"I like this. Sarg likes me now. I like you too :)"

Yes, I had been enjoying the way this had, until now, quietly taken place. :)

Yeah I was just surprised at the rapidity of the change in polarity on both ends.

You just don't see that too often.

Sucks that we are perceived as fundies. This is a VERY divided nation in that regard. Stupid, obnoxious, loud, self-righteous, ignorant... yeah I feel those are pretty much universal, Obama or no :P

This empire is set for a fall, and I'm sad to say I think it's going to happen in my lifetime.

I think World War 3 will happen in my lifetime.

Don't be sad YJ, if it happens, it happens. Best to get on with life until then.

What we need is another WebDip fundraiser. With all the money we'll buy a bunker and hide out when religious fundies take over America and/or World War 3 kicks off.

We'll fill the bunker with beer and Diplomacy boards, Draugnar will bring his females, and everyone will be happy.

Haha what do you see being the WW3 scenario?

China and US buildup over Korea is the only plausible one I can think of atm.

America and israel vs the entire middle east (+Russia?) is also a possibility?

Still I don't think Europe is going to get involved in any of that bullshit, though tbh I don't know much about the politics there.

Yes, American/Europe/Israel vs the Middle East + Russia. Exactly.

It will all come down to oil, as it increasingly has been doing for the last 20-30 years. As the oil supplies start to get worrying depleted within the next 10-20 years and prices have rocketed so high that the middle classes cannot afford fuel, international politics will become increasingly tense. All it would need would be for the OPEC countries - almost all of which, let's face it, are countries highly hostile to and antagonized by American foreign policy and cultural politics - to halt exports to America and Europe.
If this happened, at a time when oil prices were extremely high, it would be very difficult for Europe and America to keep their economies going at the same time as mobilising their armies (which heavily rely on fuel: planes, tanks, etc). The Middle East would only have to wait 12 months after banning exports to the west before it could launch an attack and the West would be virtually paralysed.

WW3?

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And the situation I've outlined above will be even harder for the West to deal with after so many years of austerity.

At the same time, Middle Eastern countries and Russia are feeding off the increasingly high oil and gas prices that allow them to buy military arms and equipment from countries like the US, France, and Great Britain - all of whom desperately want to sell arms so that they can pay for their expensive welfare states - which are not a concern for countries like Russia and Saudi Arabi who rule by oppression.

I dunno, American are generally liked over here. Sure you guys can be overly nationalistic, but I like you bastards anyway.

"I dunno, American are generally liked over here. Sure you guys can be overly nationalistic, but I like you bastards anyway."

That's just not true. Intellectuals disdain Americans. Working classes revile them.

I live in Australia, I don't know about the UK.

I think america has at least a years worth of oil reserves for our military, maybe more?

And we do have oil reserves of our own. I don't think the ME cutting us off would paralyze us really (though we would probably go to war over it).

Oh well of course people love the American in Australia. Australians know that America is the only thing that stands between them and China - a country whose population are increasingly invading your homeland through peaceful means.

"I think america has at least a years worth of oil reserves for our military, maybe more?

And we do have oil reserves of our own. I don't think the ME cutting us off would paralyze us really (though we would probably go to war over it)."

EXACTLY! You have a year's worth. A war to guarantee would clearly take more than a year. And mobilizing for such a war would not be done quickly. If in 10 years the OPEC nations decided to stop exporting to the US and Europe, there wouldn't be much they could do right now.

Lol, at this point we are more in danger of being overrun by sheepfuck-er Kiwis than Chinese immigrants. New Zealanders aren't even counted by immigration stats cuz there's just too damn many of them.

http://www.pbfcomics.com/253/

"New Zealanders aren't even counted by immigration stats cuz there's just too damn many of them."

New Zealand and Australia have open borders with each other.

Not exactly, but yeah it is really easy to go from one to the other.

"Oh well of course people love the American in Australia. Australians know that America is the only thing that stands between them and China - a country whose population are increasingly invading your homeland through peaceful means."

Oh no, they're invading us. Without those immigrants we wouldn't have enough population. We need those immigrants to keep shit running. Plus, most of them are educated to a reasonable degree and have learnt English better than most US immigrants I've seen in Australia.

Oh don't believe the stuff they're telling you, dD_Shock. Those Chinese immis in Australia are just the prep group for the full invasion. It's Elders of Zion all over again - that's why the Chinese baby boomed, all part of the plan.

Ok, I can see you're joking now. It's just what you said the first time is typical of what some douche American would say as though they're infinitely superior to us, and as though we need protection from our biggest trade partner.

"This empire is set for a fall, and I'm sad to say I think it's going to happen in my lifetime."

Couldn't agree more. I'm just wondering which one of your problems that you've set up for yourself will kill you. I'm placing bets on China, who owns a majority of your business shares, will simply fold every single company in the USA simultaneously, legally and peacefully destroying it. (Especially since the government continues making everything privately run and removes all public services at a rapid rate)

Shocker that seems to me to be highly unlikely.

First off, correct me if I'm ignorant but I really don't think China owns a majority of our business shares. A fairly sizable minority, probably, but not a majority.

Even if they do own a majority and just "folded" everything they own the government would intervene to see that the businesses keep producing. There's no shortage of American capitalists that would eagerly scoop those businesses back up at a cut rate.

Seems like YJ is fishing for somebody to hate.

Yes, Putin, because I'm spiteful and horrible and hatefull and there is nothing I love better than keeping minorities and women down.

It's pretty much what I live for.

btw in case you didn't notice, Putin, the above politeness and decency riddled page is a good example of how discussions generally go when you *aren't* involved in them.

Ah yes, politely discussing why Americans are "fat fucks". Gee, sorry I rained on that parade, Mr. Congeniality.

It's sort of bizarre how much 'southerners' hate America. I mean, virtually every other country has a reason to hate America, but not sure why the Maori killers hate us so much.

Where does Sarg come up with this commentary? Russia rules by oppression? Saudi has no welfare state? WTF are you talking about?