Good to know, CB.

The King will offer us support in our ventures against Playdipia. We do not need to fear the repercussions of taking already captured Playdipian slaves along with us. They will be good bartering chips for us with the Playdipians if we encounter them, but it's not like their capture is news - the Playdipians might come after us for being the King's subjects, but they won't come after us for 30 slaves that have been gone for a long time already.

24h is good. I'll vote on the new proposals tomorrow. Hard to have an overview now.

Yes, Emmett is useless

I really liked Kench's Excel sheet. What was the url again? I'd like to save it.

He's a traveling merchant. He clearly has an interest, so his conditions probably aren't non-negotiable.

The only thing I would consider buying from the new trade guy is the Congolese slaves. I am not at all interested in him coming with

Second and vote yea:
1.1
1.2
1.3
1.4
1.8
1.10
1.12
1.13
1.16
1.19
1.23
1.24

Vote nay:
1.6
1.7
1.9
1.11
1.18
1.20
Hiring Emmett

Could we get an update on where we're at with proposals? Kench is doing that, right?

As for voting, I favour simple majority, but with a minimum of 3 yes votes required.

What about my spreadsheet?

<<<CURRENT PROPOSAL LIST>>>

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________

I am only doing this because Kench isn’t here. If he is our Scribe, this is his responsibility, and I only recommend doing this for the sake of maintaining organized. I also highly recommend keeping your own list.

For the purposes of this list, I am following a 2/3 majority **of the voters** to constitute a pass. This means that if enough people that haven’t yet voted went ahead and voted no, what is marked as passed may not end up on the charter or on our orders for the phase. Ultimately, if Kench is our Scribe, this is up to him. If not, I’m more than happy to keep making these lists. I think that a 2/3 majority is best, though, rather than saying we necessarily need a certain number of votes, because certain people are going to go active and inactive throughout the game and others may drop out, so our numbers won’t stay the same. I think it is safe to stipulate, though, that a proposal must have a majority of councillors voting in order to pass (right now that is 3/6 I believe?).

For hiring experts, I am using the same metric for passing/failing, but as Kench indicated before, the specialists with the most YEA votes will end up hired, regardless of the percentage.

For the most part, this follows Kench’s format, but I haven’t renumbered proposals. I think it will be easier on all of us to simply leave the proposals numbered in order and have the scribe group them, as I have here, so that yea and nay votes don’t get mixed up. That means that you might have to search to find your proposal, but it also means that when you propose something as 1.22 or whatever, it stays that, regardless of what grouping it ends up under. I think this is better.

According to the rules, nay votes for proposals that have not been seconded yet do not count. Yea votes to proposals that have not been seconded count as seconds, and once a proposal is seconded, the proposer and the seconder are considered yea votes.

I also added a couple of my own votes to things I hadn’t voted on yet.

________
________

<<Resources and trades>>

Prop. 1.1: Spend 100 Silver to buy wool (Proposed: Brain; Seconded: Kench)

YEA: Kench, bo, Ike, Cosmo, Moscow
NAY:

PASSED (5/5, 100%)


Prop. 1.2: Spend 100 Silver to buy Spices (Proposed: Brain; Seconded: Kench)

YEA: Kench, Ike, Cosmo, Moscow
NAY: bo,

PASSED (4/5, 80%)


Prop. 1.3: Spend 400 Gold to buy mining kit (Proposed: Brain; Seconded: Kench)

YEA: Kench, bo, Ike, Cosmo, Moscow
NAY:

PASSED (5/5, 100%)


Prop. 1.4: Spend 200 gold to purchase a Farming Kit (Proposed: Bo; Seconded: Kench)

YEA: bo, Kench, Ike, Cosmo, Moscow
NAY:

PASSED (5/5, 100%)


Prop. 1.19: Spend 200 silver to purchase 10-man Row Boat (Proposed: Cosmo; Seconded: Bo)

YEA: Cosmo, bo, Ike, Moscow
NAY:

PASSED (4/4, 100%)


Prop. 1.20: Spend 700 gold to purchase Fortifications Kit (Proposed: Cosmo)

NOT SECONDED


Prop 1.24: Spend 300 silver to purchase 30 slaves (Proposed: Bo; Seconded: Moscow)

