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johnfoxarmy (100 D)
19 Jan 10 UTC
LIVEGAME!!!!!!!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=19449
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moses (124 D)
19 Jan 10 UTC
new live game!
live game starting in a little while
join up if youre feeling it
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=19448
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johnfoxarmy (100 D)
19 Jan 10 UTC
LIVE FIVE MIN TURNS!!!!!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=19447
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superman98 (118 D)
15 Jan 10 UTC
Favorite Country to play as?
I was wondering what your favorite country(s) to play as are. More Details inside.
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msmth82 (579 D)
17 Jan 10 UTC
How are the units sorted in the orders list?
They appear to be sorted by the their age, descending.
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denis (864 D)
14 Jan 10 UTC
So the United STATES of America...
Technically 50 different countries... Or at least that was the original idea.
Do you treat your state as a country? What do you think is good or bad about this system ( 50 differeent mini govermentd under one super goverment)?
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warsprite (152 D)
15 Jan 10 UTC
I'd like to point out th US has only 46 States. The other 4 are Commonwealths. ;)
warsprite (152 D)
15 Jan 10 UTC
denis That is not how you worded it.
denis (864 D)
15 Jan 10 UTC
I really don't care I'm just a happy with this... :)
orathaic (1009 D(B))
15 Jan 10 UTC
50 states 1 country.
the UK equals 4 countries (England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland) but is 1 state.
Ireland is an island broken up into two countries, the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. Britian is an island broken up into three - Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

in most places the idea of a Nation-State and a Country are the thing - in some places it gets more complicated.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
15 Jan 10 UTC
sorry, Britian is Wales, Scotland and England... silly typo.
WhiteSammy (100 D)
15 Jan 10 UTC
to be completely honest....given the size of the US states(especially Alaska, California, and Texas) i think it would suprise people that have not seen/cant comprehend a comparison of the states vs. european nations that the some of the states are not their own countries.

http://goeurope.about.com/od/europeanmaps/l/bl-country-size-comparison-map.htm

i think the only thing that really holds the states together outside of the government and peer-pressure/legality is the dependence on the other states. given the vast variations in climate and access to the oceans, a landlocked state like Kansas wouldnt be able to survive the massive taxes it would have to pay in order to ship its corn and other agricultural products.
Rule Britannia (737 D)
15 Jan 10 UTC
i guarantee you that people in Europe do not think of themselves as anything like a country. In the U.S.A, people think of themselves as American, and if they go from Texas to Alabama, they aren't in what seems like a foreign country. I France, I realise I'm in a country full of foreigners.
I must say one of the things I hate the most is Americans reffering to Europe as a country. I have my own country! I'm not part of sum shit, "European" super state. The U.k has a hell of a lot more in common woth the rest of the Anglo-Saxon world, for obvious reasons, than it does "Europe".
Referring to Europe as being a nation is like calling the commonwealth a country.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
15 Jan 10 UTC
@Rule Britannia: i'd give you a +1 but you haven't stated which country is yours :P
are you english by any chance?
tilMletokill (100 D)
15 Jan 10 UTC
Actually Texas was a Country YEA!!!! wish we could secede we have one of the best economys of all the United States
Draugnar (0 DX)
15 Jan 10 UTC
@joshbeaudette

"I completely agree with everything you stated other than the part about states being allowed to have official religions. That would give preference to that particular religion over the others, which is why there is a separation between any specific church and "state". "

The First Amendment to the US Constitution explicitly forbids the U.S. federal government from enacting any law respecting a religious establishment, and thus forbids either designating an official church for the United States, or interfering with State and local official churches — which were common when the First Amendment was enacted. It did not prevent state governments from establishing official churches. Connecticut continued to do so until it replaced its colonial Charter with the Connecticut Constitution of 1818; Massachusetts retained an establishment of religion in general until 1833. (The Massachusetts system required every man to belong to some church, and pay taxes towards it; while it was formally neutral between denominations, in practice the indifferent would be counted as belonging to the majority denomination, and in some cases religious minorities had trouble being recognized at all.)

