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Iidhaegn (111 D)
08 Aug 08 UTC
"Trivial CD"
Can we define trivial CD's? Is there a specific number that works best as a trivial CD, or is it a specific country arrangement?
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ldrut (674 D)
02 Aug 08 UTC
Draw request - For talkative people
I posted this elsewhere, but the title did not make it clear so here it is again.

http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4811

The above game was being metagamed by the English and French players who then dropped in Fall 1901 (as did Turkey). We now have new players for all three positions and if possible we request this game be restarted. If not, we request that it be drawn. I am the Italian player. I will ask the others to post their confirmation here, though they already have in the game's Global post
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number137 (817 D)
08 Aug 08 UTC
Quick question: does the "x" icon next to a player's name mean they have not finalized orders?
See subject line. (This site needs a few more docs ... ;)
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Vampiero (3525 D)
08 Aug 08 UTC
please join, 1 player needed!
the game is Spring 1901, Pre-game

* End of phase: 216 minutes
* Winner-takes-all
* 48 hours/phase: Slow
* Pot: 1200
* Players:
o Gobbledydook (1245)
o Rait (8224)
o McCain (395)
o Vampiero (4317)
o Jerkface (911)
o joao (892)

i just hate playing with CDs so i figure ill post on the forum
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hapubanishad (0 DX)
06 Aug 08 UTC
Meta-Teams
No mather if are just one guy with a lot of logins or a group of friends playing toghether. It s bad for the quality of this game.

Now Im investiganting a meta-gang:
azzaron
ZBIG
marinero
virka
ivo-ivanov

Tell me your impression if you are playing with one of this.
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DeliciousWolf (112 D)
07 Aug 08 UTC
This is Excellent: Origins and Progess of WWI - Animated Maps
This Map should look really familiar to all Dip players:
http://www.the-map-as-history.com/demos/tome06/

How the European map was redrawn after WWI - Victors and Vanquished
http://www.the-map-as-history.com/demos/tome03/
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
07 Aug 08 UTC
New game - Slower, but still fast - 90 point WTA - 11 hour phases.
Everybody welcome.
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Robbenklopper (100 D)
05 Aug 08 UTC
What is wrong with orders for England?
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4961

I definitely did not order A Edi-Lon, you can even see that NOR tried to convoy. This happens to me when I play England on a regular basis, what is wrong there, is there any way to correct this?
kestasjk (95 DMod(P))
05 Aug 08 UTC
The orders recieved by the system:
Array
(
[925445] => Array
(
[type] => Move
[toTerr] => London
)

[925444] => Array
(
[type] => Move
[toTerr] => London
)

[925443] => Array
(
[type] => Convoy
[toTerr] => Norway
)

)


Array
(
[925445] => Array
(
[type] => Move
[toTerr] => London
)

[925444] => Array
(
[type] => Move
[toTerr] => London
)

[925443] => Array
(
[type] => Convoy
[toTerr] => Norway
)

)
Zarathustra (3672 D)
05 Aug 08 UTC
ive had problems with moves coming out differently than i thought i had set within the first few moves with england and i have played with others that have said the same thing. i dont think all of us screwing up so frequently with the same country in the same range of turns is coincidental. there may be some problem here.
Zarathustra (3672 D)
05 Aug 08 UTC
for me it has always involved convoys. i dont recall what others said
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
06 Aug 08 UTC
check your finalized orders. This happens sometimes to me (not in convoys though), and it's usually because you accidentally chose the wrong option and finalized without checking.
flashman (2274 D(G))
06 Aug 08 UTC
Sevastopol to Gulf of Bothnia?

I seem to recall that one from face-to-face...
Robbenklopper (100 D)
06 Aug 08 UTC
Seriously, I am as sure as I can be that I ordered Edi to convoy to Norway. Also I have had this problem before, and I have spoken to other players that had the same error. There has to be something wrong here. Kestas, can you please have a look into the code, or see if this is reproducable?
Katsarephat (100 D)
06 Aug 08 UTC
You have to make sure you select something like the following:

The army at Edinburgh move to Norway via convoy.
AND
The fleet at Norwegian Sea convoy from Edinburgh to Norway.

In the order history, it seems you specified London instead, probably accidentally. A Edi-Lon was a theoretically possible move (because you could have had North Sea convoy from Edi-Lon), but obviously it didn't happen. So it's possible you just misclicked.

The solution to this is to make absolutely sure that all of the orders are replicated exactly between the army and the convoying fleets. e.g, if you're going from Liverpool to Spain:

The army at Liverpool move to Spain via convoy.
The fleet at Irish Sea convoy from Liverpool to Spain.
The fleet at Mid-Atlantic Ocean convoy from Liverpool to Spain.

As you can see, in all cases it says Liverpool first, then Spain second... you have to make sure that's the case.

