Cue the "if the teachers had handguns" bullshit justification.

The school was a gun-free zone. We should pass a law making it illegal to break the law.

cue the Liberal, "yes, no laws proposed would have prevented this, but we should pass these laws anyway and take guns away from law-abiding citizens"

How about this – how about all your raging hypocrites who are going to work up a few faux tears about this shut the hell up for about 1 or 2 weeks. After that time, if you still have a hard-on for new gun grabbing laws, etc, then *get off your lazy libertard ass* and go do something about it…write a letter to a Congressman, join an activist organization, etc. Then come back and tell us what you did. Otherwise, this goes something like this: Libtard comes on here and tell anyone with a different viewpoint on guns how immoral and stupid they are, you say, “If we could save just one life” (which is bullshit, because you refuse to give up your freedoms elsewhere when it’s important to YOU…)..and you blather on and work up your tears for a few days until the news cycle passes and then you **forget** the issue, move on and never speak up it again until the next shooting.

Borrrrrrr-ing…

"We should pass a law making it illegal to break the law."

Put a death penalty on suicide while you're at it.

AAAAAAAA HA HA HA HA HA. Nope. No problem here, right kkkrellin?

There is no hope left for this god forsaken country. Get out while you can.

Would you rather move to Mogadishu or Reno? Now that would be a tough call...

If you want to make school shootings impossible you need to repeal the Second Amendment. This story, which bo_sox48 strangely didn't link to, happened because a child stole a handgun from his parents. No law could stop that. No amount of background checks or waiting periods can stop a person who steals a gun from a (presumably) law-abiding citizen legitimately exercising their constitutional right.

As long as we have a Second Amendment guaranteeing an individual right to bear arms and a society that lets people become as troubled as these shooters all inevitably are things like this will happen.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/21/justice/nevada-middle-school-shooting/

@ Invictus: "If you want to make school shootings impossible you need to repeal the Second Amendment."

You make a fine argument for repealing the outdated Second Amendment, Invictus. I quite agree with you.

Reno, and honestly it isn't a tough call at all.

I think I catch the facetiousness, but I support the Second Amendment. I've actually joined the NRA so I can put the memorabilia in my front window at the house I live in now. Not quite as nice of a neighborhood as I thought. Don't really have the money for the real thing, however. Hope none of the robbers near me play WebDip.

Here's what we do to solve this gun problem:

1.) Background checks
2.) Gun registry (not Carter's system)
3.) PARENTING
4.) Strict licensing procedure

See, gun nuts, I didn't say anything about taking your beloved weapons away!

@Invictus ... my bad, I didn't have a link to it, I just saw the "breaking news" tagline on Yahoo which didn't link anywhere yet.

Parenting! Why didn't we think of that sooner!

Special guide to parenting:

• Be friendly and encouraging but also stern enough to push your child in the right direction.
• Adequately service your child until they are old enough to provide for themselves but teach them how to provide for themselves prior to then so that they are ready when the time comes.
• Make sure they sleep enough and eat vegetables.
• DON'T LET THEM STEAL YOUR GUN.

Hope that helps!

How would any of those things (besides maybe parenting) have prevented this shooting? All that would happen is that responsible gun owners would have a still more difficult time exercising their constitutional right while absolutely nothing is done to stop repeats of this tragedy.

He stole the gun from his parents, who, let's assume, followed the law and were perfectly entitled to own a gun. How would any law stop a situation like this?

@Invictus Are the parents legally responsible for any deaths cause by their child atm? No sure on how the law works in cases like this.

"DON'T LET THEM STEAL YOUR GUN."

Obviously parent should do everything possible to keep their guns safe. But parents are only human. As long as we have a Second Amendment guaranteeing our right to bear arms things like this will happen.

The solution isn't taking away that right or imposing still more burdens on responsible, legal gun owners. It's making sure as few people as possible reach the point where they decide to bring weapons to school and kill the people there. And that's just dealing with the school shooting issue. If we wanted to reduce gun deaths as a whole we'd find a way for young men in the inner cities to make a living unrelated to organized crime and the drug trade. But instead we float pleasant-sounding buzz-words like "background check" for a few days and then go right back to business as usual.