YEA: bo, Moscow
NAY:

NOT PASSED (not enough votes)


<<Experts>> (the three with the most Yea votes will be hired)

Prop 1.5: Hire Patrick Killian and allow him to bring his son. Agree to pay him 10 silver per phase or better based on quality of work. (Proposed: Brain; Seconded: Kench)

YEA: Kench, bo, Ike, Cosmo
NAY:

PASSED (4 YEA, tied for most)


Prop 1.6: Hire Nain Rouge. (Proposed: Brain)

NOT SECONDED


Prop 1.7: Hire Lieutenant Webster. (Proposed: Bo; Seconded: Kench)

YEA: bo, Kench, Ike, Cosmo
NAY: Moscow

PASSED (4 YEA, tied for most)


Prop 1.8: Hire Admiral Augusta (Proposed: Claesar; Seconded: Moscow)

YEA: Claesar, Moscow
NAY: bo

NOT PASSED (2 YEA, fourth overall)


Prop 1.9: Hire Father Abba (Proposed: Claesar)

NOT SECONDED


Prop 1.16: Hire Dr. Halliburton (Proposed: Moscow; Seconded: Kench

YEA: Moscow, Kench, bo, Ike
NAY: Cosmo

PASSED (4 YEA, tied for most)


Prop. 1.18: Hire Professor Emery Steward (Proposed: Cosmo)

NOT SECONDED


<<Research Queue>>

Prop. 1.10: Farming Tools 1. -> Farming Tools 2 (Proposed: Brain; Seconded: Kench)

YEA: Kench, bo, Ike, Moscow
NAY: Cosmo

PASSED (4/5, 80%)


Prop. 1.17: Research Engineering 1 (Proposed: Cosmo)

NOT SECONDED


<<Tech Queue>>
Prop 1.11: Food Storage 1 -> Drying (Proposed: Brain; Seconded: Kench)

YEA: Kench, bo, Ike, Cosmo
NAY: Moscow

PASSED (4/5, 80%)


Prop 1.12: Lumber yard (Proposed: Moscow; Seconded: bo)

YEA: Moscow, bo
NAY: Cosmo
ABSTAIN: Ike

PASSED (2/3, 67%)


<<Beliefs>>

Prop 1.13: Establish our new land as New webDipia. (Proposed: Bo; Seconded: Kench)

YEA: bo, Kench, Ike, Moscow
NAY:
ABSTAIN: Cosmo

PASSED (4/4, 100%)


Prop 1.14: Separation of Church and State
-The church has no say in matters of National security
-The church has no say in matters of Research
-The church had no say in matters of tech
-The church has no say in burial rites
-The church has no say in imposition of their beliefs into our school system
-The church will be taxed 60 silver per phase as of phase 5.
-The church will have zero say/involvement in foreign affairs, trade, or direct relations to any of our allies or enemies
(Proposed: Brain; Seconded: Kench)

YEA: Kench
NAY: bo, Cosmo
ABSTAIN: Ike

NOT PASSED (1/3, 33%)


Prop. 1.21: Amendment of Prop. 1.14
-The church shall have no say in matters of National Security
-The church shall have no say in matters of Foreign Affairs including, but not limited to trade relations, communication, foreign policy, or the state of alliance or animosity with foreign agents. 
-The church shall have no say in matters of Intellectual Advancement, including but not limited to ongoing Research, Development, or Technological Innovation. 
-The church shall have advisory capacity in matters of Domestic Affairs, including but not limited to, Education of the populace, social customs, moral state of the colony.
(Proposed: Cosmo)

