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Finished: 03 AM Sat 09 Jul 16 UTC
Spiral Trance
1 days /phase
Pot: 100 D - Spring, 2010, Finished
Fall of the American Empire IV, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
20 Jun 16 UTC Spring, 2004: *?
20 Jun 16 UTC Spring, 2004: Why cuba would ask this question? I am very confused.
20 Jun 16 UTC Spring, 2004: Someone got into NY's ear and planted the idea that Quebec may stab, but the reality is BC, Quebec, NY, Cuba, and Florida are banded together and we will stop Texas and Mexico. We will not fracture, we will not split, and we certainly will not stab.
20 Jun 16 UTC Spring, 2004: You should all be afraid of BC. He is a proven backstabber!
20 Jun 16 UTC Spring, 2004: NOW BC and Que have 10 and 9 and they are the main threat
FL I don't know why he missed but it's lucky for me.
but now seems the case is
que, you said you are allied with NY, but you didn't offer any support for NY
you should be appreciated that you moved well to hit heartland, but now you and BC already have 21 sc and how could you persuade NY?
actually no one need to "got into" NY's ear, the truth is, you are too strong, you need to face this fact.
20 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: i am ordering chicago to drive his tank into lake michigan.
20 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: Mexico how am I a backstabber? I have been allied with Quebec from the very beginning. It was just good diplomacy that got you two on my side
20 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: can it be driven in lake LOL
20 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: BC, pretend you weren't a backstabber, but you know you are. I handed you Hawaii on a silver platter when I could have easily taken it for myself. No way you can explain that without admitting to backstabbing.
20 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: I've muted Texas - he is trying to split our alliance by spreading rumors.
20 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: you make me laugh
now you and BC have 21 sc, I have only 8
you use 21 sc to "stop me and mexico" only?
if I or mexico lose, you will have total of 30 or more (but seems BC could get more, what a pity for quebec)
I don't know what CUBA think, but now NY knew your plan
I have 8, mexico have 9, NY have 6 or 7
I think we could stop you now.
20 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: BC will break the alliance with his next stab going for the solo victory.
20 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: Mexico stop being the 12 year old kid on Xbox that complains when he is doing bad on call of duty. :)

Just kidding but come on man it's just a game and I have been allied with Quebec from turn 1. Good diplomacy got me Hawaii.
20 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: Lying got you Hawaii. ;)
20 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2004: If that's how you define diplomacy then fine
21 Jun 16 UTC Spring, 2005: Yes, seeking an alliance and division of resources followed by immediately breaking the alliance is lying/diplomacy depending on your perspective.

For anyone seeking a more stable relationship than BC can offer, I am open to groupings to counter the yellow-haired lair. Trump reference? Maybe. ;)
21 Jun 16 UTC Spring, 2005: Mexico - you've made your point, please just stop. It smacks of immaturity.
21 Jun 16 UTC Spring, 2005: Just having fun. It's a game, relax!
21 Jun 16 UTC Spring, 2005: everyone have his right to speak
Quebec, why you said all other party should go with you to finish texas and mexico?
after our death, I am sure NY would get much less than yours, so you will try to draw without killing NY?
you never give any chance for NY to get more sc, only DMZ. Now you take almost all of Heartland.
I already given Miss and Ncar to NY, what did you give?
hopefully BC get more SC than you, if you are the biggest, I'm quite sure you would be the main threat of all regions
21 Jun 16 UTC Spring, 2005: I agree with Quebec, Mexico stop spouting immaturity. Literally, this entire game is about saying one thing and doing another and if you can't handle it I would find another game
21 Jun 16 UTC Spring, 2005: BC, if you can't handle a little good-natured banter, maybe you need to look up the definition of "game" and not take it so seriously. :)

I've literally posted five lousy and brief messages in more than a week. That's hardly clogging up the global chat, nor demonstrating that I "can't handle" anything. It's just banter, but if you can't handle some ribbing, I'll offer radio silence the rest of the game if you will, BC.. ;) No whining from you, no immature banter from me. Deal?

