<<<CURRENT PROPOSAL LIST>>>
These need to be seconded if they want to stand and re-voted on for clarity. A proposal and second are considered Yea votes. At the moment, I suggest we continue to assume that the GM’s rule of no vote = Nay vote stands, though I am not a fan.

<<Resources and trades>>
Prop 1.1: Spend 100 Silver to buy wool (Proposed: Brain)


Prop 1.2: Spend 100 Silver to buy Spices (Proposed: Brain)


Prop 1.3: Spend 400 Gold to buy mining kit (Proposed: Brain)

Prop 1.4: Spend 200 gold to purchase a Farming Kit (Proposed: Bo)


<<Experts>> (the three with the most Yea votes will be hired)
Prop 1.5: Hire Patrick Killian and allow him to bring his son. Agree to pay him 10 silver per phase or better based on quality of work. (Proposed: Brain)

Prop 1.6: Hire Nain Rouge. (Proposed: Brain)

Prop 1.7: Hire Lieutenant Webster. (Proposed: Bo)

Prop 1.8: Hire Admiral Augusta (Proposed: Claesar)

Prop 1.9: Hire Father Abba (Proposed: Claesar)

<<Research Queue>>
Proposal 1.10: Farming Tools 1. -> Farming Tools 2 (Proposed: Brain)


<<Tech Queue>>
Prop 1.11: Food Storage 1 -> Drying (Proposed: Brain)

Prop 1.12: Lumber yard (Proposed: Moscow)

<<Beliefs>>
Prop 1.13: Establish our new land as New webDipia. (Proposed: Bo)

Prop 1.14: Separation of Church and State
-The church has no say in matters of National security
-The church has no say in matters of Research
-The church had no say in matters of tech
-The church has no say in burial rites
-The church has no say in imposition of their beliefs into our school system
-The church will be taxed 60 silver per phase as of phase 5.
-The church will have zero say/involvement in foreign affairs, trade, or direct relations to any of our allies or enemies
(Proposed: Brain)

Proposal 1.15: Governance
- Governor: elected Councillor, chosen by the Councillors, with a term of 5 phases. Can be reelected. Can be voted out of office with unanimous vote (excluding his own, of course) by the Councillors. Responsibilities include but are not limited to sustaining relationships with colonists, working with the chosen specialists to make wise foreign policy decisions, and making rational and reasonable recommendations to the Councillors on a regular basis. May comment on all decisionmaking by the established government and serves as a strong, active, and impartial voice but can take no action unilaterally and does not receive extra votes other than the one they are awarded as a Councillor. The Councillors must still agree on proposals.
- Scribe: appointed by the Governor for his term(s). Responsible for writing, counting, and collecting votes from Councillors on proposals and for administering any necessary documents to be sent back to the mainland at the end of each phase.
- Colony Manager: appointed by the Governor for his term(s). Responsible for recommending building projects, rationing, and determining the basic necessities of the colonists, as well as relaying the needs of the colonists to the Councillors on a regular basis. Should be in constant communication with all specialists and with any other influential voices in the colony, thus, should be very actively participating here.
(Proposed: Bo)

Bugger, the Dr. Is missing. I will reorder it later, but for now

Prop 1.16: Hire Dr. Halliburton

I will ##Second Props 1.1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16

Happy to revote. I will second all of those proposals so that we can discuss, but I'm not typing that shit out. Following the seconding, this is how I vote.

##VOTE YEA 1.1
##VOTE NAY 1.2
##VOTE YEA 1.3
##VOTE YEA 1.4
##VOTE YEA 1.5
##VOTE NAY 1.6
##VOTE YEA 1.7
##VOTE NAY 1.8
##VOTE NAY 1.9
##VOTE YEA 1.10
##VOTE YEA 1.11
##VOTE YEA 1.12
##VOTE YEA 1.13
##VOTE NAY 1.14
##VOTE YEA 1.15

And ##VOTE YEA 1.16.

If we're not bringing a priest, then 1.14 is inherently nullified, no?

And in answer to your question, Cosmo, Cllr Poolio has unfortunately had to retire to look after his mother. So I make it 7 as well.

