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Jeff Kuta (2066

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04 Jul 14 UTC

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Feature: Min/Max DipPoints for New Games

How about being able to create new games restricted to players joining based on their max or min amount of DipPoints?

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Diplomacy questions

So, these are pretty basic questions, and I'm sure they've been asked before, so forgive me for asking them again.

semck83 (229 )
03 Jul 14 UTC

I've always understood that the reasoning behind stopping when somebody gets to 18 centers is that they could force all 34 then. This motivates the following questions.

1) Is it true that somebody with 18 centers can always force a victory? Has anybody checked that every possible combination of 18 centers would lead to a forced victory? Is there an easy way to see/check this?

2) Is there ANY combination of *17* centers, and some credible distribution of the accompanying 17 units, such that NO distribution of 17 defensive units could prevent victory?

3) (Only if the answer to 2 is yes). What about 16? What's the smallest number of centers you can have and (in some configuration) have a forced victory? What's the largest number of centers you could have and not be able to force 34?

Yaniv (1323 )
03 Jul 14 UTC

Please understand, you are speaking with someone who owns the original board game, has all the original pieces and the original instructions. Your presumption is that with 18 supply centres, you are unconquerable. I suggest that the presumption is false. I contend that the reason that one wins with 18 is because there has to be some measure of a win and having a majority of SCs is as good a measure any. Furthermore, having played past the 18 SC mark the old fashioned way, play simply becomes uninteresting for both the dominant power and for the remaining players.

It is not impossible to have secured 18 SCs in one given turn only to lose multiple SCs in future phases.

Cheers!

zultar (4180 )
03 Jul 14 UTC

I'm fairly certain that it is possible to have 18 center and not force a complete victory. I think it would be most efficient to find the smallest stalemate spots and work from there. I'm doing some actual work today, so I won't have as much time, but if you are really interested, uclabb, The Hanged Man, or Split would be some very good people who can answer your question.

Tru Ninja (1016 )
03 Jul 14 UTC

There's a stalemated line that divides the board into an 18-16 scenario, so yes, it is possible to have 18 centers and be stalemated from earning all 34.

y2kjbk (4846 )
03 Jul 14 UTC

England can block off a 32-center italy/austria/turkey with 4 fleets stationed at Portugal, MAO, NAO, and the Channel, as long as the 32-center nation has no fleets north of MAO.

Jeff Kuta (2066 )
03 Jul 14 UTC

There are defensible stalemate positions that require fewer than 17 supply centers. Because those are impossible to crack, simply requiring more than half the available ones to declare victory is sufficient.

semck83 (229 )
03 Jul 14 UTC

Thank you -- good to know!

y2k, how could England have 4 fleets if Italy has 32 centers?

steephie22 (182 )
03 Jul 14 UTC

Very good question... :-)

Tru Ninja (1016 )
03 Jul 14 UTC

with wicked voodoo

y2kjbk (4846 )
03 Jul 14 UTC

i meant 30

Tru Ninja (1016 )
03 Jul 14 UTC

I can personally stop a 33 center guy who is taking sitting in the 34th center in the Spring with one unit with a jugular punch--it's much easier if the player is an old frail woman.

President Eden (2750 )
03 Jul 14 UTC

Yeah as already mentioned, England and Portugal locks up the Atlantic with 4 centers so 18 sc =\= victory

yebellz (729 )
04 Jul 14 UTC

There are a lot of stalemate positions that hold less than 17 SCs
http://www.diplom.org/Online/StalematesAtoY/visual.htm

I think the purpose of ending at 18 SCs is not due to the assumption that one can always take the whole board, but rather the opposite in that taking the entire board is often not feasible.

The Hanged Man (4160 )
04 Jul 14 UTC

Watch out, Tru. You're going to scare away prospective old frail woman web dip players.

CommanderByron (801 )
04 Jul 14 UTC

@ Tru- we all know we need women on the site.

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03 Jul 14 UTC

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Replacement Egypt needed at game start

We haven't started but our Egypt got banned
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=144117

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OutsideSmoker27 (204

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03 Jul 14 UTC

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We're not who we appear to be: something good, bad, or indifferent?

The anonymity that is inherent in message boards like this and the consequent increased boldness or recklessness with which most of us are apt to behave as compared to how we would behave in our "real" lives leads me to wonder out loud: at what point, if ever, does this presentation of a sort of alternate personality constitute lying? And if it is a form of lying, does it matter?

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SandgooseXXI (113

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03 Jul 14 UTC

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May it stay forever strong

Interpret the above statement below:

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01 Jul 14 UTC

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zultar, the american, is missing the point.

I actually SUPPORT my american neighbors and envy their freedom.

