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Finished: 06 AM Fri 21 Oct 16 UTC
zippity zop bop doo
1 day /phase
Pot: 50 D - Spring, 2006, Finished
Modern Diplomacy II, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
27 Sep 16 UTC Autumn, 1998: While I certainly don't like to lose, Poland raises a point.
27 Sep 16 UTC Autumn, 1998: No I had an alliance with uk and Spain then Spain betrayed me and uk supported him. I had a deal with France that they could take switz and I would leave them alone he agreed and then attacked me
27 Sep 16 UTC Autumn, 1998: I let Ukraine have Serbia in exchange for Hungary. Then he took it
27 Sep 16 UTC Autumn, 1998: Then I had an alliance with Poland (the only one left) but then he betrayed me
27 Sep 16 UTC Autumn, 1998: I took Hungary when you lost Croatia. It was clear at that point that you were losing territories in eastern Europe and I moved to secure one of them. Hardly a great betrayal. If I hadn't taken it, someone else would've.
27 Sep 16 UTC Autumn, 1998: It's one of those things man - if your moves put you in a vulnerable position, players feel motivated to join up and attack you because they know the attack is going to work
29 Sep 16 UTC Spring, 1999: Gg
29 Sep 16 UTC Spring, 1999: Look at me standing
Here on my own again
Up straight in the sunshine
No need to run and hide
It's a wonderful wonderful life
No need to laugh and cry
It's a wonderful wonderful life
30 Sep 16 UTC Autumn, 1999: I'm still standing yeah yeah yeah
I'm still standing yeah yeah yeah
02 Oct 16 UTC Spring, 2000: He killed me with his Spanish practices!
05 Oct 16 UTC Spring, 2001: What is the winning number of SCs in this game?
05 Oct 16 UTC Spring, 2001: 32
05 Oct 16 UTC Spring, 2001: Jesus end me now please lol
05 Oct 16 UTC Spring, 2001: I'm toast as well
05 Oct 16 UTC Spring, 2001: what better time than halloween to have so many Walking Dead players?!
05 Oct 16 UTC Spring, 2001: Ghosts of betrayal pasts
11 Oct 16 UTC Spring, 2003: Is that yet another betrayal to add to the list? Are you backing out of the draw deal, Spain?
11 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2003: No, I'm not backing out of anything. I agree to play for a draw and include you, not to support-hold my forces indefinitely (which invites the other player to exploit it and make strong attacks....which is exactly what happened. I did not expect you to stop attacking me.)
11 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2003: Ah. I see. Very well.
11 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2003: Take Israel for yourself, I won't defend it, and you could force it to work anyways if you want it badly.
11 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2003: I'm more interested in a swift elimination of the minor players with the exception of Poland, who will be seeking asylum in Kiev, safely within my borders for the draw. A loyal ally and instrumental to my own growth, I owe Poland as much as to allow them a draw rather than defeat on their record.
11 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2003: The point cost, of course, is tiny, and will in fact create a pot of 54 and we'll all still come out with more than we put in.
11 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2003: Congrats to the three of you: you all played an excellent game. Special thanks to Ukraine for being a solid and steadfast ally and for sticking to his word. Thank you to all of you for letting me share in the draw. I look forward to playing with/against you all in the future.
11 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2003: Egypt shall live on, even in death :)
14 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: Poland I understand you're playing for the draw, but you gotta vote "draw" to make that possible
14 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: aw what the hell is this, Ukraine not entering moves??
14 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: Draw vote is entered - I didn't realize Russia was a part of the draw, so I was waiting to vote until he left.
14 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: If we are drawing, why are you both still attacking Ukraine??
14 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: He's not supposed to be a part of the draw but he keeps not dying.

If Ukraine is supposed to be in this game why did he not enter any orders???

