@ Dargorygel: Yup. That's pretty much my trademark at this point. *sigh*

@Chaqa: Yes. that's totally what I'm doing.

Are you talking about M24 or Discord 4? I was not widely scumread in M24, I was somewhat widely bio-read. And in Discord 4 I nailed all three scum. I don't see your point.

@Ike: Keep in mind thaa I'm not agreeing with you of defending you. Just questioning BB's approach.

"We need more than "information-gathering" self-votes." and your vote is better than mine in what way?

@WD

Chaqa you may have "nailed" all three scum, but you convinced nobody of any of it. Your contributions were meaningless. It doesn't matter how right YOU think you are, it matters how right OTHERS thin you are. You did absolutely nothing to convince others, and are so caught up in your own "skill" you fail to realize that. For that you can go fuck yourself and get lynched.

@zorclex do you feel youve learned alot since the last time you were scum? You do seem more vocal than last two games.

@xorxes dont you usually dive in by now? I see you online. Whats your assessment here xorx? Whenever were on the same team we get good synergy. Why you hidin.

@Raging_ike... i know it's early... but do you feel that Mafia has changed since M9?

@BB: First, I'd like say that was well worded. Second, I'd like to say that I think I've learned at least a little from the last two games. I wouldn't say a lot because I died D1 last game.
And yes, I am more vocal. But that's because I have time to play right now, and I don't have to dig through dozens of pages of your crappy posts this time.

Xorx is also a fan of trying not to die d1. A good way to do that is to not talk and let people run around like chickens.

"Chaqa you may have "nailed" all three scum, but you convinced nobody of any of it. Your contributions were meaningless. It doesn't matter how right YOU think you are, it matters how right OTHERS thin you are. You did absolutely nothing to convince others, and are so caught up in your own "skill" you fail to realize that. For that you can go fuck yourself and get lynched."

Wow Ezio. You're clearly trying to lynch me for my actions in another game, a Discord one at fucking that. That's so fuckin stupid. Or scummy. Either way you're awful.

##vote Ezio

Care to explain how I'm wrong?

Or will you settle for me being "awful" because I think the way you play is terrible.

You're basing so much off a Discord game I didn't give two shits about, Ezio. You are voting off entirely irrelevant things to this game, and voting based on the events of a fuckin Discord game. The only reason you would do this is either because you're scum and want an easy lynch on someone who has drawn several early votes, or because you're really that bad at the game and don't realize how stupid you're being.

@dargorygel yes, it has, it's been ruined ever since M15 when BB showed up. In all seriousness, the game doesn't change, only the players do. With changing players comes new ideas and changing strategies. Do I know all these new ideas, strategies, and players? Nope, I did not go through all 15/16/17 however many games since I played.

The Ezio Chaqa thing makes me lean town on Ezio. Also leaning town on brain. Brain, can you tell me when you start drinking?

@Chaqa then why play if you're not going to care? Why did you join? For that I think you're an asshole, and you still didn't answer me. Why does it matter how correctly you scumread if you fail to convince anyone else of your reads?

Multiple reasons why my vote on you, Ike, is better than your vote on yourself: First, I'm not voting for the one person whose alignment I am 100% certain of. Second, I am voting for a person who seems inclined to hide his intentions for unknown reasons. Third, voting for oneself gathers little information except in how others see oneself. It doesn't interact with the complex group and tells you little of developing social structures and dynamics. I could go on, but I think I've made my point.

It doesn't matter why I joined Discord 4 or not. Old game. Old news. qqqqqqqqqq

It matters because after awhile people might start thinking "gee maybe I shouldn't discount Chaqa's opinion just because he didn't lengthen his case out to be the length of War and Peace"

Chaqa, if you don't give two shits about the Discord games, why do you keep bringing up your supposed greatness in them in the current webdip game?

@RagingIke: +1 for the BB comment. I wasn't around then, but I agree with you.

Oh that's real fuckin good Warden. He brought that shit up, not me. Don't manipulate things. Not giving two shits and being right is still better than caring a lot and being wrong.

Also, Ezio, speaking of Discord, you're reminding me of how you played then, too, which was extremely wrong and bad town. ##unvote

Chaqa being right =/= being good at the game, which you clearly think you are.

You can't be good at the game if you're wrong. Convincing everyone to vote for the wrong guy doesn't make you good at the game either.

I just realized I forgot I about zorclex.

@zorclex: what exactly are you trying to get payback for?

@WD. Point 1: moot, everyone does that. Point 2: If you tell everyone what you're doing, scum gets that info too. Point 3: My vote was on myself for less than 2 hours. Go on......

@Chaqa: I'm somewhat arbitrarily blaming you for getting me lynched last game. It's easier than blaming my bad play and inexperience.

@RagingIke: Yes, but I in my experience that's better than not letting the town have any information.
And sure, you voted yourself for less than two hours. And yet, how many people did you get to vote for you in that time?

@Raging_Ike... are you ready, then, to tell us your plan?