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johnsmith177693 (124 D)
11 Feb 17 UTC
New Game Idea: No Lying
See below
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Matticus13 (2844 D)
16 Feb 17 UTC
Alternative French Openings
I'm not a huge fan of playing as France. To be honest, it bores me compared to Germany or Austria. We just had a solid thread on Italian strategy, specifically unexpected opening strategies. What opening(s) have you tried that varied from the norm, and what was the result?
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Hauta (1618 D(S))
15 Feb 17 UTC
Armies and Fleets -- How about airplanes too?
I looked online for discussion of Airplane units to augment Armies and Fleets. I didn't see much -- probably my fault. Anyway, I was thinking that the following should apply:
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SuperMario0727 (204 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
Incorporating WWI Strategies Into Diplomacy: Could It Work?
Diplomacy is set in WWI. Even though it is up to players to play how they like, might it be sensible and feasible to incorporate real-world strategies and plans from WWI into the game? For example, could Germany try the Schlieffen Plan against France? Should Italy go straight for Trieste, as it did in WWI? And should Russia seek to defend Serbia against Austria-Hungary? Thoughts?
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mitomon (511 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
Putin Thread
We have a Trump Thread,so this seems fitting as I believe Russia will be newsworthy for quite a bit. I'll start you guys off: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-deploys-missile-violating-treaty-and-challenging-trump/ar-AAmVID5?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
15 Feb 17 UTC
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What's the difference between these threads? I don't understand.
Ogion (3882 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
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How about "Russia deploys cruise missile in violation of treaty"

http://www.salon.com/2017/02/15/official-russia-has-deployed-missile-in-violation-of-treaty/
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
As far as I am concerned, it's my opinion that V Putin is a despicable criminal. Thief and murderer... multiple times for both offences
JamesYanik (548 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
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any criticisms of Trump you can Putin here
mitomon (511 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
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@MajorMitchell I agree whole-heartedly.
@JamesYanik I see we're all Russian to the puns now
JamesYanik (548 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
I don't know why the others were Stalin
mitomon (511 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
Maybe if you gave them some time to reply, they would get top Marx
JamesYanik (548 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
that's a terrible pun, it's truly Volga
mitomon (511 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
No,no. That one was horrible. They shouldn't even be Lenin you post anymore.
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
15 Feb 17 UTC
Funny i felt i was Lenin to the left, but i straightened up and Marx'ed on.
slypups (1889 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
Just Putin retaliating for the US getting rid of Flynn. If the Trump administration removes any more Russian insiders, Russia will continue to deploy more missiles. If Trump goes back to kowtowing to Russia by putting key Russian lackeys/mouthpieces/sympathizers in positions of authority, then Russia will play nicely.
slypups (1889 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
If Trump resigns, Putin starts WWIII.
JamesYanik (548 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
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that wasn't a pun at ALLLLL
mitomon (511 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
Well according to the sources @slypups, this missile business started three years ago when Obama was president. I think it's just Russia being Russia, like when it stabbed Ukraine and took over Crimea. They said a unit in Crimea support move'd them, but again, it's Russia.
@JamesYanik Since that annexation, Russia seems to have a lot more CRIMEa.
slypups (1889 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
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For @JamesYanik: Everyone knows Trump actually does not get along with the Russian president because it's always Putin on the Ritz instead of Trump Towers.
JamesYanik (548 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
@mitomon

the puns are now done. the fact this site does not have a -1 button is now becoming it's most apparent flaw. can a modern civilized society forgive you for your crimes? time will only tell. we can only pray that people do no repeat these puns, so that no more casualties of such atrocities shall arise.