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03 Jul 14 UTC

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Two units bounce

SO two units Bounce each other in a territory, say Munich and Burgundy bounce in Rurh during Autumn of 1904, can another unit, say Belgium or Kiel then retreat into that Territory during the Retreats Phase of Autumn 1904.

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For forum users, please read this here thread.

It's way better than the other one. lol.

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Well I for one am glad they're dead.

Peter Allen and Gwynne Owen - hope you don't rest in peace.

In my opinion hanging was too good for them, maybe the electric chair would have been more fitting.

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02 Jul 14 UTC
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WebDiplomacy Community & Freedom of Speech

Please read.

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CommanderByron (801

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02 Jul 14 UTC
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College

So I am a high school graduate, and a college student come august. While I am aware of the benefits to college; I am curious as to how college or lack there of has affected anyone else. Looking for more perspective.

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03 Jul 14 UTC
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You Guys....

I love you guys. All of you. No. Really! I do!! <smooches>

Here's to a brighter, kinder me...

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02 Jul 14 UTC

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The Quantum Shift

...<chew on this>...

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03 Jul 14 UTC

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Help for the Overly Sensitive

I a further effort to help those insensitive...er...I mean overly sensitive virgin eyes that enjoy this blessed place, please avail yourself of this wonderful protective gear:
http://www.woot.com/offers/protect-yourself-1?ref=cnt_wp_9_3

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SantaClausowitz (360

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02 Jul 14 UTC

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Changing your mind

Is it a sign of weakness or strength.

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abgemacht (1076

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02 Jul 14 UTC

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Need A Replacement For France

I'm looking for an active, respected player to partner with the remaining French player in our Dummy trial game (gameID=143236). If you aren't familiar with this game, each country has 2 players that equally share control (press, moves, etc). Let me know if you're interested.

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30 Jun 14 UTC

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Ramadan

Anyone else doing this? I was challenged by my Muslim friends at work, damn I'm hungry.

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02 Jul 14 UTC
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Whiny-A** B*tches!!

http://online.wsj.com/articles/new-york-court-strikes-down-cyberbullying-law-1404239912?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories

That's right, you are all a bunch of whiny ass bitches and there's not a damned thing you can do about it. Suck on that :P

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2014 - 7 games wta series

As the initial thread is closed but the tournament is still running, here a new thread for general tournament announcements, pause requests, ranking, ...
Let's keep this one alive

Old thread: http://www.webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?viewthread=1092719#1092719

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FineRedMist (108

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Who's the least intelligent puppy-kicking child-fucker on this forum?

A) Draugnar
B) krellin
C) ssorenn
D) FineRedMist

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02 Jul 14 UTC

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Nice game if you're interested

Don't know if this is spam or not, not selling paintings or anything - just a recommendation.

Link and description below:

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30 Jun 14 UTC

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Hobby Lobby

The US Supreme Court has just (ten minutes ago) upheld Hobby Lobby's right, under religious conscience, not to provide contraception coverage to its employees.

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13-354_olp1.pdf

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Jamiet99uk (865

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Proportionate response?

Earlier this month, three Israeli teenagers went missing in the occupied West Bank. Israeli authorities allege that Hamas abducted them. Hamas has stated that this is untrue and that they are not responsible.

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29 Jun 14 UTC

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Cuba

Has anybody been? Is it this bad?

http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/sunday-commentary/20140627-the-last-communist-city.ece

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abgemacht (1076

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True Friends Stab You In The Front EOG

gameID=142294

Thanks for the game, everyone. Not particularly well played by myself; I made at least 2 serious blunders and probably should have been eliminated, but it was still great fun.

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01 Jul 14 UTC

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sitter needed

i'm going on a 4 day camping trip (against my will by the way) next week starting monday. Please post if you can.

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23 Jun 14 UTC

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7 player, 7 games series (gunboat)

Just looking for 6 other players. The goal will be to have 7 games with the same 7 players. Been done many times, I know. I'll be scrutinizing the people, so only decent players (no noobs, sorry).

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President Eden (2750

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Mafia General Discussion Thread

Single-thread resource for discussion of mafia games on webDiplomacy. Please remember not to comment in here about specific ongoing games!

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President Eden (2750

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Can we stop with the hate circlejerk threads?

This is as a member of the community not a mod, but there's been two threads today calling out specific members and inviting flaming. It's really old and just degrades the forum discourse. Please stop? Thanks <3

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Jamiet99uk (865

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23 Jun 14 UTC

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Anti-jokes

Let's have your best anti-jokes. Here are a few:

Q: Why didn't Jesus play hockey?
A: Because baseball and soccer are much more popular sports in Mexico.

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