I have played England a lot, including doing that convoy a lot, and I have never had any problems. It's just a matter of checking that your orders are consistent, and it's most certainly not the fault of the system.
kestasjk (95 DMod(P))
06 Aug 08 UTC
Robbenklopper; before any code looks at the orders data entered into the form it's logged using this code, exactly as it comes in and before any order related code has had a chance to even read it, much less change it in strange ways:
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/doc/phpDoc/__filesource/fsource_Board_Orders_boardordersorderinterface.php.html#a239

I even checked the time when the log was last modified against the access logs, to see if the file had been altered at a time when you weren't online, but nope it's a direct match

I don't know what else I can do, the logs are clear as crystal, and according to the logs all is functioning as should be.

Here are the complete logs for the order set you entered:
Array
(
[925445] => Array
(
[type] => Move
)

[925444] => Array
(
[type] => Move
)

[925443] => Array
(
[type] => Support move
)

)


Array
(
[925445] => Array
(
[type] => Move
[toTerr] => 0
)

[925444] => Array
(
[type] => Move
[toTerr] => 0
)

[925443] => Array
(
[type] => Convoy
[toTerr] => 0
)

)


Array
(
[925445] => Array
(
[type] => Move
[toTerr] => London
)

[925444] => Array
(
[type] => Move
[toTerr] => London
)

[925443] => Array
(
[type] => Convoy
[toTerr] => Norway
)

)


Array
(
[925445] => Array
(
[type] => Move
[toTerr] => London
)

[925444] => Array
(
[type] => Move
[toTerr] => London
)

[925443] => Array
(
[type] => Convoy
[toTerr] => Norway
)

)
Iidhaegn (111 D)
07 Aug 08 UTC
There are a few things I've noticed about inputting orders. Let's say I put in a move, and keep that box highlighted, then try to scroll down. The box will scroll down, rather than the screen. Sometimes this is blatant, and I'm not sure why the screen doesn't scroll. Other times it's tricky, and if I wasn't paying attention, I'd miss it.

One thing I do sometimes is to write down my orders on a piece of paper, and then hold it up next to the screen and verify that each move is exactly as I intended it to be. The paper is my way of "knowing" I did it write, because I never write something I didn't mean to. (Well, I shouldn't say never... but that's another story.)

Then, once I have all my orders input, I finalize them, and compare that to the paper. If everything's a go, then I leave it be. Otherwise I unfinalize and fix. Maybe it was the system. Maybe it was you.

The only way I can think of to make sure this never happens again would be to have anyone who plays England take screenshots of their moves as they're about to finalize them and if something wrong happens, to show it. Sure it takes a lot of time, and so forth, but what else can you do? (This last part was slightly tongue in cheek of course... :-)
dangermouse (5551 D)
07 Aug 08 UTC
"The paper is my way of "knowing" I did it write, because I never write something I didn't mean to."

Can anyone else spot what's so funny about this sentence? :)
Katsarephat (100 D)
07 Aug 08 UTC
I think he meant that he had done it written.

Tricky things, past participles.
DrOct (219 D(B))
07 Aug 08 UTC
Honestly, it seems like things like this are more likely to happen for England, not because of some glitch but because as an island power England is more likely to be entering complex moves involving convoys which are easier to screw up (since you have to very carefully coordinate all of the moves).


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reldredge (263 D)
03 Aug 08 UTC
I'm new.
Still learning the point system. Wouldn't it make sense to reward players with some points for taking over an abandoned country, rather than charging them points for joining? I'm curious how many people actually take over abandoned countries on the losing side of things. Doesn't seem worth it.
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xgongiveit2ya55 (789 D)
05 Aug 08 UTC
Draw Request: League B - Game 1
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4342

Turkey (dearmore28) will confirm
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Marinero (1993 D)
07 Aug 08 UTC
Draw Request for game 'The other way of stopping'
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4626&msgCountry=Global

Hi, we would like the game to end with a draw between Germany, Austria and Turkey.

Thanks.
M
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Iidhaegn (111 D)
07 Aug 08 UTC
Turn-based gaming
Is it addictive?

I've discovered this site called "itsyourturn.com" and I find myself frequently checking to see if it's my turn yet. Not to mention I'm constantly on this site. It's almost always one of the first things I check in the morning. I might not even be able to see the screen, and I'm still blearily trying to see if I need to respond to press, or input moves. Or just to start my brain on thinking about my next move during the course of the day. :-)

What do you guys think?
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TheMasterGamer (3491 D)
07 Aug 08 UTC
GenCon 2008
Will anyone be attending GenCon 2008 in Indianapolis next week? Will you be participating in the Diplomacy tournaments?
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Iidhaegn (111 D)
06 Aug 08 UTC
Games I've lost
Could we possibly make it so that every game that you lose gets bumped to the bottom of my current games list? Not that it really matters, but it is a little annoying to see the one game I lost always at the top of my list. :-)
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
06 Aug 08 UTC
Slow but sure again!
Slow but sure again:
a 200 point buy-in WTA.