mitomon (511 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
@jamesyanik you mean my crimeas?
JamesYanik (548 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
*reaches down throat, strangles self with duodenum, reincarnates as a zombie, begins infecting people throughout the midwest, gov't responds with massive austerity measures destroying the global economy, meanwhile vampires return to former might, gets bitten by vampire, becomes a hybrid zombievamp, proceeds to destroy vampire nests nationwide, humanity close to extinction during the chaos, radical vegan extremists begin taking over world, slowly other animals begin to evolve, nearby aliens sense the anarchy and begin invasion plans, eventually an alliance is formed between the otter people, the last humans and myself, massive consumption of human remains has created me to swell to the size of a ghostbuster's metaphorical twinkie, aliens begin invasion, i nobly sacrifice myself as i'm catapulted at the mothership, the otters betray the last vegans, maintain control of the earth, because of the damage the earth's magnetic field is weakened, and a massive solar storm slowly envelopes earth, in a basement in northern previously occupied India, a man logs onto his computer and messages the otters. this man's username is mitomon. The otters know he about to make a pun, and not wanting to let humans have the last word, they message him quickly, telling to Soviet.*





that got out of hand, i'm not going to lie.
slypups (1889 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
Wow, JY. You know I was thinking the exact same thing! Except I had it as "reanimates" as a zombie, not "reincarnates." Otherwise, same thing.
fiedler (1293 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
2017 and communists and fellow travelers are now rabidly anti-Russian because CNN tells them to be. It's a long strange trip, comrade. I can hardly bear it.
JamesYanik (548 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
@slypups

i suppose your terminology would be more accurate, UNLESS... i reincarnated into a separate body which was then zombie... so my body is still out there... GUY I CAN STILL MAKE IT SOMEBODY GET ME SOME VAMPIRE BLOOD
slypups (1889 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
Question is, if you reincarnated as a zombie - who was in the zombie body before you entered it, and what happened to that guy? Did he suddenly transfer into your corpse as a dead person?
JamesYanik (548 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
good question... maybe he got reincarnated into the otter king (they're a monarchal people) which means i am by intra-dimensional blood related to the royal throne.

someone call CNN
slypups (1889 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
@JY - CNN wants your digits to follow up on this story.
JamesYanik (548 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
they'll have to cut them off my dead lifeless recently reanimated hands first!!!
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
Hoorah, I had a good laugh at some of those pins, and it's good to have a bit of fun here in the forum. On a serious note, regarding Putin. I disliked his methods and attempts to make himself a dictator. His oppression of any free press/ media in Russia is a disgrace. But it's the dirty game he has played in the Ukraine, and now in Syria as well. The tragic loss of innocent lives in the crash of that Malaysian Airlines jet is something I hold Putin responsible for, so it is my opinion that Putin is a multiple murderer. He's amassed a personal fortune estimated at about $US 40 billion. How many people have suffered as a result of the actions of Putin ? I'd suggest it's hundreds of thousands, millions. That dog Putin deserves to spend eternity in hell, imho. Regrettably we have to make compromises and negotiate with the dog, but let's never forget just how evil the man is.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
15 Feb 17 UTC
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@MM putin didn't do anything dirty in Sytia, he supported the Assad Regime, in a way the US and her allies refused to support the opposition.

He direct support will end the civil war with a victory for the Assad government. (Iranian backing helped too). But it is no more 'dirty' than the (US-led) invasion of Iraq, or anything else NATO has done.

You want dirty, look at how Turkey has been trading weapons for oil with ISIS. At least allowing Syrian 'rebels' cross the border to sell oil and buy weapons... But not the Kurds, because Turkey cares a lot more about her own security issues than it does about the grand strategy of the US.
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
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Putin's game in syria is to support his puppet who is increasingly isolated and dependant on putin, eliminate the moderates and present the Western powers with a limited choice, his puppet, or the extremists, and his forces now control a major Syrian naval base with access to the Mediterranean. Putin is willing to sacrifice as many syrians as it takes to further his ambitions. It's his air force that carpet bombs indiscriminately, that targets moderates.
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
It's a bit like the way MAO fought the Americans in Vietnam.. He didn't care how many Vietnamese were killed fighting the Americans, isn't there a famous MAO quote where he said he was quite happy to fight the Americans until the last Vietnamese was dead
mitomon (511 D)
16 Feb 17 UTC
I thought you were talking about Mid Atlantic Ocean for some reason...
slypups (1889 D)
16 Feb 17 UTC
Yes, MAO also has been viciously attacking Portugal, the English Channel, Brest, Spain (both coasts), and the Western Mediterranean for as long as I can remember. His actions have net been restricted to east Asia.
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
16 Feb 17 UTC
Oh that's just the asinine self correcting software, changing Mao to MAO
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
16 Feb 17 UTC
I think the chap with the player name Chairman Meow, created a clever, witty player name
fiedler (1293 D)
16 Feb 17 UTC
must... resist...urge...insult...major...mfker...
fiedler (1293 D)
16 Feb 17 UTC
Chairman meow is off the Simpsons or some such refuse.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
16 Feb 17 UTC
It is teally weird that you're conparing this to China in Vietnam.

