the things that he is writing

hahaha it is funny

Spring move - 5:00 minutes and then instant move forward
Summer retreat - 5:00 minutes and then 5 minute buffer before the turn moves forward
Fall move - 7:00 minutes and then instant move forward
Winter Retreat - 5:00 minutes with the 5 minutes buffer
end of year SC:Unit adjustment - 5:00, i forget if there was a buffer

This is what I noticed. I think that all the phases should have the 5 minute buffer. It was just too intensely fast... I haven't played gunboat before, but I might even be too short for that. Also France noted, that at about 12 SC, it was almost all he could do to get all of his orders in!

taking him awile.....im going to go write my will tell me when he is done

It took him 4 min he told me

If i'm wrong about those times, please correct me anyone that was in the game... the 7 minute fall move, is the most confusing. haha

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=13257#gamePanel

This is the game... you will notice that it is insane...

yea it was wierd also the spring 1902 experienced 10 min i saw.....i dont no if any body else was paying attention but that was whne i said that was the longest 5 min of my life

I believe it was something like that.

Anyway... this is too fast...
10 min or 15min is probably the best way to do a live game...

I just don't have an explanation for those details about 7min instead of 5 and instant adjudication or not instant...

anyone who can explain feel free to share.

all of those turns, even the ones that were 7 or 10 minutes, were the SHORTEST 5 minute periods of my life.

i think 15 min would be good with instant adjudication

i can't believe france drew, he had the solo in the bag, so long as he could keep all his orders in... em... order.

i told them a million times he wasnt going to win....we were going to draw (im England) thats why when i took Keil it was in a year that he took Rome so he would lose a unit and i would get closer to 17 and then my armies could start to move over into Russia

it was getting difficult for him and i believe austria had to leave...
england was not helping the others....
but we tried to shoot france with messages everyturn so that he would loose time puting orders :)

It was really chaotic.

In the "update" post, the patch notes said: "- In short(<=15 mins) games, Retreat and Unit-placing phases are processed right away when everyone finalizes their moves."

Sounds like that possibly wasn't working properly?

I think if I were to do a live game I'd go with 15 minutes. 5 just seems crazy. Maybe for a live gunboat game.

hmm, buffer in retreats phase should not happen.
It's designed to move forward instantly in retreats and unit-placing phase of very fast(<=15 mins) game when everyone finalizes and leftover time until next cronjob(every 5 mins) should be added to next diplomacy phase... so when everyone finalize retreat phase in 2 minutes, next diplomacy phase should be 8 minutes.

i believe that the gamemaster adjudicates every five minutes. every game that needs adjudicating at that time will receive it. sooo...some phases you finished right before gamemaster was due to adjudicate and some phases you didn't. someone correct me if I'm wrong on that.

in my experience 10 minute phases is doable but is really pushing it. 15 minute phases seems like the best live game phase length to me.

i will say 5 mins is too fast, i NMR'd trying to beat the clock. one page hangs with 45 seconds left and ooops! you ar screwed

You can see by my comment that this was my favorite live game i love chaos and right at the begining it was chaos

5 minutes does seem crazy, i'd like to try it some time.

It sounds like to me, that there is a mix up

the retreat and unit-placing phases are getting the buffer and the movement phases are instant.... when it should be the other way around according to Alderian.

Jacob....I don't think it is the case...
sometimes it moved instatanly (bad english I suppose) and those 7 min where really 7 min in the clock, countdown, not 5 plus 2 of waitting time for gamemaster.

i thought nothing was buffered i was watching it and ever time at 0 sec it would switch to Now and then i would refresh and boom next phase

Humm...i agree with timmi88's, I think it is doing exactly the contrary of what is supposed

sometimes it moved immediatly, other times it buffered...

yeah, not having the buffer on movement phases, screwed france and russia a decent amount.

was this the first 5min phase game that has been done?

there shouldn't be *any* buffer at all. except added bonus time in diplomacy phase. :(

@ jayp, what do you mean?

It work like this.
1. instant adjudication is only enabled in Retreats and Unit-placing phase
2. when instantly adjudicated, remaining time until next cronjob (cronjob runs every 5 minutes) is added to next diplomacy phase.
3. cronjob should adjudicate it when timer ends. (no 5 minutes countdown plus 5 minutes buffer until next cronjob in any phase.)

I don't know what cronjob is. I'm not a programer or anything...

Are you saying that NO phases should have the five minute buffer, because me and Troodonte are saying that ONLY the movement phase should have the buffer...

maybe i'm using the term buffer incorrectly, or describing the wrong thing, but even in a 24h game there is still an extra ten minutes after the phase is over. I'm not sure if that extra 5 minutes is on all the phase or just the movement phases...

extra five minutes* i meant

anyone up for another

it's an extra 0 - 5 minutes depending on when the next cron job is scheduled.

a cron job is just a time for some processing to occur, so every 5 minutes things ctually update on the site, which doesn't make any difference in a 24 hour game, but in a 5 minute game it is suddenly very important.

What I described above is what it should be doing, which apparently does not work as I designed. :( (found culprit and will be fixed shortly though..)
If you want 10 minutes, then you should set 10 minutes phase length. ;)

Maybe there could be another option to set length of retreats/unit-placing phase separate from diplomacy(move) phase...

i'm down for a 10 min minimum... would rather do 15... but not 5... thats just crazy talk =P

h/t Ed

it was crazy i dodnt think i will be able to type right for a week

see dodnt....dont