(Thank you kench, too clarify the no vote = nay, is meant to encourage participation further it makes sense that if someone doesn't vote yay in 48 hours than they likely disk then agree with it and should be counted as nay. In the US system abstentions are not counted as yes votes; but the thresholds for majority still include those abstention voters so in theory they effectively act as a no vote)

##Vote yea 1.10
##Vote yea 1.11
##Vote yea 1.12

Its gonna be really interesting to see which tech tree prop the GM accepts.

But we cant amend things or discuss them withiut being called corrupt and having all our hard work erased.

##VOTE Yea 1.1
##VOTE Yea 1.2
##VOTE Yea 1.3
##VOTE Yea 1.4
##VOTE Yea 1.5
##VOTE Nay 1.6
##VOTE Yea 1.7
##VOTE Nay 1.8
##VOTE Nay 1.9
##VOTE Yea 1.10
##VOTE Yea 1.11
##VOTE Abstain 1.12
##VOTE Yea 1.13
##VOTE Abstain 1.14
##VOTE Yea 1.15
##VOTE Yea 1.16

Cry me a river.

##GM - what quantitative benefits do slaves bring us?

*CaptainRick*
Slaves have always been useful for our kingdom. They cost half as much food to feed and are tradeable.

##VOTE Yea on 1.1
##VOTE Yea on 1.2
##VOTE Yea on 1.3
##VOTE Yea on 1.4
##VOTE Yea on 1.5
##VOTE Nay on 1.6
##VOTE Yea on 1.7
##VOTE Nay on 1.8
##VOTE Nay on 1.9
##VOTE Nay on 1.10
##VOTE Yea on 1.11
##VOTE Nay on 1.12
##VOTE Abstain on 1.13 (No opinion, but can be swayed on the subject)
##VOTE Nay on 1.14
##VOTE Yea on 1.15
##VOTE Nay on 1.16

I also wish to make the following propositions as alternatives for those in which I voted Nay.

Proposition 1.17
Research Engineering I - I believe that this will allow us to more efficiently and cost effectively construct our new colony, and provide for the various things we will need.

Proposition 1.18
Hire Professor Emery Steward - While this might earn us some ire from the King, I believe his expertise will be valuable for the growth and stability of the colony. I believe that we can collectively find ways to regain the Kings Favor despite this hire.

Proposition 1.19
Purchase the 10-Man Row Boat for 200 s - I believe that this will be necessary if we are to successfully scout the region and find the best locations for our colony to harvest resources

Proposition 1.20
Purchase a Fortifications Kit for 700g - Going into the unknown carries risks. I certainly don't want to be on the wrong end of a native spear, and the Walls will give us a little extra protection while we establish our troops and command.

Finally, Proposition 1.21 (Revision of Proposition 1.14) Religious Advisors to the State
The church shall have no say in matters of National Security
The church shall have no say in matters of Foreign Affairs including, but not limited to trade relations, communication, foreign policy, or the state of alliance or animosity with foreign agents.
The church shall have no say in matters of Intellectual Advancement, including but not limited to ongoing Research, Development, or Technological Innovation.
The church shall have advisory capacity in matters of Domestic Affairs, including but not limited to, Education of the populace, social customs, moral state of the colony.

Yeah, Cap'n Pickle, I know that, but what kind of productivity do they provide? How much return do we get from them versus the cost?

Cosmo, where are you getting the gold and silver necessary to make those purchases if you also vote yes to mining and farming kits?

I second 1.19 and ##VOTE YEA. We have spare silver, and it would be vastly helpful for exploration. The mountains are inland, far away from where we will be settling, and that us where the best mining will likely be. We should try to get there, and a rowboat helps us accomplish that.

I apologize for not explaining, I have set aside 300 food, 5 Gold, 10 Silver, and 10 Iron. The rest I have converted into the appropriate currency to make the transactions.

