which is to say frequently a good deal more efficient than the private sector. After all, they don't have to siphon off a ton of money to feed their overpaid CEOs and shareholders.

nope, just to feed overpaid state workers with obscene pensions, throw millions into pork barrel black holes

big businesses aren't perfectly efficient but it's a joke to act like the federal government is more efficient on the whole than the private sector

@Ogion ... Here is someplace you may want to start to improve your grasp of the situation: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088930/

Ogion - wow, you truly are an uneducated moron, aren't you. The Federal government IS the fucking siphon, you fucktard. They take money from the States, churn it through their paperwork, and then often deliver the reduced money back to the states....whereupon the States take their cut, and finally deliver a fraction back to you. OFTEN TIME (wait for it....) the States willl (wait for it....) turn to the PRIVATE SECTOR then to deliver a more efficient product, such as road building.

Good lord, will you fucking sheep ever open your damned eyes. Moron...

Krelin - do you think he could benefit from my link?

sigh

forget i said anything, i'm stepping out of this impending shitfest

The words "Common Core" haven't come up yet in the given responses... we're that good at staying on topic.

Go back to the old system of promote all the idiot students until they graduate and it's some one else's problem. The public school system is there to babysit them to keep them off the streets.

Now in Arizona the public school system has found a way to regain budget funds going to charter schools by converting themselves to charters. The state is fighting back from having to properly fund their own school system.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/2014/03/25/arizona-bill-regulating-districts-schools-charters/6888391/

I don't have a link to when they started the charter schools with no oversight or legal requirement that the money go to educate students. The first few years had millions going to scam artists starting schools and pocketing most of the money.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

The federal government has no business in any classroom. That is all.

@krellin
As always, you've provided a lucid, measured analysis on the matter at hand.

Outside - you may dislike my style, but to deny that absolute stupidity of the moron to whom I was replying is impossible. the Federal Government is a *siphon* -- it is a layer that extracts money from every process, but provides very few direct services...therefore by it's very nature it is anything BUT efficient, by design.

The sheep that think otherwise are simply a product of the federal educational system that pushes the pro-government curriculum down to your schools that is rotting his brain...

VB - re: link - hmmm...much too confusing for the poor boy, I'm afraid, though the notion that there is no singular outcome - no absolutes, no right or wrong - should appeal to the victims of our modern education system, where feelings are more important than progress, as eh can simply choose his ending and continue his fantasy that such will be his life. The cold hard facts, on the other hand, is that there is but one murderer and one alone...just as there is but one certain outcome for one so void of any intellectual capacity.

Anyway, given the amount of time my kids waste in school watching movies, I'm not certain that he hasn't already seen it...probably in math class.

re: movies in school.....for example, my daughter told me just last week that they watched GATTACA in biology class as some sort of tie in to a lesson on genetics....Good fucking lord....god help us...