NOT SECONDED


Prop. 1.15: Governance 
- Governor: elected Councillor, chosen by the Councillors, with a term of 5 phases. Can be reelected. Can be voted out of office with unanimous vote (excluding his own, of course) by the Councillors. Responsibilities include but are not limited to sustaining relationships with colonists, working with the chosen specialists to make wise foreign policy decisions, and making rational and reasonable recommendations to the Councillors on a regular basis. May comment on all decisionmaking by the established government and serves as a strong, active, and impartial voice but can take no action unilaterally and does not receive extra votes other than the one they are awarded as a Councillor. The Councillors must still agree on proposals.
- Scribe: appointed by the Governor for his term(s). Responsible for writing, counting, and collecting votes from Councillors on proposals and for administering any necessary documents to be sent back to the mainland at the end of each phase.
- Colony Manager: appointed by the Governor for his term(s). Responsible for recommending building projects, rationing, and determining the basic necessities of the colonists, as well as relaying the needs of the colonists to the Councillors on a regular basis. Should be in constant communication with all specialists and with any other influential voices in the colony, thus, should be very actively participating here.
(Proposed: Bo; Seconded: Kench)

YEA: bo, Kench, Ike, Cosmo
NAY:

PASSED (4/4, 100%)


Prop. 1.22: Voting Bylaws
-A quorum of the Council shall be defined to be four of the seven councillors
-An abstaining vote counts toward a quorum
-A councillor who does not vote shall have their vote recorded as abstaining, but this does not count toward a quorum
-For a vote on a proposition to be considered valid, a quorum must vote on the proposition
-For a proposition to succeed, the number of Yea's must outrank the number of Nay's, with abstaining votes counting for neither Yea's nor Nay's. 
(Proposed: Cosmo)

NOT SECONDED


Prop. 1.23: Silver Standard
-We shall define the Silver Equivalent Unit (SEU) as the standard currency for the colony. 
-The SEU shall be defined as the worth of a resource in terms of one unit of Silver. The value in silver of a resource is therefore the amount of a commodity multiplied by its SEU. 
-Using this definition the SEU of our standard resources are as follows:
- - - Food: 1/16
- - - Wood: 1/8
- - - Stone: 1/4
- - - Iron: 1/2
- - - Silver: 1
- - - Gold: 2
(Proposed: Cosmo; Seconded: Ike)

YEA: Cosmo, Ike, Moscow, bo
NAY:

PASSED (4/4, 100%)

<<<NEW WEBDIPIA CHARTER>>>

________
________

This is an incomplete draft. I welcome revisions and changes, but this basic outline of who we are and what we believe needs to be finished by the end of this phase.
________
________

We, the Councillors of New webDipia, declare ourselves in allegiance to King Byron and establish this new land as a colony in his name. It is with his grace that we seek this new venture and aspire for good faith, good fortune, and vast prosperity.

The Councillors of new webDipia declare this land governed firstly by the King and, underneath His Majesty, the Governor, who shall be elected at a gathering of the Councillors every 5 phases by plurality. The Governor cannot act unilaterally in any fashion. He is, however, responsible for making wise recommendations to the remainder of the Councillors on foreign policy, assisting in sustaining the land on which we live, working closely with our hired specialists and other valued, influential assets as chosen by the Councillors, offering regular commentary and wisdom in daily matters, and upholding a positive relationship with the subjects of New webDipia. He can be removed from office with a unanimous vote among the Councillors, excluding his own, under charges of treason against the King, treason against the Councillors and New webDipia, or incompetence.

The Governor shall be solely responsible for appointing a Scribe, who shall be tasked with recording, counting, and tracking all changes and proposals for the Councillors, collecting votes on said proposals, and arranging any necessary documentation to be relayed to the mainland by the conclusion of each phase. The Governor shall also be solely responsible for appointing a Colony Manager, who shall, under the authority of the Governor, establish building projects with the help of our specialists, and help to meet the daily needs and necessities of the subjects of New webDipia.

New webDipia follows the Silver Standard, which is detailed specifically under Prop. 1.23, in all economic matters.

Signed,
The Councillors of New webDipia

We need to be careful of the purchase order. Since we split it up and voted by item rather than by total, we need to ensure that we don't vote to buy more than we can. I haven't done the math on what's proposed so far, but that's something to think about with this system.

So far we have spent:

Farming Kit: 200 gold, 500 units
Mining Kit: 400 gold, 500 units
Spices: 100 silver, 100 units
Wool: 100 silver, 500 units
Row Boat: 200 silver, 300 units
Patrick Killian: 10 silver

That totals 410/900 silver, 600/1000 gold, and 1900/3000 units spent. Lots of everything left. We should do our best to fill out the 3000 units, but there is no pressure to spend all of our resources at all.

