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ag7433 (927 D(S))
14 Apr 09 UTC
Reminder: Buy Flowers
New Game. PPSC. 120pts. 24 hrs
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=10097

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tullman (579 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
quitters
I'm relatively new to the site so I'm sure this has been hashed out before but the competition is awful. In every game there are 2 or 3 who give up before they are eliminated and usually one who never puts in a move. Now I understand we all have lives and if someone has issues and they gotta go that's no problem but just quitting or never putting in orders? Certainly not in the spirit of the game.
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sean (3490 D(B))
15 Apr 09 UTC
thanks edi
if you want to get your friends involved in diplomacy a great intro video by edi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2ub5lqItoI
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jbalcorn (429 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
FAQ Questions
The FAQ could definitely be added to. As a new user, I've had some questions that were hard to find answers. What FAQ answers would you want to see?
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ronsilver (260 D)
15 Apr 09 UTC
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9947 / Multi
Could the admins pls check that russia / turkey are not one and the same player ?
They appear together online, play as one person and write public messages where they try to pretend that they are two
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
14 Apr 09 UTC
*snort*
I'd just like to say I love how people's assumptions are somehow supposed to constrain *my* actions..
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Ukla (390 D)
15 Apr 09 UTC
Minor Peeve
Could someone maybe fix that the edge of the in-game messaging system cuts off the last word or so once the scrolling takes effect?
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El_Perro_Artero (707 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
British Subconscious?
So, lately I've been finding myself replacing my -or's with -our's
I first noticed this when taking notes in my psychology class. I had repeatedly spelled "behaviour." I'm noticing the same thing with "colour"

What could be causing me to do such a thing?
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Maniac (189 D(B))
14 Apr 09 UTC
Whilst I think that annexing America would be jolly good fun, giving them our royal family would be viewed as cruel and unusaul punishment - whatever America has done, they don't deserve that.
trim101 (363 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
undemocratically elected idiots hmmmmmmm you sure they dont :p
Chrispminis (916 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
DJ, I'm pretty sure Canadians pronounce offence as aw-fence. Perhaps not, awwwwww-fence, but certainly not O-fence.
Chrispi, listen to an NHL broadcast sometime.
Ukla (390 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
Just throwing this out there, but there is a Canadian baseball team. So, either you Brits have just as much contempt for Canada as we do, or you don't consider Canada as outside our borders. Either way, I'm cool with it.
Hereward77 (930 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
There are several nations that play baseball aren't there? I think the point is that one or even several nations is a long way short of a 'World Series' :P
I think the World Series was named before there were any other nations playing organized ball on a serious level.
Ukla (390 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
You Brits are so adorable. It is called the World Series because everyone in the world who plays baseball aspires to United States Major League Baseball. There are less Americans in the MLB than in the MLS.
Why do you care about government or anything else, anyway? Brits just go wherever they please as if this whole world was theirs for their entertainment. I have met more Brits outside of England than I did when I was IN England. What amazes me most is that most of you are as poor as most of us, yet you still manage to travel everywhere. How is this possible?
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
We don't all travel, but because a greater proportion of us want to, a greater proportion do. (That more want to may be linked to awareness of the world to travel to).

Note that until recently going to the US to shop was actually a frugal option.
WhiteSammy (100 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
8. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you’re not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you’re not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist then you’re not grown up enough to handle a gun.

9. Therefore, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. A permit will be required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.


as much as you would like to think...
the gun ban in Great Britain has not helped your murder rate at all. basically all it does is allow people with guns(who plan to use them for their own selfish interests) more opportunities to take advantage of the law abiding citizens.


and if you dont believe me then here is a compilation of some insightful information...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2224728/posts
WhiteSammy (100 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
none-the-less, apparently my chances of being murdered are 1/20000 but im not sure if thats just for America or world wide
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
Erm... I'm sorry to say it, but if somebody is willing to shoot you, having a gun isn't going to do much good when you've been shot.
WhiteSammy (100 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
i just noticed that the website i gave isnt the original one and that it is lacking the sources list so...

