@Draug: yep, I'd like to see the rest implemented as well. But since any implementing seems very hard to be put into work actually I'd like to see a rather small step done, then a giant leap only planned.

So, do we have a volunteer dev for this?

Isn't there a developer fairy that just sprinkles pixie dust on the code to give us what we want?

If you can get me in to the developer forum and codebase I am happy to do this and whatever else we decide on.

abge: I'd do it, that's why I wanted to register to the dev forum.

I'm still concerned about letting people see who's on their blacklist. This community has a rather severe lynch-mob mentality at times...

For me, I really don't care, it was uclabb's condition, not mine. I think none of the above commenters had any problem whether it's public or not.

@abge - No one has ever said anything about making the blacklists publicly visible. Please read the whole thread over again and write "Nobody said the blacklists would be public" 100 times on a chalkboard. :-) Seriously, this has been mentioned numerous time and every time ae say it isn't even on the table. Your blacklist is only available to you.

roka - several of us have said no public lists. Treat it the same as the mute list.

@Draug, @abge:

Once again, the blacklist is NOT public, BUT everyone can see who has blocked him/her, but nothing else.

So if abge blacklists me with 5 other players and Draug blacklists me with 10 others, all I will see is both of you blacklisted ME, but I won't see how many others or whom. So I can write to both of you and ask what the heck?, but no 3rd party will ever know you two have blacklisted me.

@Draug: what we have agreed and what I have summarized was about the "avoidee" can see who's trying to avoid him. Of course I'm opened to change it, and make it completely hidden, it was uclabb's request.

Right. So why did you say nobody had a complaint about public blacklists?

@draug: "public" means the avoidee can see who has blacklisted him. It's not public, it's the wrong word. Every player would have the right to know who's trying to avoid him. How would you call that in 1 word? ("You have to right to face your accuser")

Te definition of public sould imply *everyone* can see who has *anyone* else blacklisted. semi-private means the listee can see who has them listed and private woudl mean only the blacklister would know who he had blacklisted.

I know, so this would be semi-private

That would have some issues with it but it might be a possible implementation with some alterations done. Like Draug said, it would have to be a one-way vision thing.

I still can't register to the dev forum :( so this has to wait :(

ok. So this is how it works at vDip:
1. A player mutes a forum thread - (A mutes Public Thread) - hey we all have forum threads that we'd rather not give flying stuff about
... - ... Player A no longer sees the thread in the forum.

2. A player mutes another player - (A mutes player B) this comes into effect if during a game they no longer wish to communicate with this player for whatever reason. Usually it has to do with language that A does not find appropriate in a game situation.
... - ... Player A no longer receives or sees anything that player B sends (or posts in global) in-game.

3. A player decides to add another player to their ban-list. This can occur for a number of reasons, abuse in their correspondence, a clash of personalities, or that player never finalises their orders and it simply gives you the fuckin' irits.
... - ... Now player A no longer sees any games that player B happens to be in. Also Player B can no longer see any games player A happens to be in. If both players are already in the same game, nothing happens.

So, from what I have observed at vDip, players will only put another player on their ban-list as a last resort - this dynamic might change if it was applied to a larger community - but I would expect that most players (99.9%) would not do this out of spite or of suspected cheating. Rather we should encourage players to report suspected multi's and meta's asap to the Mods. At vDip we do this through a Mod-Forum, and we deal with these issues quite quickly.

To re-cap:
By putting someone on you ban-list you don't 'boot' them from a game you and they happen to be in. You simply choose not to join any game that they are in, and make it so that they cannot join any games that you are in.
By muting someone, you are cutting out all communication with that player in your game.
By muting a forum thread, you are hiding that thread from your browsing experience.

Hope this helps.

thx caner, good to know.

As I see now, it will be a slower development here.
At first I'd like to implement that, no blacklisted player can join any games created by the person who has blacklisted him

After we can go on with implementation regarding non-joinable games, notifications, time limitations, etc, as we see how the community uses this feature. It seems we have to go forward with smaller steps, but that's totally okay for me.

LOL

love the spelling error....

and I facepalm now -_-. I forgot "cancer" has a c before the e

I'm like a little malignant pr*ck that pops up now and then to try to turn people over to the dark side...

But seriously I don't pop over here much any more, just every now and then to check if there is anything interesting going on in the forums.

lol, you must not come here much if you feel the need to add the *

Don't Fuck with me FD.

^ much better, now you understand how things work around here

Always did mate, always did.

meh, vdip had made you forgot.

yup - I now hardly ever frequent the lowlife hanging out over here. :)

YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT VDIP
THEY ACT DECENTLY DOWN THERE