The only thing i knew was about the Sino-Vietnamese Conflict of 1979. Where China basically was worried that Vietnam was becoming a regional power, and backing the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia as a Chinese proxy to challenge Vietnam for regional power.

Of course the Khmer Rouge attack Vietnam, and as a result the Vietnamese end the reign of the Khmer Rouge and China invaded Vietnam (which after beating the French and the Americans, was a mistake... The Vietnamese have beaten more world powers invading them than anyone else i can think of)

Byt it goes to show, Mao was more worried about Vietnam as a potential independent power in South East Asia, than looking at a communist ally. (Even if he did want meddling Inperialist, like the French and Americans successfully ousted)

Syria is different. Ok both could be seen as civil wars, but the South Vietnam puppet government is more like Assad's regime, so again it seems more appropriate to compare Putin to the US.

Second the opposition it not united, the communists in North Vietnam were all in it together. In Syria the Free Syrian Army (probably joined the opposition because of promises of material support from the US which never followed through). The Sunni militants joined the opposition because they could see the tide turning and Saudi Arabia wanted a new Sunni ally - and ISIS (seperate from Al-Quaeda affiliates) decided to invade/cross the border because things were going so badly for them in Iraq. (Never mind the Kurds, who haven't declared independence, and from what little i can tell have just protected themselves while the government pulled out of Kurdish territory)

As for claims of carpet bombing, i'm sire that russian bombing is a little less precise, but i'm also sure thry could have reduced Alleppo to rubble if their airforce had gone in full force - think the fire bombing of Dresden. But i don't really know.

orathaic (1009 D(B))
16 Feb 17 UTC
(Ok, my information on Syria seems to be way out of date)

On Vietnam this: http://www.usefulhistorian.com/2014/03/06/dont-forget-chinas-role-in-the-vietnam-war/

Who knows what the SDF is, and when the US started deoying troops to Syria?


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Peregrine Falcon (9010 D(S))
08 Feb 17 UTC
Rules Question
It's a bit of a convoluted situation, but I'm actually confused about why WebDip adjudicated the way it did.

I've never made a rules question thread before in all the years I've played Diplomacy. How exciting.
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Condescension (10 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
Is this ethical?
Let's say I have a stalemate position, it's DSS, and I can eliminate players without risking anything at all, increasing my share of the pot.
Is it ethical to let those players live?
Does this change if it's anon or not anon?
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pastoralan (100 D)
14 Feb 17 UTC
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A thought on Empires...
How many people realize that "Emperor" is supposed to mean "direct heir to Augustus Caesar?"
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aatstarr (285 D)
16 Feb 17 UTC
New Live Game
Who's up for a classic this evening?

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=191888
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SuperMario0727 (204 D)
13 Feb 17 UTC
North Africa & North Atlantic Ocean: The Oddities of the Board.
Not all territories in Diplomacy are created equally. Some are more useful than others. Territories such as North Africa and North Atlantic Ocean are often left vacant, especially at the start of the game. However, can anybody think of a useful and good reason for a player to enter either of these territories? In what situations might either of these territories prove useful?
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Mapu (362 D)
13 Feb 17 UTC
Home Page HTML/CSS Error
It appears that when someone took the banner down, the CSS style for the header separator got messed up.
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Carebear (100 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
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Online Diplomacy Champhionship - Round 1 Deadline SOON
Read here: http://www.playdiplomacy.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=797
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
07 Feb 17 UTC
Young game, need an Austria
gameID=191037

FP, DSS, Classic
24 Hour/phase. Please join.
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brainbomb (290 D)
13 Feb 17 UTC
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Mustard invades White Bread
Historically what kinds of strategies are there for delicious sandwiches with mustard as the main flavor.
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brainbomb (290 D)
14 Feb 17 UTC
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50 shades of grey violates Geneva Conventions
I think its a shame we are sexualizing and romanticizing torture. I believe that at the time these novels came out; they directly helped normalize waterboarding and guantanamo bay.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
11 Feb 17 UTC
Yemen
In our continuing series on what makes America Great. Yemen.