The Fourteenth Amendment to the US Constitution, ratified in 1868, makes no mention of religious establishment, but forbids the states to "abridge the privileges or immunities" of U.S. citizens, or to "deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law". In the 1947 case of Everson v. Board of Education, the United States Supreme Court held that this later provision incorporates the First Amendment's Establishment Clause as applying to the States, and thereby prohibits state and local religious establishments. The exact boundaries of this prohibition are still disputed, and are a frequent source of cases before the US Supreme Court — especially as the Court must now balance, on a state (similar, but not equivalent to province) level, the First Amendment prohibitions on government establishment of official religions with the First Amendment prohibitions on government interference with the free exercise of religion.

All current U.S. state constitutions include guarantees of religious liberty parallel to the First Amendment, but eight (Arkansas, Maryland, Massachusetts, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas) also contain clauses that prohibit atheists from holding public office. However, these clauses have been held by the United States Supreme Court to be unenforceable in the 1961 case of Torcaso v. Watkins, where the court ruled unanimously that such clauses constituted a religious test incompatible with the religious test prohibition in Article 6 Section 3 of the United States Constitution.

In short, the states themselves have chosen to mirror the US Constitution, but the US Constitution does not prohibit the establishment of an official state religion as it would never have been ratified by a number of states at the time had it done so.
akilies (861 D)
15 Jan 10 UTC
you only have one of the best economies because of the other states, the economy wouldn't work without texas, and texas wouldn't work without the system of the other states.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
15 Jan 10 UTC
and you'd all be ebtter off in a trade and labour union with mexico and canada!
BBanner (203 D)
15 Jan 10 UTC
Our economy isn't really that good....not anymore, anyway.
akilies (861 D)
15 Jan 10 UTC
I credit that to Greenspan
Rule Britannia (737 D)
15 Jan 10 UTC
@orathaic, i am indeed from the U.K. Didn't that come up on the communism thread?
johnfoxarmy (100 D)
15 Jan 10 UTC
if we let mexico and canada into a trade union it would water down our own economy with cheap labor while they improved...we have nafta already thats enough
orathaic (1009 D(B))
15 Jan 10 UTC
My question wasn't what State you are from, it was what country. (which is what this 50 states = 1 country thread was kinda about i think... i was just trying to highlight how things aren't simple 1 country does not alway mean 1 nation and 1 state...)
orathaic (1009 D(B))
15 Jan 10 UTC
sorry that was @ RB

:Johnfoxarmy: things aren't that simple; your(US) factories could produce cheaper goods by employing low wage workers (this is what i meant by labour union) thus they would be able to export goods and improve the US import/export ratio - increasing the value of the dollar overseas (which is especially important when competing for production with China)

no tarrifs would mean cheaper US prodced goods available in Mexio which would improve their economies (and reduce your tax take) - but you may have this with NAFTA already. Money sent home by mexican workers would be spent on whatever goods are available on the North American market (which would include US produced goods) thus increasing demand. Meanwhile direct competition of Mexican and Canadian companies would force inefficient US companies out of bussiness.

End result a fitter US economy, trading better on the world scale...
Rule Britannia (737 D)
15 Jan 10 UTC
oh right, i see, yeah, England.
Go Wales! (Sorry, but I had to acknowledge my Welsh heritage)

Anyway, like I said before, the federal government was never meant to have even close to this much power. I'll bet you any amount of money that all of the Founding Fathers are rolling around in their sacred graves.
ottovanbis (150 DX)
16 Jan 10 UTC
TMW your evaluation of the role of the federal government by said founding fathers is that of a fifth grader at best. you are wrong. do you know what a federalist is? how about a tertium quid? hamilton had some big ideas about government helping with legislation to boost the economy towards manufacturing and industry when necessary, do some reading please. i bet you think these founding fathers were christians too who would abhor gay marriage... (though they were by and large deists who disliked superstition, as they were men of reason influenced more by the enlightenment than the great awakening). sorry if i sound like i'm trolling, bur when in the course of human events it becomes necessary for me to correct your most grievous errors of historical interpretation, a decent respect to the people of this forum requires that i should go off on a tangent.
JECE (1322 D)
19 Jan 10 UTC
Bump


