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Durga (3609 D)
27 Jan 17 UTC
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Daily Trump News Thread
Instead of having 17 threads each time he does something new, let's have this one so anyone that doesn't want to deal with Trump can just mute it! (ps is it possible to self mute?)
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b1wein (100 D)
01 Aug 17 UTC
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I am just amazed America elected this doofus. (I'm from America, dissapointed in us)
b1wein (100 D)
01 Aug 17 UTC
We are at a point right now where Spicer is the most qualified comm director in this administration
Jamiet99uk (865 D)
01 Aug 17 UTC
@Michael_B:

My political compass says:

Economic Left/Right: -8.0
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.51
michael_b (192 D)
01 Aug 17 UTC
Wow. Mine was betwixt blue and purple. Most progressives are green.
Manwe Sulimo (325 D)
01 Aug 17 UTC
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I'm blue da ba dee da ba die
Zach0805 (100 D)
01 Aug 17 UTC
I just wanna know if he's planning to sign new Russian sanctions he can't be friendly to Russia now
Fluminator (1500 D)
01 Aug 17 UTC
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Go Russia! Screw America at this point honestly.
TrPrado (461 D)
01 Aug 17 UTC
"Have y'all taken the PoliticalCompass.Org Test?"

Political Compass is for political normies. The Nolan Chart and spekr.org are much better.
michael_b (192 D)
01 Aug 17 UTC
Normie?! >:(
Ok ill try ur stupid chart.
*saltiness above the limittt*
Randomizer (722 D)
01 Aug 17 UTC
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/31/politics/white-house-police-tough-suspects/index.html

White House is now denying that Trump was serious about police brutality to gangs. This is the same Trump that is being sued for saying at campaign rallies to attack anti-Trump protestors and by those that did the attacking that Trump hasn't paid their legal bills like he said he would.

Maybe he should have an aide follow him around with a giant neon sign saying, "It's a joke" or something similar.
peterlund (1310 D(G))
01 Aug 17 UTC
So you never get tired of talking about that traitor clown of yours? It's all just hilarious. What a circus!
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
01 Aug 17 UTC
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I have no issue with a little police brutality if they actually take down some major gangs in the process, the Maras especially. It's about time the federal government took notice of them.
Durga (3609 D)
01 Aug 17 UTC
Agh stop fucking talking bo
Smeetheens (100 D)
01 Aug 17 UTC
I did both politicalcompass and spekr, here is what I got:
Politicalcompass: I no longer have the original score, just the image, but an approximation would be x=-8.4,y=-7.6
Spekr: Economic -78, Cultural -83, Libertarian Socialist.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
01 Aug 17 UTC
You should see what they do to people and get back to me, DO. The worst police officers don't even come close to the weakest members of MS. It's disgraceful that their compounds in this country don't get shut down the moment we catch a whiff of them.
TrPrado (461 D)
02 Aug 17 UTC
"I have no issue with a little police brutality if they actually take down some major gangs in the process"

Do you want their cases thrown out? Because that's how you get their cases thrown out.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
02 Aug 17 UTC
I hear there is a correlation between police brutality and people who don't make it to court. If they want to go down the rabbit hole with the trial, though, I don't think a judge will have a hard time believing that people in the most brutal active gang in the United States would have just set their weapons down and gone in quietly.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
02 Aug 17 UTC
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I know, lets forgo fair trials entirely, and just have gamgs of police officers 'patrolling' each and every neighbourhood, engaging in a bit of brutality againsy which ever gangs they find... What could go wrong?
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
02 Aug 17 UTC
It's hard to speak about such things rationally when the only thing you present is biased hyperbole.

A "fair trial" is a luxury reserved for people that do not maim, torture, and systematically exterminate people for as little as holding them up while making a turn at an intersection. Once you start doing that, the gloves come off for the sake of each and every one of us. If you get raided and blitzed and don't make it to your trial after fighting back, I don't fucking care.

This isn't a conversation about "gamgs" of police officers. It's simply a conversation about "gamgs." Once you use the same terms to describe police officers as you do the Maras, or the Bloods, or Crips, or the LKN, or whatever "gamg" you would prefer to let live on to terrorize another neighborhood for another day, you lose all credibility you ever could have had in this conversation.