Slaves can be used on any work task, every slave equals 2 non-slave worker. So if a project requires 30 workers to be completed than youd need to put 15 slaves on it.
So slaves Pros:
-Half as much to feed
-Double the work
-tradeable
Slave cons:
-Unstable
-disloyal

I would also like to put forward the following propositions which I think will facilitate the economic and political discussions:

Proposition 1.22 - Voting Bylaws
- A quorum of the Council shall be defined to be four of the seven councillors
- An abstaining vote counts toward a quorum
- A councillor who does not vote shall have their vote recorded as abstaining, but this does not count toward a quorum
- For a vote on a proposition to be considered valid, a quorum must vote on the proposition
- For a proposition to succeed, the number of Yea's must outrank the number of Nay's, with abstaining votes counting for neither Yea's nor Nay's.

Proposition 1.23 - Silver Standard Act
- We shall define the Silver Equivalent Unit (SEU) as the standard currency for the colony.
- The SEU shall be defined as the worth of a resource in terms of one unit of Silver. The value in silver of a resource is therefore the amount of a commodity multiplied by its SEU.
- Using this definition the SEU of our standard resources are as follows:
- - - Food: 1/16
- - - Wood: 1/8
- - - Stone: 1/4
- - - Iron: 1/2
- - - Silver: 1
- - - Gold: 2

Using the Silver Standard Act, we have 3,043.75 SEU worth of resources. My supply votes and proposal would havee us perchase a Farming Kit, Mining Kit, Fortification Kit, Spices, Wool, and a Row Boat for a combined 3,000 SEU, leaving us with 43.75 SEU remaining, a small amount, but with the supplies we purchase, I believe we would regain that quickly.

I again believe that simple majorities are a bad way to go. If there are ample objections but a majority chooses to ignore them, the objections go unheard, and yet the people making the objections feel the penalty equally as those that didn't care. It is a bad system.

Slaves are more productive and less costly than workers, so we should hire 30.

##PROPOSAL 1.24

Hire 30 slaves (300 S, 150 U)

##VOTE Nay 1.17
##VOTE Nay 1.18
##VOTE Yea 1.19
##VOTE Nay 1.20 (it simply consumes too many of our resources)
##VOTE Abstain 1.21
##VOTE Nay 1.22 (I would vote yes if fifth line is amended to say: For a proposition to succeed the number of Yea’s must have at least a 2/3rd‘s majority of all votes cast, with abstaining votes counting for neither Yea's nor Nay's.)
##VOTE Yea 1.23 (A fine idea)

If we make it a majority of all votes cast that returns us to an abstaining vote = vote no. You're amendment would require 5 people to vote for it to count AND 3-4 YES votes depending on if we get 5 voters or 6-7 voters on a topic.

That sounds better to me than a simple majority.

Mid Card:
*Reward*
Councilor Brainbomb set out to find a Black Market contact. In doing so he found a gentleman by the name of Jonathan T. Emmett. Mr.Emmett was so interested in your expedition he decided to offer some deals:

Allow Mr.Emmett to join the expedition as a councilor. He wishes to establish ten new worlds hub of black market economy in your colony. (+2 Corruption, +1000 Silver, +250 gold per phase once his offices and a dock are built)

Congolese Slaves- 10 for 200 Silver
Opium- 200 silver (+1 Morale , -2 Health, tradeable)
Brotherhood of Steel Dossier- includes names of 4 known brotherhood of steel agents. (1000 Gold)

Unfortunately on his way back Councilor Brainbomb was attacked by an unknown person. As such he will not be joining us on our expedition.

...was that brainbomb's choice or what

I'm lost..

How long do we have until the deadline?

Are Congolese slaves more reliable than Playdipian ones? They seem to be double the price..

Playdipia is an enemy of ours. Why wouldn't we want them as slaves? Seems nuts to forgo that opportunity.

Opium is stupid. I don't want opium. Ever. We can't afford that dossier right now either.

I don't like the idea of a black market nor do I like the idea of someone running the black market becoming a Councillor. I wouldn't be opposed to taking him along for the ride and allowing him to set up if it weren't for the thought that the guy running the black market all of a sudden becomes one of the now six most powerful people in the colony.

(@bo- he asked to leave. )