Anyone except multiaccounters and arthurmklo can join.

(madmarx is allowed to join...)
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奥匈 (142 D)
06 Aug 08 UTC
Now players have to pay to play on playdiplomacy site. What do you say?
Here is it:
........................................................................................................
Premium members functionalities
can join an unlimited amount of games simultaneously
can create and participate in password protected games
can create and participate in "speed games"
can create and participate in "anonymous games"
can create and participate in "gunboat games"
can create and participate in variant rules games
have access to detailed statistics

Regular members restrictions
can only join 5 games simultaneously (active or pending)
can create and participate in password protected games
can not create or participate in "speed games", with deadlines being processed as soon as everyone confirms their orders
can not create or participate in "anonymous games"
can not create or participate in "gunboat games"
can not create or participate in variant rules games
don't have access to detailed statistics


As you can see, free Regular membership is already good, but Premium membership is even better!

Become a Premium Member now for only 1 EURO per month!*
.........................................................................................................

Now it is time to pay to play a variant game, hur?

I don't know if you've ever come across things like this before, but it is the first time I heard a diplomacy website ask players to pay for playing diplomacy games. I have to say it's hard for me to understand.

So I was wondering what are your thoughts on this?



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DaveMorano (560 D)
07 Aug 08 UTC
strangeness.
I noticed that this game was won by thesaurus for 8 centers.
Is this a new rule in diplomacy? "If (user == thesaurus && playing(england)) then
win = 8 centers"? If it were a draw. Shouldn't the screen say "drawn"?

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4947
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El_Perro_Artero (707 D)
04 Aug 08 UTC
This forum is a mess!
Here's what I usually see:
1. Metagaming Complaints
2. Questions on the rules (9/10 of which are answered in the rules page)
3. Requests for draws and such
4. Pandora/Sicarius threads
5. Legitimate threads on interesting topics (ie. Satirical Maps of WWI)

Maybe a hierarchy and organization could be established? (Example: http://www.hobbitcentral.com/smf/index.php [sorry about the self-promotion :-) ]) Please discuss
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
06 Aug 08 UTC
New game - SLOWER, BUT STILL FAST - 11 hour phases, 90 point WTA.
everybody welcome.
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Sun_Tzu (2116 D)
06 Aug 08 UTC
Problem with the program.
In the game (4600) "SummerGame" France with through fall with four SC's but keeped his five units. There is a problem.
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Rait (10151 D(S))
06 Aug 08 UTC
CD to take over in nopress game - a very good position
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4776
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fraushai (1781 D)
04 Aug 08 UTC
How cheaters win on phpdip
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4692
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escaped (233 D)
05 Aug 08 UTC
Strength - Convoy
hello,
i moved a army via convoy from st. Peterburg to Schweden. As i know the official rules this move should have the strength of 2. But i did not get the supply-center after the fight against germany.

so is it a Bug or did i missed something?

Game: http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4943
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Breskur (100 D)
06 Aug 08 UTC
Game for new players
I have set up a game Newbie-3 not just for new players but ideally so that we can start a game together and learn as we go along.
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Rait (10151 D(S))
06 Aug 08 UTC
Some CD-s to take over in a fast game!
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4941

Please join!
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Pandora (100 D)
06 Aug 08 UTC
sorry for the cd
I've been hitching across michigan, now I'm in ann arbor 1st chance I've had to get on
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DeliciousWolf (112 D)
05 Aug 08 UTC
Curious Question: How are the Profile Rankings determined?
Is it based on points or win percentage or something?
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Nathaniel Lewis (126 D)
05 Aug 08 UTC
Going CD
I'm playing a game as Germany, and have been thoroughly beaten by just about everyone under the sun, to the point where the only territory I had left was Holland.
When I logged on the next day, I realized that I had gone CD in the game, and was notified that I hadn't logged on in two turns. When I looked at the game and checked the history, I saw that I had indeed missed one turn, but should not have gone CD.

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4732 is the game, for any clarification.

Are there any other reasons, beyond leaving, for going CD?
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nitish (2087 D(S))
05 Aug 08 UTC
Potential bug with orders?
In the game "And I think to myself... what a wonderful world", this is the second time that an order for one of my units hasn't been carried out. See post below for details.

The game is at http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4761
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Centurian (3257 D)
05 Aug 08 UTC
Civil Disorder Record
I recently went to a cottage and my housemate didn't cover my games as frequently as he should have and I went into CD for a couple of games. I am now sitting with two games which I'm losing (the good ones were bought up) in which I can reclaim as soon as I can post orders.

However, upon looking at my record it seems like it isn't in my interest to keep playing these games because I will certainly be eliminated and they will come up as defeats. However, if I don't rejoin its like those games never happened. This seems to promote losers going into CD to protect their record.

Can we have a gone into CD row on their record/profile?
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