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jasoncollins (186 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
When people don't talk
Hey all - Just wondering, what do you generally do in a game when everyone seems to rush you, and no one seems to talk?

Just seems a bit pointless :)
EdiBirsan (1469 D(B))
03 Jun 09 UTC
There are several things to break the ice-
Ask what would they do in your position?
What do they think 'x''s best moves are?
Did you ever see the 'c' moves in sequence before?
When you played these folks before, was the game like this? (if you had asked the starting question at the beginning of the game of Do you know these folks?
Ask an off game question... do you play at any other sites or at any tournaments - what other games do you like - whatever.

iMurk789 (100 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
yea, i hate that
jasoncollins (186 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
They have started to talk now, I think my messages finally got through :) But it seems a bit stupid to play diplomacy and not even be open to talking to other countries (or specific countries) - and when it is 3-4 players doing the same thing, we have a fairly lame game..
Akroma (967 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
happened to me before, but never with every player in the game, only a few

of course, those silent guys were mercilessly eliminated by me
iMurk789 (100 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
yea, why do they even bother to join the game if theyre going to play like that? it isnt even enjoyable. its even worse when they turn out to be metagamers...
fortknox (2059 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
Some people hate talking to those they are attacking... afraid they will open the doors to sympathy and stop the attack.
I, for one, welcome it. Some of the best alliance mates are those you almost destroyed (or almost destroyed you). They just want to survive, and if you let them, they can really help you... and you can put troops on the borders for 'paranoia' reasons, and they won't be offended. ;)
Glorious93 (901 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
In one of my current games (no names mentioned to save the embarrassment of the individual) I wrote a lengthy paragraph to a neighboring country to which the reply was "uh"

Hard to reply to that.
djbent (2572 D(S))
03 Jun 09 UTC
hahaha i love those moments.
Akroma (967 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
I hate those moments

we need to implent a minimum length for press
Pete U (293 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
So you'll get uhuhuhuh - Beavis and Butthead play Dip...
fortknox (2059 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
uh

(Sorry, couldn't resist)! ;)
Mr. Pinguin (344 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
I don't take it too personally.

I'm a little verbose (as some may have noticed from my brief time in these forums), so I'm used to getting replies that are unsatisfyingly short.. It happens in my professional life. It has happened in my love life. And it happens in Diplomacy. :)

However, I've found that saying *alot* earns me some credit.. because I can spin my wheels and say everything I'm thinking, and I can be honest about it all (earning me some trust turns/years later).. And it's all with minimal risk because I'm still a bit careful, and because most people seem to be overwhelmed by the amount of press I share so they can't decide which parts of it may be lies or manipulative subterfuge.
mapleleaf (0 DX)
03 Jun 09 UTC
Sent from: Akroma Online (299 ) Sent: 07:30 PM
I hate those moments

we need to implent a minimum length for press
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Let's call it the "Girlie Rule". As a corollary to this rule, we must also talk about a minimum of "one" of our feelings.

It's not a sewing circle, people. It's a game. I have been called out for uncommunicative play by some people. This is because I communicate extensively with some Great Powers, less extensively with some, and not at all with some. I do not blather on with every player in every game, nor do I feel the need. The hilarious part for me, I suppose, is that those who feel the opposite are those who build the biggest soapboxes and have the loudest(and most annoying IMHO) megaphones.

"Why won't everybody text me? Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. I'm hurt. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. Pay attention to me!!!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. I'm INTERESTING!!!!!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah"

These people cannot conceive of the possibility that I am(sometimes) communicating with everybody EXCEPT THEM.

FYI. My favourite colour is nobody's frigging business. I represent sovereign Great Powers. Lives are at stake. I do not care about your 14 cats. I do care about whether or not we can agree on the DMZ.
mapleleaf (0 DX)
03 Jun 09 UTC
Oops. I almost forgot my favourites.

"Are all of your games Gunboat?" "This is DIPLOMACY. Do you not understand the word?"
hellalt (70 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
i think its annoying when you send 2 questions or propositions and the other one doesnt even care to say yes or no
the good think its that you dont send a third one, just troops against him lol
sceptic_ka (100 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
some people open a thread on the forum and complain about the "multis".
djbent (2572 D(S))
03 Jun 09 UTC
@mapleleaf - why is it girlie? i'm pretty sure most of the players that you are having that experience are dudes (tho maybe they're not the tough rugged canadian dude that you obviously are =P) so it's actually "manly" behavior.

and just as your silence is a diplomatic tool, so is some people's blather. don't knock it just b/c it doesn't work for you!

mapleleaf (0 DX)
03 Jun 09 UTC
@djbent - What I am knocking is not the insipid chatter. What I am knocking is the insistence of it's purveyors that people who do not engage in it are not playing the game "properly".

For example, "What's the weather like in your city right now?" is not a question that I need to entertain at the negotiating table.

Some people are just needy, I guess.
Babak (26982 D(B))
03 Jun 09 UTC
sigh

maple - i recognize some of that press =P
Onar (131 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
I never got into that kind of personal banter, but I'd welcome it with open arms. Should I approach someone with "Whats the weather like over there?" And recieve a comment to the effect of: "Screw you!" Or something you seem to be implying as your usual response, I'd be more likely to attack.
Babak (26982 D(B))
03 Jun 09 UTC
hence my contentious dip-relationship with mapleleaf ;P
djbent (2572 D(S))
03 Jun 09 UTC
well, since you asked maple, it just started raining, i'm stuck late at the office and i guess i won't be biking home. and i don't have an umbrella. dammit!!

so how about support into galicia? =P
Onar (131 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
Nah, it's raining in galacia.
mapleleaf (0 DX)
04 Jun 09 UTC
@Onar - Except for canute(banned multi), I cannot recall degenerating into the "Screw you" response genre. I think that I answered the weather question, when it was posed. Further to the point, I do not have usual responses.
mapleleaf (0 DX)
04 Jun 09 UTC
Oh, and canute, as you are undoubtedly reading this, "Screw you!".