Police officers are not criminals simply because the pick up a badge and a gun. They do not live and breathe waiting for their moment to kill an innocent person. Those that do should be and are being weeded out of service, one way or another, and while the judicial system is pathetic in this country at convicting cops when they do wrong, the vast, vast majority of cops couldn't stomach the thought of hurting someone that doesn't deserve it. They do, though, live and breathe for opportunities to take out an organization that regularly threatens the lives of the people they swear to protect and serve. When one of those opportunities arises, by all means, they should be perfectly entitled to take it.

Since you have obviously never lived in, visited, or even seen an area that is plagued by gang violence, you should be aware that "gamgs of police officers" patrolling the streets sounds like a dream. In most of these neighborhoods, there is already a massive police presence, as there should be, but they concentrate their efforts into certain spaces. It's sort of like a farmer's market in Jerusalem - there's someone in uniform with a gun, because it's a setting with a lot of people, but is that necessarily going to help? No - maybe it's just going to move the action somewhere else. See a McDonalds? There's gonna be a cop there. Headed to school in the morning? Oh yeah, there's gonna be a few cops there, and there's gonna be a bucket at the office for students to toss their switchblades in, you know, since now they have police protection from the rampant gang violence. On the street, though? No. There are police, and they may patrol the streets, but their goal each and every morning is to play damage control, not to stop the problem. They don't engage with the community, they don't have the opportunity to catch criminals in the act, and they don't take down the people who run the whole show. This is where the problem lies with our enforcement of gangs in the first place. Having boots on the ground and people who can do what they need to do in order to protect the people that they are responsible for protecting would be the first major step in stopping the violence and reengaging law enforcement officers who have forgotten just how badly their community needs them and members of the community who have forgotten just how helpful law enforcement can be when they are allowed to fulfill their responsibilities.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
02 Aug 17 UTC
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Where i live the cops (na Gardaí in irish, called the guards as a bastardisation of that irish) don't carry weappns as standard, a little relic of our civil war. Only the specialist armed responce units carry weapons. It builds trust with the community, the people don't fear the guards, because they hang around and chat to you. They are members of the community not an imposing force from outside - of course the fact thatmost everyone else doesn't carry a gun helps too; no second amendment to fight with. It feels really weird and intimidating to come actoss police in other countries with guns. Recently in Denmark (on a Jamboree with 37,000 scouts, there was armed police..) you just automatically try to avoid them. And that doesn't help with police work. If everyone fears the police, nobody talks to them. Nobody risks reporting a crime when *some* polive have shown up and shot the person who called them - as recently happened in the US. When the state sanctioned violence is seen as a bigger threat to your community than the local gangs, people will turn to those gangs for protection. Whether that is mafia, or in Ireland the IRA (who used to punish drug pushers in Northern Ireland with knee cappings, and you went to them because you were Catholic and didn't trust the RUC). Ideally you don't encourage police brutality, because it divides society, it empowers police officers to act like criminals, and it breaks any trust between police and local communities which is necessary for actual police work. Of course violent gangs may become an epidemic of violence, and like any epidemic, there are public health measures which should be taken. See - https://www.ted.com/talks/gary_slutkin_let_s_treat_violence_like_a_contagious_disease/up-next
Jamiet99uk (865 D)
07 Aug 17 UTC
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We don't need a Trump News thread.... now there is a Trump Real News Channel.

You couldn't make this shit shut up. A propaganda TV channel directly controlled by the president? Really?


michael_b (192 D)
07 Aug 17 UTC
Yeah, totally...

I don't support Trump but think this is going a bit too far. The constant media bashing he endures it a little unfair but they can't come up with real stories so I understand that. He deserves to be watched as he definitely has something to hide. But also setting up a real news channel is a little over the top. The wiser choice would be to wait for C"N"N to fall completely as now cartoons are watched more than them.

Feel free to disagree with me.
Jamiet99uk (865 D)
07 Aug 17 UTC
I disagree with you.