Mostly i'd like to discuss the morality, or what *should* be happening in Yemen today.
(For some decent background see: https://youtu.be/CwwP3SiBIC8 )
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peterwiggin (15158 D)
13 Feb 17 UTC
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Turkish strategy thread
Seriously guys, stop baiting each other and somebody teach me how to play Turkey. I lost all my press games as Turkey in 2016.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
14 Feb 17 UTC
When leaks are just?
https://mobile.twitter.com/cgreensit/status/831573047962386432/photo/1
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SuperMario0727 (204 D)
13 Feb 17 UTC
Italy Opening Strategy: Early Attack on France?
Venice goes to Piedmont, Rome goes to Tuscany, and Naples goes to Tyrrhenian Sea. If France moved Marseilles to Spain, he will be forced to take a guess at whether Italy will enter Marseilles or leave it vacant. If Spain re-enters Marseilles, France will have a slow start against Italy. And if Italy gets into Marseilles and Tunis, he will get two builds. Thoughts?
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Hannibal76 (100 D(B))
13 Feb 17 UTC
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Where'd the new rules come from?
I usually try to stay updated on what people talk about in the forum daily. Recently I haven't been able to and I came back to find that their are new rules regarding how shitty we can be to each other on the forum. I understand that there was a thread that was so bad the mods felt the need to make more rules. Anyone care to tell me what was said that was bad enough to warrant this?
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stupidfighter (253 D)
13 Feb 17 UTC
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Daily All Topic Thread
Please make all forum posts here and only here.
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SuperMario0727 (204 D)
13 Feb 17 UTC
St. Petersburg to Findland: Should Russia Ever Make This Move?
The title says it all: is there ever a situation or scenario in which Russia should move his fleet in St. Petersburg (South Coast) to Finland? What kind of diplomatic arrangements need to be made for such a move to occur?
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
13 Feb 17 UTC
Historical Muslim Invasions of Europe
Poiters, the Siege of Vienna, Fall of Constantinople. Let's talk some old European history, and how the world was shaped as a result
29 replies
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
07 Feb 17 UTC
What are 'the ideals America has stood for'
Given certain interviews, and unstated assumptions, i guess i want to ask what is unstated (if you don't know the background to this see: https://youtu.be/b2M9TE7ZJCI )
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brainbomb (290 D)
12 Feb 17 UTC
What is the coolest fantasy realm map?
Westeros vs. Middle Earth vs. Skyrim vs. Ansalon vs. (Add any others here)
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
12 Feb 17 UTC
TotalCon in Marlborough, MA Feb 24th-26th
There's still time to sign up for the Diplomacy Grand Prix at TotalCon!
http://www.totalcon.com
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
13 Feb 17 UTC
Muslims invading Europe
What are your best Turkey strategies?
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Jamiet99uk (865 D)
13 Feb 17 UTC
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White Christians invading Muslim Lands
What are your best strategies for defeating Turkey in Diplomacy?
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SuperMario0727 (204 D)
13 Feb 17 UTC
Austro-Hungarian-Turkish Alliance: Just for Fun? Or Turkish Delight?
Turkey and Austria-Hungary work together against Russia, with a passive Italian player. Turkey moves into Bulgaria, Black Sea, and Armenia. And Austria-Hungary moves into Rumania and Galicia. Is this just pure fantasy? Or will Austria-Hungary and Turkey be treating themselves to Turkish delight by the end of it?
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Egathetos (207 D)
13 Feb 17 UTC
Newb Question
I occupy province A with an army and I had province C (not an SC) but now it lies without an army. Between A and C is province B with an enemy army who is ready to strike province C. A and C don't share border.
If I stike B from A, do I stop him from taking C?
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