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idealist (680 D)
15 Jan 10 UTC
Haiti
I hope many of you have heard about the devastating news from Haiti, where millions of Haitians lost their lives to an earthquake happened merely last weekend.
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Crazyter (1335 D(G))
18 Jan 10 UTC
Win versus Draw AKA When to Stab
I have a high Draw rate and a low Win rate. Looking to do something about that. Seeking advice.
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bbdaniels (461 D(B))
18 Jan 10 UTC
A Possible Solution to the Pause Problem
After reading a number of complaints about the problem of the pause, I have one suggestion to offer: each pause lasts as long a a phase length would.
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Jefe (100 D(S))
18 Jan 10 UTC
Live and Private (Password) Games
Is it a good idea to give Live and Private (Password) games their own tabs instead of being grouped with the new games? Recently I am seeing more of these games than anything else, and it would be nicer to see just the games I can actually play.
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Puddle (428 D)
18 Jan 10 UTC
Help?
Vista is screwing me over, firefox may be helping it do so, any one who could help me?
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jeromeblack (129 D)
19 Jan 10 UTC
Live Game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=19440

Join Now Starts in 30 Minutes!
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flashman (2274 D(G))
17 Jan 10 UTC
Just found the camera I want and I cannot afford it.
Just thought I'd share my disappointment...
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
18 Jan 10 UTC
How do we teach Jesus's message without teaching about God
the question - 'how do we teach Jesus's message without teaching about God' - i feel it is a very important question to answer considering there are a number of atheists in our society - and secular freedoms gives us the right to raise our children a members of any religion or none.
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`ZaZaMaRaNDaBo` (1922 D)
18 Jan 10 UTC
Draugnar?
What are you doing in the League D4 game!
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
17 Jan 10 UTC
World Cup Pages Updated
http://www.tournaments.webdiplomacy.net/
>Teams Listed
>Groups Announced
We still need a 21st team before we can start this tournament....more inside...
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pi r round (0 DX)
18 Jan 10 UTC
Map question
why aren't Baltic sea and Skagarak connected? They are connected in real life.
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Mickie (394 D)
18 Jan 10 UTC
Live game in 30 minutes!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=19431
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superman98 (118 D)
18 Jan 10 UTC
Join this Live Game!!!
Here is a Live Game!!!!
gameID=19430
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
15 Jan 10 UTC
575 Buy-In Anonymous Game
Need three more: Cloud of Unknowing

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=18836
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
18 Jan 10 UTC
Leagues replacements (still) needed
Anyone not playing in the Leagues who wishes to do so, should email Xapi at xapi (dot) perez (at) gmail (dot) com.

There is at least one open position. (which i'm hoping will be filled soon)
(also i couldn't bump the other thread because it is locked)
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moses (124 D)
18 Jan 10 UTC
new live game!
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=19425
join up guys
its gonna be a hoot
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selkie (0 DX)
18 Jan 10 UTC
Live WTA
gameID=19423
need 1 more
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chad! (157 D)
18 Jan 10 UTC
Live Game!
all the people who were in awesome-9 join awesome-10, i'm pretty sure it will be...fun : http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=19419
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Soccerstudd12 (100 D)
18 Jan 10 UTC
how do you know
how do you know when the hell a game is supposed to start?
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checkmate (0 DX)
18 Jan 10 UTC
two more players
live game starting in 1 minute
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Sendler (418 D)
18 Jan 10 UTC
gunboat live
join http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=19410
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rlumley (0 DX)
17 Jan 10 UTC
Bug in world map.
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/map.php?gameID=18668&turn=4&mapType=large

I was able to order a convoy to Godthab (South Greenland) as Northwest Canada or whatever the heck I am (yellow). The convoy was not successful, but I never should have been able to order it in the first place.
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california (100 D)
18 Jan 10 UTC
Wait... whats wrong with the server
On my computer it says "The last process time was over 30 minutes ago (at 6:05 AM); the server is not processing games until the cause is found and games are given extra time"
if you understand this post whats wrong!!!
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jimgov (219 D(B))
17 Jan 10 UTC
Question about open games
I have been in many games in the past few weeks where a player or two (or three) went missing. Rarely has anyone jumped in and taken over the power. I was wondering, What are the percentages of a game getting a player to jump in after a country has gone CD?
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