##PROP. 1.25

Purchase a cannon (100 gold, 100 units). Good for defense, especially since we don’t have fortifications yet, and even better once we do because we don’t necessarily have to put anyone outside of our walls in order to fight off an attack.

If we pass the proposal for 30 slaves (Prop. 1.24), we'll be at 710/900 silver.

Just a reminder I need all final decisions posted here or PMed to me by 2pm EST 9/17

That is in 13 hours.
also if you haven't committed to an action or Chosen two personal items to take along you have 13 hours left to PM me.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1G3ciadU5kvZYMb2xPjC3jPPjoF-kI5ETo_vPtvi54Y8/edit?usp=sharing

Also this link is where all numbers will be added.

If someone has extra time, could they try to find my votes? :-/ Just a few pges back, I'm at a tournament. Will try to update.

Found it on page5, but I can't post a message that long on myphone due to some bug.. Couldsomeone add those votes? Thanks for all the hard work, everyone!

Claesar votes Yay on Props: 1.1 0(if 1.7 is passed), 1.14,1.17,1.7

Claesar votes Nay on Props 1.13,1.15,1.16,1.9,1.6,1.2.2,1.2.1,1.2,1.0

Claesar Abtains on Props 1.11,1.12,1.8,1.5,1.3.1,1.3

Claesar Hasn't yet voted on Props 1.18,1.19,1.20,1.21,1.22,1.23,1.24,1.25

Give the shared totals for supplies I will second and ##Vote Yea on Prop 1.25

Sorry, I only tallied votes since Kench posted his list.

I'm really sorry. Been taken out for the weekend because of my Dad's retirement do. Will get on this straight away and pull together a final charter for submission to the GM.

2 hours keft

##Vote Yay 1.19, 1.25, 1.12, 1,23
##Vote Nay 1.24

Really, you don't want Playdipian slaves? What's the downside? They're more productive and less costly than workers.

Ladies and Gents, this is how the charter stands. It is set out as a letter, incorporating the beliefs that we have voted on into the covering text, as set out by Bo in my absence (many thanks), and detailing the decisions that were actually come to. The full voting list is then set out in an annex for transparency. I hope this suits everyone! Please feel free to let me know if I've missed anything.


<<<NEW WEBDIPIA CHARTER>>>

For the attention of the King’s most humble servant, Captain “Pickles” Rick

We, the Councillors of New webDipia, declare ourselves in allegiance to King Byron and establish this new land as a colony in his name. It is with his grace that we seek this new venture and aspire for good faith, good fortune, and vast prosperity.

The Councillors of new webDipia declare this land governed firstly by the King and, underneath His Majesty, the Governor, who shall be elected at a gathering of the Councillors every 5 phases by plurality. The Governor cannot act unilaterally in any fashion. He is, however, responsible for making wise recommendations to the remainder of the Councillors on foreign policy, assisting in sustaining the land on which we live, working closely with our hired specialists and other valued, influential assets as chosen by the Councillors, offering regular commentary and wisdom in daily matters, and upholding a positive relationship with the subjects of New webDipia. He can be removed from office with a unanimous vote among the Councillors, excluding his own, under charges of treason against the King, treason against the Councillors and New webDipia, or incompetence.

The Governor shall be solely responsible for appointing a Scribe, who shall be tasked with recording, counting, and tracking all changes and proposals for the Councillors, collecting votes on said proposals, and arranging any necessary documentation to be relayed to the mainland by the conclusion of each phase. The Governor shall also be solely responsible for appointing a Colony Manager, who shall, under the authority of the Governor, establish building projects with the help of our specialists, and help to meet the daily needs and necessities of the subjects of New webDipia.

New webDipia follows the Silver Standard, which is detailed specifically under Prop. 1.23, in all economic matters.

Below, we have set out a summary of the purchases and decisions that have been agreed on this phase. Full details how how votes fell can be found in the Annexed note.