http://gunowners.org/sk0703.htm
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
Also, that website gives some pretty dodgy information, I must say. The analysis isn't really very deep, is it? And they haven't tried to eliminate other factors that might have made a difference, have they?
WhiteSammy (100 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
Ghost...
that is true, people hell bent on committing crimes will always committ those crimes. gun bans only aid in helping the people on the fence with the mentality that when they go somewhere no one but the police would be able to stop them since no one will have a firearm.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
But make it more difficult for people to go and get the gun in the first place. In the UK, if you want to commit armed robbery, you don't actually need a gun, so even the victim is likely to be better off. Added to this is the fact that all too often people in countries with relaxed gun legislation have got a gun not licensed to them, but to, say a father, and then committed mass murder.
13. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips, and those
things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called “crisps.” Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with mayonnaise but with vinegar.

First person I see putting mayon on fries gets neck punched.

What was the line from Trainspotting? "I don't hate the English, they're just wankers. But we're ruled by wankers!"
Shrimpy (100 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
There was something like that letter to the americans on here a while back with a article from the Americans back to the British.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC

In the light of your dissatisfaction with the European Union, your bickering with European Governments (most notably the French) and the fact that you already almost speak our language and refuse to speak any other European languages, you are to be annexed as a commonwealth of America. Your state code will be GB. Zip codes will be assigned to replace your old postal codes. In keeping with the American tradition of avoiding big city capitals, your state capital will be Stratford-upon-Avon which is a lot prettier than London and far more cultural.

We believe the main reason why Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II does not fancy Utah is because it will turn her already sagging and dry skin into a rather hard leathery shell. Face it, people over the age of 80 just do not know what they are talking about 75% of the time. The Duke of Edinburgh, Prince Philip, is a prime example of this, and his son Prince Charles is fast following his example.

You will not care about the Queen anymore anyway, because there will no longer be a reigning monarch. You will now be citizens of a republic rather than royal subjects. The royals will henceforth be subject to taxation the same as any other citizens. The royal family will vacate Buckingham Palace, which will be converted into a museum. Its grand opening will be on Christmas day, when French President Nicolas Sarkozy will give a speech commemorating the anniversary of the crowning of William the Conqueror, an invader from France who conquered England.

To aid in your assimilation, the following rules are to be introduced with immediate effect:

1. Realize that language is an organic structure, and that you aren't always correct in your pronunciation or spelling. Let's use your "aluminium" example. Sir Humphrey Davy (an Englishman) invented the name "alumium" for the metal. However, in common usage the name evolved into "aluminum" to match the naming convention of other elements. In 1925 the United States decided to switch back to the original spelling and pronunciation of the word, at which point we dominated the aluminum industry.

However, we'd like to thank you for the Oxford English Dictionary. It's an interesting collection, considering that over 10,000 of the words in the original edition were submitted by a crazy American civil-war veteran called Dr. William Chester Minor.

The letter "U" will be removed from words such as "armour" and "neighbour". Skipping the letter "U" is not considered laziness on our part since the correct pronunciation of those words would be "ar-moo-er" and "nay-boo-er".

You will also end your love affair with the letter "S" and the suffix -ise will be replaced with the suffix -ize. (By the way, it is pronounced zee, not zed: the pronunciation "zee" actually comes from late 17th-century English dialect)

You also seem to pronounce words horribly wrong, even in your own language. Let’s take Edinburgh for example. That it is pronounced "Ed-in-burg", not "Ed-in-burra". Where does the -rra come from? If you wish to refer to it still as Edinburgh, we suggest you remove the last two letters and replace them with -ra.

Cockney rhyming slang will no longer be used, as it is an inefficient way to communicate with another. Say what you mean, there is no need to find another word that rhymes with the word you are trying to say.

2. Since you will switch to the American standard of spelling Microsoft will be notified on your behalf to discontinue the British language pack for the family of Office products.

3. Learn to distinguish the American and Canadian accents, and then we'll talk about the English and Australian accent issue. (Here’s a hint: If you hear the word "eh" while speaking to someone, this is a clear indication that they are Canadian. Example: Nice weather we’re having, eh?)

You will also have to learn Southern accents. Cops will no longer broadcast subtitles.

