The truth you speak doth lack some gentleness and time to speak it in. You rub the sore.
When you should bring the plaster.

@Brainbomb... quite a tempestuous comment...

@RagingIke I didn't notice you changing your vote onto BB. My points are that the self-vote is useless, not the vote on brainbomb. The points only make sense if they're referring to a self-vote, not another vote. Of course, voting for the first guy who calls your self-vote out for being worthless isn't much better, but it's something.

As for what would make my vote on you better than your vote on bb, I'm seeing how things develop between you and the rest of the group. Not self-voting is an improvement, tunneling on those that think your self-voting was a negative contribution, is less of one.

The plan was to see who was interested in what I was doing. Who doesn't care about finding out about what people are doing? Scum. The entire time this was going on who continued to push on Chaqa for no reason and not even mention or question what I was doing? Kakarroto & Ezio. Townies have interest in everything, scum tunnel and try to start wagons.

BB vote was to see if anyone would jump in on the argument and attempt to wagon, which aside from yourself didn't really get traction. Seeing how it has outlived it's usefulness, ##UNVOTE

@Raging_Ike.. thanks... that makes some sense to me... but now it is dinner time!

@Ike can you explain what seperates zorclex voting chaqa from ezio and kakarroto? You neglected him; so do you agree with zorclex chaqa is scum?

Opinion's but a fool, that makes us scan the outward habit by the inward man.

@Ezio only with logic we can get the reason behind the truth. Or behind the truth? Well we get to know much more.

@zorclex No, don't do that, don't just change into german, I just explained why I'm sometimes not as fast as a native speaker ;) Also, I think I'm calling it quits for today, I'm much too slow right now since I'm tired and stayed awake the whole day and am right now just like 'blargh, mental yoghurt'. Reason for your previous vote is registered, thanks.

@RagingIke: That makes some sense. But not being interested and not taking part aren't the same thing. Ezio and Kakarroto could care very much about what's going on, but just haven't chimed in yet. I'm not saying that's what they're doing, I'm just saying it's a possibility.

Clarification: I don't actually think Chaqa is scum. I jokevoted him with a joke reason, and haven't changed that yet. But he doesn't seem scummy to me. Not much more than anyone else, at this point.

@BB I missed his vote, I would put him in my pile of deplorables next to Kakarroto and Ezio. He has no good reason to vote like that, in fact the reason he stated is meta. Also, stop posting meaningless quotes and making the thread longer

@Kakarroto: That's probably for the best, I don't speak german super well.

X-post, if zorclex changes his "joke" vote, he's out of the pile

@RI True enough. The whole Chaqa thing has been pretty weird. But with a game this large, people won't pay attention to everything, especially in the opening hours.

It's still a self-centered gambit, but I suppose that's one of the ways in which to make the chaos of numbers far easier to understand. I'm just not sure that a self-vote is the way to do it.

@RagingIke: Did you see my clarification? Evidently not. Let me restate: I don't think Chaqa is scum at he moment, but haven't unvoted or Changed my vote, because I see no reason to do so yet. Also, posting lots of crap in what brainbomb does.

##Unvote
that good enough for you?

Need to respond to that before I go.

"[...] The entire time this was going on who continued to push on Chaqa for no reason and not even mention or question what I was doing? Kakarroto & Ezio. Townies have interest in everything, scum tunnel and try to start wagons. [...]"

First, I even stated my reason, please read it again if you haven't seen it.
Second, what is that tunneling of vecna on me in your opinion then?
Third, as brain stated before, how about zorclex?
Fourth, where is my bed?
Fifth, multitasking much isn't a talent that everyone has (especially if tired), so it's better to focus on one thing for a short period of time and come back to the other things later. Though brain seemed to have done good there, so worksharing can work too.

Anyways, I'm gone for now, see ya read ya later. When my brain isn't this half-mush.

@zorclex, I was more trying to get across if you left your vote there after saying it was a joke until end of day it would seem suspicious, not that you should move it right away, but you did so, so it doesn't matter anymore.

@Kakarroto, your reason was he was quiet in another game. Hardly a reason.

@Ike are you claiming that the vote on me was another reaction test to see if scum would pile on me? I recall you said at the time it was to force me to do town work...

@RagingIke: Well I certainly wasn't planning it on leaving it there without reason, but I saw no need to change it at the moment, as I could do that later. But yeah, I would be suspicious of that too if someone else did it.

I'm going to go eat, I'll be back sometime soon. Let's try not to lynch me in thirty seconds this time, alright?

@bb, I'm playing a press game that takes priority over Mafia and I was waiting for the joke period to be over.

@ghug, I had the same thought about Ezio. He was very polite when he was Mafia last time, and I thought he was a bit aggressive with Chaqa here, but maybe they have some history I'm not aware of.

@kakarroto, you started scummy but then improved. I'm going to ##VOTE kakarroto just to start with something.

@BB Pile on you or I, I didn't really have an intended target, just trying to give scum something to slip on

Unless I screwed up, here's a list of the players in a better order than posted. #fuckVash

Participants in A-Z order:
brainbomb
Chaqa
Dargorygel
DemonOverlord
DemonRHK
ezio
floodgates
ghug
Glen_Alexander
guak
Jamiet99uk
Kakarroto
krellin
maniac
MoscowFleet
ND
Ragin Ike
rdrivera2005
teacon7
Vecna
WardenDresden
xorxes
zorclex

Ike, scum dont normally like to vote next to their buddies. Sorry xorx and zorclex werent feelin a brainwagon.

Xorxes voting kakarroto is truly suspicious, nobody takes two hours to post in a press game either. Never done this before on Day 1! ##Vote xorxes

Say what you will BB, I'm trying to get conversation going so we have solid evidence and not random quotes to look at later

I leave for 10 minutes to get a snack and everyone stops posting... guys? Where'd ya go? Also, BB why do you put xorx and Zorclex as my "scum buds" but not Kakarroto and then push on the one person pushing on him?

RI: "The plan was to see who was interested in what I was doing. Who doesn't care about finding out about what people are doing? Scum. The entire time this was going on who continued to push on Chaqa for no reason and not even mention or question what I was doing? Kakarroto & Ezio. Townies have interest in everything, scum tunnel and try to start wagons."

deja vu all over again... anyone remember a few games back when ND tried the same bullshit? Went something like "lolz sheep", left, and accused people of not responding to it because town should care about everything?

Also RHK with your post you prove my point. Heeeeeellla salty. If a vote is considered "driving you into the ground", I'm wjessop.

I like WDs posts so far, I only remember him from M18. Isn't he like a doctor who delivers babies or something? Zorclex seems a ton more relaxed than previous games, which makes me think of him as more towny.

##Vote Glen Alexander say something. If you're going to lurk to hell all game let's get you out of the way early.