Was trying to pressure Ukraine to cut you out of the draw
14 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: If I'm cut out, I'm cut out; it's just a silly game, lads. Odd though that he was attacked prior to it be being evident that he was going to miss a phase. Rather poor sportsmanship actually to attack someone (Ukraine) with whom you had arranged a draw, but sadly, such poor sportsmanship isn't all that unusual on the site. Nine more SCs and Britain claims the solo.
14 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: ? But Ukraine had submitted orders according to the tick sign.. hence the play on
14 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: The great thing about rationalizations is that you really don't need to share them with anyone else: they exist solely to assuage its creator's psyche.
14 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: ok whatever poland
14 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: I readied with no orders assigned (all holds) because one of two things is going to happen. We draw, or Spain and Britain extend the game by meticulously capping the same number of supply centers (every single one divided exactly evenly between them) and hoping they don't betray each other. I have no chance of stopping them if they decide to go down that route, the draw was always predicated on all of us not wanting this pointless game to go on any longer.
14 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: ^
14 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: I got my draw vote in, so you have to attack Britain if you want him to stop, otherwise, if he wants to continue the game, he will, and go for a solo
14 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: both of you know what the original deal was, so I don't understand why you're pretending that I'm stopping you guys from getting on with life or whatever
14 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: Ukraine is throwing the game unless we vote draw, the bet is worth 10 points, I don't care what deal there is, the only way we can force anything other than a draw right now is to play out the game, Ukraine is holding the game hostage by refusing to play the game out
14 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: Holding it hostage? I'm merely acting on the information given to me. It would be truly pointless and dull to continue playing if the two of you decided the points were worth eliminating Poland and I over, go ahead. I couldn't possibly stop you. This game is legitimately over. There's no game anymore because the outcome is decided. Or Britain could throw in their draw vote as well and end it now so we can get on with our lives.
14 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: And by getting on with our lives I mean, our lives as they relate to webdiplomacy, not the remaining 99.9999% of human existence, Britain.
14 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: Since Britain offered to draw if more players were eliminated, you've contributed to the situation Ukraine. You weren't able to get the draw you wanted or the outcome you asked for or whatever, and stopped playing in order to drag out the game.

If you eliminated Poland and Russia, the game would have come to an end a long time ago. But you interpreted the situation differently and are now making the game take much, much longer than it needed to by declining to enter moves and destabilizing the situation.

I also think you're bitter that you didn't understand that playing for a draw doesn't mean support-holding and hoping for the best.
14 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: Right, because it's just common sense that when players agree to draw, you keep attacking them . . .

Seriously.
14 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: Players can claim to want a draw and just attack you anyways. Best defensive is a good offense.
14 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: Yes, but what you're describing is a stab, but this version is really the most cowardly kind.
15 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: "stopped playing in order to drag out the game." This is blatantly untrue. Me not entering orders beyond holds actually shortens the game because I'm not resisting occupation. Your claim is as ridiculous as it is false.
15 Oct 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: The only one extending the game is Britain by not voting draw. Which of course Britain is well within their rights to do, I don't claim otherwise. But to accuse me of extending the game is an insane proposition. I'm not bitter, I simply realize that this game is over and trying to fight an entirely futile fight is pointless and I have no reason to go through the trouble to assign orders when the result will be the same thing.
20 Oct 16 UTC Thank you, gentlemen and/or ladies.
20 Oct 16 UTC Thank you too :) sorry about wanting to prolong in the end I got busy in to to play out what I would've wanted tbh

Thank you Spain for being a great ally
20 Oct 16 UTC We could have been great allies
20 Oct 16 UTC Gg

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Britain
Rainfromabove (798 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 13 D
27 supply-centers, 27 units
Spain
swordsman3003 (13181 D (G))
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 13 D
22 supply-centers, 22 units
Ukraine
Saria (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 13 D
14 supply-centers, 14 units
Poland
Eadan (454 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 13 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
Egypt
Vytox (30 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
France
Droid (192 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Germany
Strategyst (321 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Italy
nib (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Russia
Hauta (1618 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Turkey
BusDespres (182 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Civil Disorders
19Sox98 (100 D)Turkey (Autumn, 1994) with 6 centres.
yavuzovic (631 D)Turkey (Spring, 1998) with 10 centres.
TheJamesPowell (100 D)France (Autumn, 1995) with 4 centres.
people (100 D)Germany (Spring, 1997) with 6 centres.
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