Resources and Trade:
Spend 100S to buy wool
Spend 100S to buy spices
Spend 400G to buy mining kit
Spend 200G to buy a farming kit
Spend 200S to buy a rowboat
Spend 100G to buy a cannon

Experts:
Hire Patrick Killan
Hire Lieutenant Webster
Hire Dr. Haliburton

Research Queue:
Farming Tools 1
Farming Tools 2

Tech Queue:
Food storage 1
Drying
Lumberyard

Signed,
The Councillors of New webDipia


**ANNEX 1- Full voting list**

<<Resources and trades>>

Prop. 1.1: Spend 100 Silver to buy wool (Proposed: Brain; Seconded: Kench)

YEA: Kench, bo, Ike, Cosmo, Moscow, Claesar
NAY:

PASSED (5/5, 100%)


Prop. 1.2: Spend 100 Silver to buy Spices (Proposed: Brain; Seconded: Kench)

YEA: Kench, Ike, Cosmo, Moscow
NAY: bo,

PASSED (4/5, 80%)


Prop. 1.3: Spend 400 Gold to buy mining kit (Proposed: Brain; Seconded: Kench)

YEA: Kench, bo, Ike, Cosmo, Moscow
NAY:

PASSED (5/5, 100%)


Prop. 1.4: Spend 200 gold to purchase a Farming Kit (Proposed: Bo; Seconded: Kench)

YEA: bo, Kench, Ike, Cosmo, Moscow
NAY:

PASSED (5/5, 100%)


Prop 1.5: Hire Patrick Killian and allow him to bring his son. Agree to pay him 10 silver per phase or better based on quality of work. (Proposed: Brain; Seconded: Kench)

YEA: Kench, bo, Ike, Cosmo
NAY:

PASSED (4 YEA, tied for most)


Prop 1.6: Hire Nain Rouge. (Proposed: Brain)

NOT SECONDED


Prop 1.7: Hire Lieutenant Webster. (Proposed: Bo; Seconded: Kench)

YEA: bo, Kench, Ike, Cosmo
NAY: Moscow

PASSED (4 YEA, tied for most)


Prop 1.8: Hire Admiral Augusta (Proposed: Claesar; Seconded: Moscow)

YEA: Claesar, Moscow
NAY: bo, Kench

NOT PASSED (2 YEA, fourth overall)


Prop 1.9: Hire Father Abba (Proposed: Claesar)

NOT SECONDED


Prop. 1.10: Farming Tools 1. -> Farming Tools 2 (Proposed: Brain; Seconded: Kench)

YEA: Kench, bo, Ike, Moscow
NAY: Cosmo

PASSED (4/5, 80%)


Prop 1.11: Food Storage 1 -> Drying (Proposed: Brain; Seconded: Kench)

YEA: Kench, bo, Ike, Cosmo
NAY: Moscow

PASSED (4/5, 80%)


Prop 1.12: Lumber yard (Proposed: Moscow; Seconded: bo)

YEA: Moscow, bo, Kench
NAY: Cosmo
ABSTAIN: Ike

PASSED (3/4, 75%)


Prop 1.13: Establish our new land as New webDipia. (Proposed: Bo; Seconded: Kench)

YEA: bo, Kench, Ike, Moscow
NAY: Claesar
ABSTAIN: Cosmo

PASSED (4/5, 80%)


Prop 1.14: Separation of Church and State
-The church has no say in matters of National security
-The church has no say in matters of Research
-The church had no say in matters of tech
-The church has no say in burial rites
-The church has no say in imposition of their beliefs into our school system
-The church will be taxed 60 silver per phase as of phase 5.
-The church will have zero say/involvement in foreign affairs, trade, or direct relations to any of our allies or enemies
(Proposed: Brain; Seconded: Kench)

YEA: Kench, Claesar
NAY: bo, Cosmo
ABSTAIN: Ike

NOT PASSED (2/4, 50%)