Besos y abrazos de Mexico, mis amigos!
21 Jun 16 UTC Spring, 2005: Build that wall ?¿
21 Jun 16 UTC Spring, 2005: Hah. LOL You might convince me to build it! ;)
21 Jun 16 UTC Spring, 2005: Lol, it is really hard to detect sarcasm especially on this game. I like banter! We shall continue. Just please don't pull a Ramsay Bolton on me :)

But wait, if they build a wall, that will split up the Texas/Mexico alliance.......
21 Jun 16 UTC Spring, 2005: Other forces currently at play will likely spell the end of the Texas / Mexico alliance long before any wall does . . .
22 Jun 16 UTC Spring, 2005: quebec, now you and BC is the main threat of all others... stop acting any other parties should be ended. stop your final fantasy
28 Jun 16 UTC Spring, 2007: I'm Mel-tiiiiiinnnng...
30 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2007: lol Cuba is there anyway you can take the pink off the map?
30 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2007: If anyone is interested - it's sort of a large bet. Pot will be huge.

gameID=180719
30 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2007: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=180719
30 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2007: I actually like having the pink there, in memory
30 Jun 16 UTC Autumn, 2007: of the struggles that have been overcome
01 Jul 16 UTC Spring, 2008: Does everyone agree to the split of the remaining 10 centers:

Cuba: San Antonio, VeraCruz, Nuevo Leon
BC: Mexico, Guadalajara, Durango
Quebec: Dallas, Houston
NY: Louisiana, Tampa

???
01 Jul 16 UTC Spring, 2008: Yes, sir!
02 Jul 16 UTC Spring, 2008: I do not agree!!!
05 Jul 16 UTC Spring, 2009: May I request to trade BC Mexico for San Antonio?
05 Jul 16 UTC Spring, 2009: I agree to it
06 Jul 16 UTC Autumn, 2009: Quebec can you support west Texas to San Antonio so that we can end this game this year? This way Cuba can focus on taking Nuevo Leone
06 Jul 16 UTC Autumn, 2009: Done
07 Jul 16 UTC Autumn, 2009: I'll vote Draw once Mexico disbands.

Good game, all. This is one I'll always remember fondly.
07 Jul 16 UTC Autumn, 2009: Agreed!

My draw vote is up after Mexico's builds are complete.

Thank you, Quebec. It's been an honor working with you. Although I was a little shaky to start off with, I'm glad we could do fine work together.

Cuba, congratulations on overtaking Peru and fighting the Mexicans until death.

BC, congratulations on an excellent performance against Cali, Texas, and Mexico.


Mexico, it just wasn't your time. I thank you for staying in the game and not leaving like some would. You played a hell of a game.

Thank you all for this game, it's been a pleasure.
07 Jul 16 UTC Autumn, 2009: ^^
07 Jul 16 UTC Autumn, 2009: I ain't no quitter, even when backstabbers (and original enemies) gang up on me! :)
07 Jul 16 UTC Autumn, 2009: Great game everyone!
07 Jul 16 UTC Autumn, 2009: Mexico, you made no mistakes, just bad luck
08 Jul 16 UTC Mexico, anyway u did good job
08 Jul 16 UTC Draw size game make 3 or 4 parties ganging others, it makes no party wanna self winning
08 Jul 16 UTC This game is a good lesson
What a pity that we didnt hit bc right after cali death
08 Jul 16 UTC Hey Texas, remember when you told me I would get 'crushed' because I was focusing on Heartland?
08 Jul 16 UTC It's just a game Texas. One that you stopped playing cause you were a sore loser. Kudos to Mexico for sticking it out. You the real MVP

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British-Columbia
nickste89 (1843 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 25 D
15 supply-centers, 15 units
Cuba
bobbocow (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 25 D
15 supply-centers, 15 units
New-York
MegaCalf (386 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 25 D
14 supply-centers, 14 units
Quebec
Eadan (454 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 25 D
14 supply-centers, 14 units
California
Alhambra (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Florida
taipan (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Heartland
suprstar1072 (576 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Mexico
rbunnell3 (213 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Peru
WebMD (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Texas
mkchaihk (93 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
mkchaihk (93 D X)Texas (Spring, 2009) with 1 centres.
Qiv (100 D)Florida (Spring, 2003) with 6 centres.
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