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idealist (680 D)
04 Jun 09 UTC
we seriously need a messaging system
don't you agree?
i think the new version has it. yay
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germ519 (210 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
join this
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=11337
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djbent (2572 D(S))
03 Jun 09 UTC
live game on monday?
anyone up for it? starting around 1300 GMT, 15 minute turns, low pot?
18 replies
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texasdeluxe (516 D(B))
03 Jun 09 UTC
Unpause request
For game My father once owned a pony
4 replies
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Babak (26982 D(B))
03 Jun 09 UTC
LandMark Education
Has anyone here taken the Landmark Forum or gone all the way through the curriculum. I just finished the Advanced Course this weekend and I think Landmark is pretty much the best thing since sliced bread... just wanted to see if others have done the education too?
5 replies
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Taelisan (127 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
Transcript
Is there anyway to get a complete transcript as to what was said in a game. Seeing as the early comments disappear?
6 replies
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Biddis (364 D)
31 May 09 UTC
Myer Briggs - Is there a personality suited to diplomacy?
Just wondering whether people have figured out their Myer Briggs personalitys (http://www.personalitypathways.com/type_inventory.html) and whether there are more of a certain type which do well at diplomacy.
39 replies
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Submariner (111 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
New 12 hour game
Hot Bunk 3
12 hours
9 points to join.
2 replies
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el_maestro (14722 D(B))
03 Jun 09 UTC
New Game <707's Pot Game > Game will start: 13 hours
# End of phase: 13 hours # Points-per-supply-center
# 30 hours/phase: Normal pace # Pot: 202
Need 5 more players ...
7 replies
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BoG75 (6816 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
New Game "Trust no one - WTA" Game will start:13 hours
30 hour phase
101 points
WTA
Join
4 replies
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baron von weber (549 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
Support moves again!
If unit A supported by unit B attacks, unit X, would the attack work if Unit B, which is supported by unit C, is attacked by unit Y???
2 replies
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bishopofRome (0 DX)
03 Jun 09 UTC
Anybody intrested in a live game?!?!?!
50 points
18 hour phases incase people bail.........
try to get every move in 10 min
4 replies
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Jacob (2466 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
Anyone up for a live game today? As in, right now??
5 point WTA
10 minute spring & fall; 2 minute build & retreat
24hr phase length in case someone decides to bail (game would be completed as normal game.
13 replies
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Fbgav (206 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
Honestly... Multi anyone?
Think about it people
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=11334
3 replies
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nhonerkamp (687 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
New Game: Fall Out
35 point buy in
PPSC
12 hour phases
0 replies
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djbent (2572 D(S))
03 Jun 09 UTC
game paused when it shouldn't be?
our league game just got paused, out of nowhere.
14 replies
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nickedenfield (0 DX)
02 Jun 09 UTC
luke17
Sorry bit of a wait
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Unpause request
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=10088

The game was paused, two new players took over CD countries but haven't logged in to the game since May 22 and haven't issued unpause orders. The players in question (Henry Kissinger and Strike) have also gone CD in most of their other games.
0 replies
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Nitta (105 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
Check Marks and Xs
What do those mean in the game? You can see them next to a player's name on the bottom of the screen. Nothing happens when you click on them, so I imagine they have to do with the status of the player's orders...?

Sorry for such a newbie question.
9 replies
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kaner406 (356 D)
02 Jun 09 UTC
Unpause needed
Could a moderator please unpause this game?
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=10887
Thanks
6 replies
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
03 Jun 09 UTC
Stupid newbie question
Is it possible to move from Spain to North Africa by land, with an army? They seem to be touching, on the map.
5 replies
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Submariner (111 D)
01 Jun 09 UTC
GM : Green Motors
Who thinks this could be Obama's 'Man On The Moon' moment...

Announce that GM will be relaunched as Green Motors and will produce only cars that run on electricity or water by 2012.
25 replies
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S.P.A.O. (655 D)
02 Jun 09 UTC
Build Rules
You have the option of waiting on your builds...
Does this mean that you can build in mid-year, or do you have to wait until the end of the year anyway?
5 replies
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larzke (100 D)
02 Jun 09 UTC
Why not make Colonial Diplomacy?
Since the rules are exactly the same, and it's just the board that is different, wouldn't it be fairly easy to also create a Colonial game? Same game but very different dynamics.
9 replies
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Submariner (111 D)
01 Jun 09 UTC
European Elections
Who is voting in what way on Thursday and Sunday?
58 replies
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
03 Jun 09 UTC
Listen
http://www.npr.org/templates/player/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=4&islist=true&id=2&d=06-02-2009

lol
0 replies
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Crazyter (1335 D(G))
03 Jun 09 UTC
Fri-Sat Superfast Game
Anyone up for a superfast (less than 1 hr phases) game starting Fri, pausing for 12 hours or so for, and continuing on Sat?
0 replies
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diplomat1824 (0 DX)
02 Jun 09 UTC
World's biggest known minefield
38th Parallel (DMZ) on the Korean Peninsula. How is Kim Jong Il planning on getting past it? He can't, so why is he doing so much saber-rattling and journalist kidnapping? Discuss. (Rational, please)
42 replies
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Master_Chavix (289 D)
02 Jun 09 UTC
Is this Multiplaying or what?
I would like to have the moderators look at this: Heinomat1893 and Ello are playing he same games (only one is out of this) and are always allied. Besides they have the same times of log in in several situations!!!
I just want someone to look at this, please!
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