I bet you a pizza I can come up with 5 news stories branded "fake news" by Trump that are verifiably true.
Randomizer (722 D)
07 Aug 17 UTC
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/04/politics/donald-trump-vacation-obama/index.html

Now if only Trump didn't do anything while on vacation and didn't come back. The guy has taken more breaks than Obama. After Reagan didn't people learn not to elect an old guy.
Randomizer (722 D)
09 Aug 17 UTC
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/08/politics/north-korea-considering-guam-strike-trump/index.html

With two crazy men waiting to see who will blink first, could we see Trump's deer in the headlights photograph like Bush after hearing about 9/11? Because the only real target in North Korea of importance is where ever the leader is. Anything else isn't going to make a difference.
Jimmy48 (670 D)
09 Aug 17 UTC
Sorry, I didn't look at the CNN links above. I did see another CNN report that indicated Trump is not the first President or presidential supporter to use video as a propaganda tool, Obama used it extensively. An act of CYA on CNN's part to point this out I would imagine, since they truly are the source of fake news

Trump's "news service" does not use Federal funds for it production, up to now at least. On the other hand, I give you the following, which did partially use government money in its production.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K8bE_KJtl9U

There are a plethora of other example if you care to look.



Randomizer (722 D)
15 Aug 17 UTC
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/15/politics/joe-arpaio-trump-pardon/index.html

Long time Trump supporters and publicity hound he shows the same behavior as Trump. What's not mentioned is while Maricopa County sheriff, Arpaio sent detectives to Hawaii in a failed Obama Birther investigation after Trump's failed. That he's cost the county millions of dollars in lawsuits for encouraging illegal activities that have resulted in preventable deaths and arrests to pursue vendettas against his enemies.

Despite his claims of being tough on crime, he's been selective on law enforcement. Failing to join police in cities on going after criminals out on outstanding warrants.

He reassigned 3 of the 4 officers contracted to investigate sex crimes against children in one town to a public relations mission in Central America. This resulted in over 100 cases not being prosecuted because the paper work wasn't finished and turned over to prosecutors before the statute of limitations expired. Most of those cases didn't need investigations to determine the perpetrators, they just needed processing.

Then there was the time he showed his possible senility, while parking his car in a mall parking lot he put his foot on the gas instead of the brake and accelerated to 35 mph before his car stalled out going over a median strip. In a case of who are you going to believe, me or the car's black box that recorded his actions.
Randomizer (722 D)
15 Aug 17 UTC
Transcript of Trump's press conference:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/15/politics/read-president-trumps-q-and-a-at-trump-tower/index.html

"Here's the thing. When I make a statement, I like to be correct. I want the facts." - Donald Trump a man that never lets the facts get in the way of his statements.
ND (879 D)
15 Aug 17 UTC
Trump gave a great presser today. I am really happy he condemned the white supremacists (for the third time) but also condemned the alt-left, antifa, blm, etc. Also, he said he wanted to wait for facts.. great (not like Obama), and also he said that states and local communities should decide about the statues. Really good presser.
ishirkmywork (1401 D)
15 Aug 17 UTC
though you might have liked the press conference @ND, it probably pushed your dear leader closer to removal from office or at least further crippled his "agenda."

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ND (879 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
George Washington
Should statues of George Washington be taken down? This is being debated in Chicago.
https://youtu.be/1t96yjrZRrk
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Ogion (3882 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
Is everyone scared
To even bring up the neo Nazi terrorist attack in Charlottesville today, and the fact that the President made the weakest denunciation of terrorism ever, )except perhaps for his non response to the attacks in Quebec and Minnesota)
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
17 Aug 17 UTC
Anarchists in the US
"if we possess any sort of freedom today in this society, it is the result of all the times people defied and overthrew governments, not because of the times they were obedient. If not for disobedience, we would still be living under the rule of kings."

from this: https://itsgoingdown.org/statues-fall-uproot-pedestals-promise-direct-action/
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
17 Aug 17 UTC
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Completely unrelated to nazis thread.
*sigh*
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
16 Aug 17 UTC
Alt-left?
Interesting article describing the use of this term:
https://newrepublic.com/article/144361/liberals-helped-create-trumps-new-bogeyman-alt-left
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groza528 (518 D)
17 Aug 17 UTC
Dislodgement question
I'm normally pretty good with rules questions myself but this one has me going back and forth.
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Durga (3609 D)
16 Aug 17 UTC
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On punching nazis
I've decided to appease the centrists. Instead of punching nazis, we'll murder them by drone with no due process.
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Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
17 Aug 17 UTC
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Is it ever ok to paunch Nazis?
Especially Nazi cats?
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MyxIsMe (511 D)
17 Aug 17 UTC
Diplomacy Question
Not clear on how this works out in the game mechanics:

