Finished: 05 PM Wed 21 Jul 10 UTC
PM only-3
1 day /phase
Pot: 150 D - Autumn, 10, Finished
The Ancient Mediterranean, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
04 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 2: agreed.
04 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 2: Well then I shall agree to my Carthage offer for an alliance.
04 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 2: I would like an alliance with Egypt to wipe out Persia
04 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 2: if you want that alliance greece, you can forget about our NAP
04 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 2: Then who would I fight if not Persia? Its either you or him. Fine, no alliance with Egypt
05 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 2: cool, thanks rome.
05 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 2: Persia, take a look at there being a NAP being Greece and Rome. An alliance between Egypt and Carthage, what do you see happening?
05 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 2: i see having rome in a strrong postion to cause enough chaos to weken either you or Carthage, if egypt had any sense he would hit carthage as well, because he has had a bad start.
06 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 3: Rome, back down now.
06 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 3: lol, why?
06 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 3: Do you really want to wage this war?
06 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 3: well, with carthage weak, and you preoccupied, seems logical to me.
06 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 3: damn beach weather ruins my games....
06 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 3: Its true though, just thought you would want to wipe out all of Carthage first. But the good thing is that Persia is also preoccupied. I think I can wage a two-front war
12 Jul 10 UTC Autumn, 6: egypt, you have a freebie
17 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 8: I think we should call this a draw after Carthage is gone... Its not really all that fair for either of us to win after the CDs of two countries with so numerous supply centers...
17 Jul 10 UTC Autumn, 8: Agreed. But everything till Carthage is gone is fair game
17 Jul 10 UTC Autumn, 8: Agreed to that.
18 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 9: So if you manage to kill Carthage this year, we'll call a draw next spring
18 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 9: If? I will ;)
18 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 9: What if someone just randomly came in as Rome? And yes, IF!
18 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 9: How dare you doubt me :P
18 Jul 10 UTC Autumn, 9: i doubt you. let's call a draw now. would be fair since i'm still here. and those others aren't
18 Jul 10 UTC Autumn, 9: damn romans put me down after i miss one turn and then leave.
18 Jul 10 UTC Autumn, 9: Sorry, Carthage, me and Egypt both want the most points when we declare a draw, I would probably win total, but I'm being nice and giving Egypt some points. And lets see Rome return right now
18 Jul 10 UTC Autumn, 9: Hey, if we're going for the draw, then don't move into Saguntum.
18 Jul 10 UTC Autumn, 9: Or Baleares, if you can do that.
18 Jul 10 UTC Autumn, 9: Hmm, I want Saguntum. I'm fine with war, do you want that? Or do you want a draw?
18 Jul 10 UTC Autumn, 9: Ummm, if you take that, you win :P
18 Jul 10 UTC Autumn, 9: Two supply centers from winning, Sicilia is one, Saguntum would be two.
18 Jul 10 UTC Autumn, 9: *Saguntum, or any other, would be two.
18 Jul 10 UTC Autumn, 9: Hmm, good point, I wasn't expecting this. I did not notice how close I was to winning. I did say that everything was free game until Carthage is dead. This is considered free game since he still exists. Sorry about that, but looks like I win.
18 Jul 10 UTC Autumn, 9: Everything is free game, so our deal will continue on while I keep you on the edge of winning ;)
18 Jul 10 UTC Autumn, 9: I knew you would do that, now this can be even more interesting
18 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 10: Lets see how long I can hold you off ;)
18 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 10: Just so you know, I can end this right now by going to Baleares, but I rather not.
18 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 10: So your just as interested also ;)
18 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 10: I want to see if I win a different way. If you want to keep going, don't take Carthage. And if you want to prevent me from winning, bounce me out of Saguntum
18 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 10: Im getting rid of Carthage either way :P how about when one gets the upper hand, then we call the draw?
18 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 10: What do you mean by that? I already have the upper hand
18 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 10: True... Well then what was your idea about what we do?
18 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 10: I want to see how long you can last against me. And if we keep bouncing each other out of Saguntum, that solves that easy route. And I don't feel like taking Baleares.

And I will declare a draw, if you can force one of my units to retreat.
18 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 10: Thats the best you are going to get
18 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 10: One? Hopefully shouldn't be too hard ;) Then that shall start this turn, I think i'll get one after the resolution of this turn's orders ;)
18 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 10: Hmm, I don't think so. So we are agreed, you may wipe out Carthage and take out his territory if you wish. And I will attack where I am able to attack.
18 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 10: and I will not only play defense
18 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 10: So the one retreat will start in the Fall then?
18 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 10: It can start now if you want. You don't have to gain a SC, just make a unit retreat
19 Jul 10 UTC Spring, 10: Ok, it shall start now! LETS DO THIS!
19 Jul 10 UTC And there is your displacement ;)

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Greece
tietsort (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 30 D, won: 75 D
16 supply-centers, 16 units
Egypt
Noob_Splice (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 30 D, won: 75 D
15 supply-centers, 13 units
Rome
lolloplad (155 D)
Resigned. Bet: 30 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
Carthage
turbomursu (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 30 D
Persia
Defeated. Bet: 30 D
Civil Disorders
therealsonofgod (100 D)Persia (Autumn, 6) with 5 centres.
lolloplad (155 D)Rome (Autumn, 6) with 9 centres.
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