"Are the parents legally responsible for any deaths cause by their child atm? No sure on how the law works in cases like this."

I really don't know. It would depend on the situation and state law, I assume.

Out of curiosity, what do people think would happen if this killer couldn't get his hands on a gun? Would he not have killed anyone, or would he have gone to one of the hundreds of sites showing people how to make bombs with household items?

I don't really know, but it is something to think about.

In Israel teachers can carry weapons to protect school children, USA should do the same.

Because there are no crazy teachers...

In Israel they don't have civil marriage, USA should do the same. In Israel there's mandatory military service, USA should do the same. In Israel there's no constitution, USA should do the same. In Israel the majority religion's symbol is on the flag, USA should do the same.

Just because Israel does it doesn't mean America ought to.

Why is it that libtards always come up with the assumption that humans are naturally evil, and that we need laws to keep them "in place"? Crazy teachers won't get hired, simple as that, i mean teachers ought to be more closely examined anyways, its something long over due, luckily for teachers, they can hide behind the curtain of teachers unions.

holy shit two of you jump on me, where did you get the idea that i support EVERYTHING ISRAELI.

ILN only in certain states. I know that in Illinois you can be fired and teachers get reviewed for performance every 2-3 years. At least the teachers in the school district I live in and the one next to it.

@Invictus ... "How would any of those things (besides maybe parenting) have prevented this shooting?"

The issue isn't *this shooting.* The issue is shootings in general. This one is just going to reopen the Holmes/Lanza/Cho debate as to who should have a gun and who shouldn't. Having a gun should be a privilege, not a birthright for American citizens. There are plenty of crazy people among us that shouldn't have the right to a gun. These parents are on that list.

"He stole the gun from his parents, who, let's assume, followed the law and were perfectly entitled to own a gun. How would any law stop a situation like this?"

Would keep irresponsible parents from owning a gun.

"Obviously parent should do everything possible to keep their guns safe. But parents are only human."

Are you seriously defending the parents? They let their middle school kid get their gun. How is that defensible? They ought to be charged in the two deaths along with their child for neglect and potentially manslaughter because it is THEIR FAULT.

"The solution isn't taking away that right or imposing still more burdens on responsible, legal gun owners."

Sure it is. That ensures that the people that can have a gun are responsible with them because they get past the tests and the inspections and whatnot. They know how to own a gun.

"It's making sure as few people as possible reach the point where they decide to bring weapons to school and kill the people there."

Don't background checks and strict licensing regulations cover that? The rest of your post regarding a crackdown on gang violence I can largely agree with.

@Abge ... "Out of curiosity, what do people think would happen if this killer couldn't get his hands on a gun? Would he not have killed anyone, or would he have gone to one of the hundreds of sites showing people how to make bombs with household items?"

Given the materials, I could construct a dirty bomb, and that's a scary thought (not because it's me, but because it's a dirty bomb, arguably the most effective terrorist weapon outside of jumbo jets). Whether I could construct one that actually detonates correctly or not is irrelevant, but that's just something that we have to live with as far as I'm concerned because there's not a thing we can do.

@ILN .. "In Israel teachers can carry weapons to protect school children, USA should do the same."

Israel is not the United States (as much as they try to be). Regardless of civil issues that we all know about, terrorism is practically a daily reality in some regions. Not here, though we are gradually getting fed more and more propaganda to point us in that direction.

Fertilizer bombs are easily made with readily available materials and very reliable. Doesn't have to be a dirty bomb unless you literally mean dirt as in fertilizer. And yes. It is our right to own a weapon. The amendment says the right shall not be abridged, not the privilege.

@Draug ... please, please, please, you and everyone else, stop acting like I want to take away your gun. You just can't give them to anyone. They are deadly weapons. People don't get cars, which are deadly weapons, if they have bad vision. People shouldn't get a gun if they have no personal responsibility or any other requirement for safely owning a weapon. Just like a car. There is really no argument to it.