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Monfils (0 DX)
17 Aug 17 UTC
Diplomacy memes!
Give me some because I'm waiting on my games and I'm bored and I want webdiplo in a potent form
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JamesYanik (548 D)
16 Aug 17 UTC
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My Cat is a Nazi
https://puu.sh/xbB8I/c82481f2e9.png

please do not punch my cat
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trip (696 D(B))
16 Aug 17 UTC
Need a sub
gameID=201565

Please let me know if you're willing and I'll send you password. Thx.
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Jamiet99uk (865 D)
16 Aug 17 UTC
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It's okay to punch Nazis
I purport that it is perfectly ok to beat up the following types of people:

- Nazis - Neo-Nazis - KKK members - David Duke - White Supremacists -
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
12 Aug 17 UTC
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IRL work Horror Stories
No matter the field of profession, we all have work horror stories. The days when everything fell through the cracks or the work load was just too much. Tell about it. Only rule is try to avoid names and such.
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
16 Aug 17 UTC
Feature Idea: Badges
See Inside
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Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
16 Aug 17 UTC
Gen Con
Anyone going to Gen Con this weekend? I'm going for the first time just for the day Saturday - anyone with tips on what to see let me know.
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michael_b (192 D)
12 Aug 17 UTC
Feature Idea: Friend 'List'
I'm not one to cause pressure for the coding team who are focused on the new Forum, but has this feature been suggested before? See Reply.
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Mapu (362 D)
15 Aug 17 UTC
Five Year Anniversary Game
Happy Webdip Anniversary to me. Anyone good want to play a game? Classic Semi-Anon WTA.
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kestasjk (95 DMod(P))
04 Aug 17 UTC
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Trialing the upcoming new forum system
The new forum system is up and running, and we're ready to let users onto it to test it as we transition to it from this forum.

Probably best if you respond there rather than here, but I guess it doesn't matter:
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Maltir (125 D)
14 Aug 17 UTC
Can I do this?
Here's my map: http://webdiplomacy.net/map.php?gameID=204508&turn=-1&mapType=large
Question is, Can I move my fleet at Ankara to the Aegean Sea or the Eastern Med Sea without using the Black Sea?
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Fluminator (1500 D)
12 Aug 17 UTC
First person to shitpost loses
GO
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Monfils (0 DX)
14 Aug 17 UTC
Any help with this Gunboat that I would really like to pick up traction.
I will follow you around the forum and support your comments for a week
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
13 Aug 17 UTC
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Nazi march in America?
Someone with the Twitter handle @JuliusGoat just dropped one of the best Twitter threads in history, about the white supremacist/Nazi march in Charlottesville.

https://twitter.com/juliusgoat/status/896326301832925184
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ttf236 (0 DX)
14 Aug 17 UTC
Replies Last postsort ascending Forum
http://www.thefreelancemarketer.com/
http://www.theheatingplace.com/
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Maltir (125 D)
12 Aug 17 UTC
Why couldn't I move?
Hey I was playing Italy in this game. I tried to have my fleet convoy my army in Tuscany to Smyrna. Neither were being attacked or blocked, but I was unable to make this move. Why? Here's the link to the map: http://webdiplomacy.net/map.php?gameID=203295&turn=9&mapType=large
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Fluminator (1500 D)
09 Aug 17 UTC
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Unpopular opinion thread
I saw this posted on another forum and it ended up being a great thread.

Post an unpopular opinion you have, and only comment if you (dis)agree under others - no arguing.
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MajorMitchell (1874 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
Trump visits West Virginia and promises to "fix" the drug problems there.
Can Trump deliver on this promise ?
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Arch-Duke (100 D)
03 Aug 17 UTC
WWI year-by-year re-enactment game
Would anyone be interested in this? To be clear, I mean instead of playing, we figure out a blow-by-blow of WWI and then re-enact it phase by phase.
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peterwiggin (15158 D)
12 Aug 17 UTC
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Mod team personnel changes
bo_sox48 is now an administrator. Please join me in thanking him for his past and future service to the site.

Sadly, ghug is leaving the moderator team. Please join me in thanking him for the work he's done as a moderator.
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