putin, besserabians didn't put on a fight? I myself have besserabian roots and my grandma is from there, and I can tell you, the besserabians did put up a fight, and those that did, including thousands of those who submitted were brutally murdered in the woods by Russians with hidden machine guns.
ILN (100 D)
02 Nov 13 UTC
So don't call them "bloodless affairs" you ass.
I actually find both Putin and Octavious convincing on the point, and I'm not sure which would be the correct take.
Gunfighter06 (224 D)
02 Nov 13 UTC
@ Draugnar

We didn't need a draft for that particular war, but if the American people were angry enough and we needed a veritable fuck-ton of new personnel, public opinion would beg Congress to reinstate the draft.
Putin33 (111 D)
02 Nov 13 UTC
Where was this fight? The Soviets gave an ultimatum for Romanian evacuation and the Romanians promptly evacuated from Bessarabia, even though they had 2 million troops under arms.
Orka (785 D)
02 Nov 13 UTC
Just because the troops left doesn't mean there isn't a fight.
Iraq? Poland? Russia? France? Look at their resistance. I don't know about Bessarabia, in fact I never knew it existed till now.
Speaking of the draft, it could very well happen in a war, just that it would have to be a very large scale war. A Vietnam draft will never be implemented again.
Putin33 (111 D)
02 Nov 13 UTC
Great, then where was the Iraq style insurgency in Bessarabia from 1940-1941, or 1944-1990?

And I'm sorry but France is not a good example of fighting in the face of occupation.
Orka (785 D)
02 Nov 13 UTC
Say what? France is a great example. They tied down lots of German troops away from the coast. They gave a lot of information to the allies. They did better than the Dutch, Danish, and maybe the Belgians.
And yet again, I'm learning about Bessarabia.
Putin33 (111 D)
02 Nov 13 UTC
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I don't think the US can win wars while relying on reservists and National Guardsmen, and continually raising the age limit of enlistment. A draft is likely in the event of another large-scale mission.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
02 Nov 13 UTC
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Fantastic, let's return to a draft so that we can throw away another generation forced to fight wars for old people sitting behind their desks in the capitol. Who in the world would "beg" for that? I don't think I've ever met someone from the United States that supports the draft.

If there is actually a draft I'd rather just give the middle finger to the SS than sign up. If I'm going to join the armed forces (which I might, but not for the USA), I'll be doing it on my own accord.
Draugnar (0 DX)
02 Nov 13 UTC
Get real. There are plenty of active duty non-reserves in the armed forces.
Draugnar (0 DX)
02 Nov 13 UTC
@firewok - It isn't the number of balls. It's the size and fortitude and shriveled up old lawyer balls kept in a jar by their wives have neither the collective size nor strength to get the job done.
ILN (100 D)
02 Nov 13 UTC
@putin, you're forgetting that Romania's ally, Germany was already losing the war, and there was a coup by the prince to dispose of Antonescu who would have ordered the troops to stay and fight. You can't compare that to the early conquests by Germany, which really were bloodless with little to no opposition. Also, armed forces aren't the only ones to put up a fight, peasants are usually the ones to do so, its usually the nobles that give in.
Putin33 (111 D)
02 Nov 13 UTC
Germany required few administrators in occupied France. Very few Frenchmen joined the resistance. A greater number joined the Milice - anti-partisan paramilitary. Less than 20% of the French army joined De Gaulle in exile in Britain. To the extent there was any armed resistance in France it was at the end of the war, the last 18 months. Most of what counted for 'resistance' was acts of sabotage or intelligence gathering.
ILN (100 D)
02 Nov 13 UTC
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But.......they're French....waving white flags is like a national pastime or something.
Putin33 (111 D)
02 Nov 13 UTC
"@putin, you're forgetting that Romania's ally, Germany was already losing the war, and there was a coup by the prince to dispose of Antonescu who would have ordered the troops to stay and fight."

Germany was most certainly not losing the war in the summer of 1940. If you mean Romania's previous ally - France - had lost then yes you're correct.

It really doesn't matter what the reasons were for not fighting, the fact is they didn't fight.

And I'm waiting on details of any kind of significant and sustained Bessarabian insurgency.

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Bob Genghiskhan (1233 D)
04 Nov 13 UTC
Anyone for a slow gunboat?
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milestailsprower (614 D(B))
05 Nov 13 UTC
A slow game of sorts
I am in college and I want moar Diplomacy in mai lyfeeee.
I just need it to be slow and lackadaisical and take forever though so I can not die from homework.
Any takers? http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=128681
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
03 Nov 13 UTC
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Guess the Blankflag
Guess which name Blankflag will return with next. Winner gets a special prize.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
05 Nov 13 UTC
Death to the peace makers......
Recently there was a call for peace talks from the leader of the Pakistan Taliban. You would think Western leaders would sit up and pay attention ...... they did, this was their response below
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/10423594/Pakistan-Taliban-appoints-interim-leader-following-death-of-Hakimullah-Mehsud.html
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Andrew Wiggin (157 D)
05 Nov 13 UTC
Affordable gaming laptop
Any tech-savvy diplomats here?
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JECE (1248 D)
25 Oct 13 UTC
The krellin songbook
Need I say more?
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Draugnar (0 DX)
04 Nov 13 UTC
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We should have a triple secret probationary silence on the site.
While the subject is light hearted Animal House sounding, I mean it when I say it. If the system had a way to silence forum posters posts without indicating to them they were silenced (kind of a universal mute) then people like blankflag could be secretly silenced and the good boys and girls of the forum wouldn't have to put up with him trying to come back in under a different name.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
04 Nov 13 UTC
Ressurection biology
Do we have a moral duty to bring back species we drove to extinction, if possible (as discussed here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_3037720009&feature=iv&src_vid=pwNMvUXTgDY&v=y-0mT4oQH3o )
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learys (0 DX)
04 Nov 13 UTC
modern artistic chandelier ceiling light onsale
Light giving diodes (LEDs) will present a more and more serious risk to light demand in a number of programs. Typically, their high price has restricted utilization in traditional lighting applications;

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wholesale lights at http://www.lightsuperdeal.com
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
01 Nov 13 UTC
NFL Pick 'em: Week 9--Who's Prime for a Trick, Who's Due for a Treat?
If the playoffs were to start today, the Cowboys would be due to play the Niners (yet again) and the Packers would play the Lions in the NFC Wild Card, Saints and Seahawks with byes, while in the AFC, the Colts and Broncos would match-up again and the Patriots would play the Jets (!) as the Bengals (!) and Chiefs (!!!) enjoyed byes. Such is the way the first half has shaken out...so, at the halfway point, Week 9--PICK 'EM!
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