Prop. 1.15: Governance
- Governor: elected Councillor, chosen by the Councillors, with a term of 5 phases. Can be reelected. Can be voted out of office with unanimous vote (excluding his own, of course) by the Councillors. Responsibilities include but are not limited to sustaining relationships with colonists, working with the chosen specialists to make wise foreign policy decisions, and making rational and reasonable recommendations to the Councillors on a regular basis. May comment on all decisionmaking by the established government and serves as a strong, active, and impartial voice but can take no action unilaterally and does not receive extra votes other than the one they are awarded as a Councillor. The Councillors must still agree on proposals.
- Scribe: appointed by the Governor for his term(s). Responsible for writing, counting, and collecting votes from Councillors on proposals and for administering any necessary documents to be sent back to the mainland at the end of each phase.
- Colony Manager: appointed by the Governor for his term(s). Responsible for recommending building projects, rationing, and determining the basic necessities of the colonists, as well as relaying the needs of the colonists to the Councillors on a regular basis. Should be in constant communication with all specialists and with any other influential voices in the colony, thus, should be very actively participating here.
(Proposed: Bo; Seconded: Kench)

YEA: bo, Kench, Ike, Cosmo
NAY: Claesar

PASSED (4/5, 80%)


Prop 1.16: Hire Dr. Halliburton (Proposed: Moscow; Seconded: Kench

YEA: Moscow, Kench, bo, Ike
NAY: Cosmo, Claesar

PASSED 4/6 (66%)


Prop. 1.17: Research Engineering 1 (Proposed: Cosmo, Seconded: Claesar)

NOT SECONDED


Prop. 1.18: Hire Professor Emery Steward (Proposed: Cosmo)

NOT SECONDED


Prop. 1.19: Spend 200 silver to purchase 10-man Row Boat (Proposed: Cosmo; Seconded: Bo)

YEA: Cosmo, bo, Ike, Moscow
NAY:

PASSED (4/4, 100%)


Prop. 1.20: Spend 700 gold to purchase Fortifications Kit (Proposed: Cosmo)

NOT SECONDED


Prop. 1.21: Amendment of Prop. 1.14
-The church shall have no say in matters of National Security
-The church shall have no say in matters of Foreign Affairs including, but not limited to trade relations, communication, foreign policy, or the state of alliance or animosity with foreign agents.
-The church shall have no say in matters of Intellectual Advancement, including but not limited to ongoing Research, Development, or Technological Innovation.
-The church shall have advisory capacity in matters of Domestic Affairs, including but not limited to, Education of the populace, social customs, moral state of the colony.
(Proposed: Cosmo)

NOT SECONDED


Prop. 1.22: Voting Bylaws
-A quorum of the Council shall be defined to be four of the seven councillors
-An abstaining vote counts toward a quorum
-A councillor who does not vote shall have their vote recorded as abstaining, but this does not count toward a quorum
-For a vote on a proposition to be considered valid, a quorum must vote on the proposition
-For a proposition to succeed, the number of Yea's must outrank the number of Nay's, with abstaining votes counting for neither Yea's nor Nay's.
(Proposed: Cosmo)

NOT SECONDED


Prop. 1.23: Silver Standard
-We shall define the Silver Equivalent Unit (SEU) as the standard currency for the colony.
-The SEU shall be defined as the worth of a resource in terms of one unit of Silver. The value in silver of a resource is therefore the amount of a commodity multiplied by its SEU.
-Using this definition the SEU of our standard resources are as follows:
- - - Food: 1/16
- - - Wood: 1/8
- - - Stone: 1/4
- - - Iron: 1/2
- - - Silver: 1
- - - Gold: 2
(Proposed: Cosmo; Seconded: Ike)

YEA: Cosmo, Ike, Moscow, bo
NAY:

PASSED (4/4, 100%)


Prop 1.24: Spend 300 silver to purchase 30 slaves (Proposed: Bo; Seconded: Moscow)

YEA: bo, Moscow
NAY: Kench

NOT PASSED (not enough votes)


Prop. 1.25: Purchase a cannon (100 gold, 100 units) (Proposed: Bo, Seconded: Cosmo)

YEA: Bo, Cosmo, Kench
NAY:

PASSED (3/3 100%)

Nicely done, you have 1hr 40min left for late changes but I will start entering in this information into the google sheet.

Don't forget you have actions and items to select.

PM me if you haven't and if you have an want to change you can at anytime.

1.24 has enough votes to pass.

Sorry, I thought it had to be a minimum of three votes in favour. I misunderstood. Three votes total, still 2/3 majority, of course.

##Rick. Would it be best for me to re-write the whole charter, incorporating Proposal 1.24, or just assume that you have taken Bo's valid point into account.