4. All titles of nobility will be abolished. You will no longer dub your famous actors or singers Sir or Dame, that's just ridiculous. How do you like the sound of Dame Madonna or Sir William Gates? No? We didn't think so.

5. If you want English actors cast as good guys, then make your own movies. Don't rely on us for your popular culture. We liked "Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels", "Trainspotting", and "The Full Monty". We've also heard good things about this "Billy Elliot". But one good movie a year doesn't exactly make a cultural powerhouse. Your greatest recent filmmaker was Stanley Kubrick, and he was an American. You will not be allowed to criticize Hollywood's cynical ploys to profit from unimaginative, clichéd movies until you promise to stop making James Bond sequels. Stop going on about Monty Python: it's been more than a quarter-century since the Meaning of Life, what have they done lately? A lot of the Flying Circus is quite dated and not even funny anymore, and their recent stage production was nothing but the type of sad basking in past glory that we expect from some old washup like Paul McCartney.

In order to make life easier for your rock and roll musicians, we will build a geriatric home and clinic attached to London's O2 arena so that they won't have to travel far from home for gigs.

We will agree to ban Mel Gibson's Braveheart and The Patriot as soon as you agree to ban Shakespeare's Henry V and Richard III, which are brazenly dishonest and partisan accounts of historical events.

6. It is inefficient to have a national anthem that changes its title whenever your monarch dies, especially if that monarch has no role other than ceremonially. Let's not forget that your national anthem has an extremely boring tune. Rule Britannia will be the tune with which you will sing your next national anthem to. We will get to work on the lyrics immediately.

7. "Football" as you call it will be a permissible pastime, although you will be required to call it soccer. Police officers will be placed at strategic points around the field and riot gear will always be nearby. If you do cause an incident, we will tear your beloved "Football" away from you faster than you can say "Bangers and Mash". The NFL will be started in the UK as well as college Football (The American one) teams. We welcome any two of your rugby players to play an American Football player anytime. We will also be happy to show your rugby players how to wear proper protective gear, so they don’t lose brain cells every time they play.

8. You will not be allowed to own guns. This is because you fail to see how harmless wooden shields and spears are compared to a weapon capable of firing a projectile at upwards of 1,300 feet per second (Refer to the Anglo-Zulu War). You only pretend to be pompous intellects because you don’t have the testicular fortitude to own a gun, and thus only rely on drive by insults.

9. The 5th of November will no longer be celebrated. The 4th of July will replace this celebration and become a nationally recognized holiday, thus reminding you of when 13 of your most productive colonies decided not to recognize you as their ruler.

This holiday will be celebrated by exhuming the corpse of Banastre Tarleton from his grave in Leintwardine. Pilgrims from across the country will flock there to file past his grave and spit on his skull while they curse his memory.

10. We have German cars, and think they are ugly and uncomfortable. British cars will be banned, as they are too small (height wise) for any person to fit into. We will airlift several hundred thousand Pontiacs, Buicks, and Cadillacs. American cars were crap, we agree, in the 70’s until the late 90’s. Since then, American cars are quite well built, very comfortable, and get good gas mileage. If you refuse to drive them, you will be forced to accept George W. Bush as your state governor; it's an easy choice if you ask us.

All roundabouts will be replaced with intersections. You will drive on the right side of the road, seeing as the majority of cars that are driven in the world are. You will convert to the American standard (gallons instead of liters). Litre will be spelled Liter.

11. Anything fried in animal fat will be banned. (This includes your precious "chips".) Belgium was at one time a part of France, so calling them French fries does not seem too far off. To end confusion, thinly sliced pieces of potato (called crisps in the UK) will be referred to as chips, not crisps. Chips will be called French fries, or more commonly, fries.

12. A picture of a Native American will appear inside the state of Massachusetts on all British Tea. He will affectionately be known as "Bosty".

13. American microbreweries will be established and you will see how Beer is supposed to taste. We do enjoy Killian’s Irish Red though (Good job Ireland, for your recipe at least). That company will be incorporated with Samuel Adams. Bud Lite and Miller Light will be introduced in your school vending machines, where it will sell for $1 per can.

14. You will no longer be allowed to call it petrol, for it is called gasoline. You will adopt the American pricing standard for it (roughly around 35p/liter).

