Yup, that's me! Sorry guys. It's actually an interesting game, switching alliances all the time. I won't comment any more as it's ongoing, but it may take a little while to finish off.

Chris and cg beat me to it. Yes, game 16 is still ongoing and will affect the seeding for round 2, so until it is complete I can't yet make the draws.

Finish it already, cgwhite! :) The top 21 advance...is that correct?

That is correct.

thanks!

Seeding for Round Two? That should be very interesting as I only just squeaked in...

Don't friggin *stab* me this time, Darwyn! ;)

=D lol, I'll have to look that game up...I don't recall. But don't worry, I shall not stab you again. <_< >_> <- I believe that is the emoticon for shifty eyes? :)

Ah yes, now I remember...In hindsight, it was a bad stab. I failed to look far enough ahead on that one.

I am actually quite under stress right now, and will also be for at least 2 more weeks (also the reason why I am semi-quitting my ongoing game)

if you guys duke it out, fine by me, by the looks of it it might take a long while to finish this one

but if you draw and round 2 suddenly starts tomorrow, I shall be very very pissed

Point taken Akroma! I don't want to end up in a game with you next round with you very very annoyed, given your record in round one!

don't forget that I will also be preoccupied

Is round 2 seeding based soley on Round 1?

Yes, except when there are ties, in which case original seeding is used as a tiebreaker.

When round 2 starts, will an email be sent directly to the 21 people or is it the sort of thing that it will be posted here and we have to hunt through all the posts to find it?

The 21 players for round 2 will be emailed. I wouldn't expect everyone to be checking here. :)

And yes, round 2 seeding is based on round 1 performance with ties broken by round 1 seeding.

I noticed season 1 of the league is almost done too.... only Group C game 5 left to be completed.

Can we make sure that GFDT Round 2 and the new league season starts are staggered a least a little.. would be much appreciated.

Love your work guys!!

The GFDT Round One Game 16 is excellent: great fun to watch.

Ya it is, half way through the game you would never guess that England and Austria would be the strongest countries. The MasterGamer had quite the roller coaster.

There will definitely be an EOG for this one. I've never put so much into a game :s

This year's tournament has taken much longer...I remember we started the Finals in April last year.

I keep meaning to do EOG's but something always comes up.

Perhaps when the League has completed its first stage I will do an End of Group message.

Interesting idea flash. The problem with being in separate groups is that we sometimes miss what's going on elsewhere. Has your group finished yet?

No, Game 5 is still running and is the last game of all in the whole Group Stage. I expect to win. I hold Trieste and sod all else but have them all thinking I am finished.

ps I pass through Blighty quite soon. I will let you know if I can make time for London.

Looks like a battle of pride (or seeding), seeing as cg and mastergamer both are already in round 2...

who knows ?

that one additional seeding point could be the one that decides the outcome

also, who knows what lazysummer will pull to maybe get into the next round ?

Pride comes before a fall...

Flash - would be good to get a decent rematch in Blighty where I actually manage to turn up. And the cricket season hasn't started yet... And I wear a helmet now...

If there is a draw, Mastergamer looses out and Lazy goes though.

true enough, but it doesn't look like a draw anytime soon
england and italy have a strong vice on austria

should italy aim to replace themastergamer in round 2, there is not much that can be done

Italy gaining enough SCs is also possible

Yeah, Lazy summer could technically qualify still and if either CG or Master eliminate the other then the eliminated one doesn't qualify. In fact if CG wins a certain balance of centres neither Master or Lazy will qualify and Ivo_Ivanov would squeek in. Exciting stuff.

How is round 2 going to work? Are there two games? Just one? How will the seeding hash out those games if there are more than one?

Round 2 will have 6 games. Each person will be in two games.

6 games for round 2 of the tournament? wow, that sounds like a lot.

lol...ooops...sorry. Just realized that was total. nevermind.

I'm very out this year, but just as a suggestion: can you separate all players from first round games?

Interesting proposal. That might make putting the games together more complicated. Are you worried about meta-gaming figle? I think the important thing is to make sure noone is in both round 2 games with someone else.

Assuming that isn't done, what ranks are playing together?
For example: Players rank 1,4,8,12,15,18,21 together? Or whatever.. I didn't really understand how it was put together last round.

My two games were:

8,9,25,26,39,40,54=201
5,11,19,24,26,45,49=179

So according to seedings, the second game should have been tougher.

I was planning to make game assignments in Round 2 work similarly as to the ones in Round 1, determined by seed. Round 2 will use the Round 1 rankings instead of seeding, however. If you're interested in how this was done, I just put up a quck explaination here: http://www.llamanation.org/gfdt-about-game-placements

Thanks llama, looks like a good system to me.

so wait - is round two only open to players from round 1? can new players join the tournament?

or the league? i'm still confused as how i could sign up and how many pts I should try to have in reserve for my games.

Sent from: Darwyn (670 ) Sent: Thu 07 AM
Finish it already, cgwhite! :) The top 21 advance...is that correct?Sent from: thewonderllama (98 ) Sent: Thu 07 AM
That is correct
Too bad, mate I would join too.

Who are the top 21?

http://www.llamanation.org/gfdt2008#registered_list

strange, the standings were removed
but they should be there

I think the standings may have influenced game play....course this may just be sour grapes from the guy sitting at #21!

I wonder how much llama will pay me not to publish my dump of the standings on my own site :D

Babak, round two of the tournament is only open to round one players, so you'll have to wait for next year's GFDT.

You can join the league now, I believe, you will just enter the lowest group and have to climb your way up. The league is a series of five games, each game started about two weeks after the previous game and typically for a 25 point buy-in. I think the next round of the league will start up again in a few weeks or so, but not sure. If you can have 125 points for all five league games, that is best, but if you are low on points you can request that your league games are for a 5 point buy-in and that is typically accommodated.

I shall be reducing the number of games to 4 for this season, so that we can start the next season on time. It will then go back to five games.

I will try to make sure that we start a couple of weeks after the GFDT round 2, because there is alot of overlap between the two.

The standard buy in will be dropped to 5 points, with agreement required to increase.

Standings are back up, server glitch. :)

TheGhostmaker, sorry I haven't gotten back to you, will hit you back later today.