15. The American legal system grows and changes because we don’t live under the impression that our legal system is infallible. We wholeheartedly believe that the British could take a lesson from the way that the Americans respect but don’t worship their legal system. We have a channel called C-SPAN that broadcasts live from our chambers of law (the House and Senate) and occasionally broadcasts British Parliament. We tune to that channel solely to chuckle at how infantile and unorganized your lawmakers are.

We find it especially amusing that our government observes parliamentary procedure whilst (by the way that word is ours now) yours seemingly does not.

16. We will tell you who killed JFK when you apologize for the abomination known as "Teletubbies". Anne Wood will be promptly ordered to pay a fee of $2,500 for any person who suffered psychological abuse due to watching the afore mentioned show. You will stop investigating Lady Diana's death, it's time to accept that it was an accident.

17. The English live on land that they seized from its native people. In accordance with our tradition, the US federal government will recognize the poorest land in your country, known as Wales, as a native reservation. The local population will be given the right to run casinos and follow their traditional way of life, which we understand is known colloquially in Britain as "sheep shagging".

18. The British military will be incorporated into the US military. This means that they will no longer be sent into battle with inadequate gear and air support. The SAS and SBS will be allowed to continue operating as distinct units, but the Royal Marines will be disbanded if only because the term "royal" is no longer relevant. The Royal Navy will be known as the US Navy's 8th Fleet.

The SA-80 rifle will be discarded and replaced with the M-16, a proper weapon that is lighter and can be fired either right-handed or left-handed without disassembly. Your special forces have already reportedly discarded the SA-80, you should have listened to them.

19. Taxes will be imposed on British citizens for all damages incurred by the British during the Revolutionary War and War of 1812.

Thank you for your cooperation.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
That was it.
WhiteSammy (100 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
there was a tv show with Ellen DeGeneres in it that was about a society where sexual orientation was reversed from what we consider "normal." Anyways, all of the gays and lesbians were what was culturally exceptable and anyone who was straight or a "breeder" was treated as if they were a social outcast. Also, "coming out of the closet" meant that you were announcing that you were straight and not a homosexual.

I only saw it once for about 10 minutes but i found it funny how role reversals can show you what something looks like from the other person's perspective. The only reason i bring that show up was because these two letters are basically the same concept.
Shrimpy (100 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
yup, I remember that now.
OMGNSO (415 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
I have one key question about TGM's letter. If Britain's military is absorbed by the Yanks, will we be require to shoot ourselves with our own weapons to maintain a quota of Friendly fires?
Ukla (390 D)
15 Apr 09 UTC
LoL.. that one was funny, OMGNSO.

But, if you wanted to be accurate, you should have asked if you would have to shoot each other.
Pantalone (1384 D(S))
15 Apr 09 UTC
Make that "French sub-conscious" as colour comes of course from couleur (French), as do all the other "-our" versus "-or" words.
The Brits just mangled a French word and the Americans made its use more efficient. C'est la vie!
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
15 Apr 09 UTC
"to shoot ourselves" ourselves is plural, and so can actually mean shoot each other.
RiffArt (1299 D)
15 Apr 09 UTC
@Pantalone. Interesting suggestion, but wrong. Colour comes from French (it's of Latin origin), and was in fact spelled "coulour" or "colour" in Ancient French. So we didn't "mangle" the word, it was in fact the French who have changed their word subsequently. As for the American "color" it's hardly more efficient, nor does it more accurately reflect pronunciation; moreover it misses out the subtlety that the two vowel sounds are not (and never were in English, French or Latin) pronounced the same.

However, to those who think that "-ise" is a British ending, can I point out that until the 1990's, major newspapers in Britain still used "-ize" which is the original British spelling and that it is French (and growing illiteracy in Britain) which has influenced the spelling "-ise"


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jadayne (283 D)
15 Apr 09 UTC
Stand-offs interrupting offensive moves.
Two units attack a third unit with one unit supporting. Even though the attack fails, the unit which is attacked cannot perform an offensive move, yes?
Now, if two units attack a unit with 2 units supporting, is the attacked units offensive moves still prevented? Or do the 2 supporting units 'soak up' the attacks, allowing the target unit to perform its move?
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Maniac (189 D(B))
07 Apr 09 UTC
Is the credit crunch good for socilism?
A serious Debate.
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rratclif (0 DX)
12 Apr 09 UTC
Am I overreacting?
(see below)
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lets not take this too seriously
k?
k.

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=10102
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Javabeans (252 D)
12 Apr 09 UTC
Question on Moves/Retreats. Thank you in advance!
Hey guys I have a question on retreats. Lets say I am a turkish unit in bulgaria moving towards serbia. Lets say there is an austrian unit in rumania who is going to get forced out next turn as well, and he would like to be forced out to serbia. Does the turkish unit or austrian unit get serbia? I guess this is a general question on if moves or retreats have higher precedence. Also a link where i can look up rules like this in the future would be appreciated as well.
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BEATtheMeat (100 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
Ending Meta-gaming
This is one idea on how to stop meta gaming.
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GomJabbar (213 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
User Manual for phpDiplomacy?
Is there a User Manual for phpDiplmacy? I am not talking about the rules for Diplomacy. I mean how the program works. What different colored lines mean on map? The phases, time limits, the checkmark after your name in a game, etc.
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OMGNSO (415 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
Cutting supports from the front.
I know a lone attack from the attacked province cannot cut a support, but if the attacking supporting unit is dislodged by and attack from the Province it is supporting into does this cut the support. Here is an example game. ( http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9947) Nth support ENG into Lon and was dislodge by Lon. According to the computer this support was not enough for ENG to stay in London as it was bounced out by Wal.
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thejoeman (100 D)
06 Apr 09 UTC
New variant idea
basically, we start out with a ww1 alliance style game, then after a few years, it becomes classic diplomacy.
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stillwaterguitars (100 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
Unpause Request
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9236

It's been 11 days and we're just waiting for Germany to unpause so we can remove his last unit.
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Sicarius (673 D)
13 Apr 09 UTC
sustainability cont.
tangent from another thread
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po8crg (969 D)
14 Apr 09 UTC
Unpause please
Can you unpause http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=7947 - Austria has one centre, and is the only power that has not voted to unpause. Player appears to have quit phpdip.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
12 Apr 09 UTC
Smart Phones and phpDiplomacy
I'm looking into smart phones and although it isn't a major factor, I would like to know how they handle with this site. Can people with smart phones tell me your experiences?
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Richard III (373 D)
13 Apr 09 UTC
Longest game?
I'm playing Austria in "Robert's Fish and Chips," a heartbreaker - I almost won but played stupid in what was supposed to be the 'endgame' years back. Now it's Fall 1916, with at least another year of play likely. Easily my longest game, FTF or online. What was yours?
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dangermouse (5551 D)
09 Apr 09 UTC
GFDT Update
Llama's website is still broken. Where are we with that last game? Can someone link to it?
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xgongiveit2ya55 (789 D)
08 Apr 09 UTC
3500 - WTA
500pt buy in, 30-48 hour phases. I'd like to line up 7 players before I start the game; any takers?
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rratclif (0 DX)
14 Apr 09 UTC
Calling: WhiteSammy
(see below)
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Ukla (390 D)
12 Apr 09 UTC
New Cheap Fast Game
PPSC, 8 Points, 12 Hour Phases
Game Name : Fastest Snail on the Block
phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=10039
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Sicarius (673 D)
13 Apr 09 UTC
who's a terrorist?
probably you.
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scottkwong (426 D)
13 Apr 09 UTC
Mod Please Help with Unpause
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9098

England was CDed when all other countries voted for a pause. Before the pause started (within 5 minutes), a new England came in, but said that it was an accident and was leaving the game. All countries, except for England, have now voted to unpause, and the game has not yet proceeded. Can someone please manually unpause the game? England never voted for the pause and said he wanted to leave, even if it meant losing points.
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nomoney (532 D)
13 Apr 09 UTC
stonebridge
New game up, join and lets start playing
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gomey (781 D)
13 Apr 09 UTC
Extra unit on board.
Could a mod look at this please? In game: http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9655

England was just forced to disband two units out of four, but still seems to have three units on the board. The fleet in St.Pet shouldn't be there right?
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