My game went about as long as it could go because the Vig was neutralized immediately, and then it went all the way down to three player LYLO, but yes, vanilla games do generally take longer.

There also was no third party in ghug's game

Wait there is a third party here?
That ain't vanilla then.

right so this is basic math. lets say by some crazy turn of events we lynch arsonist day 1, and mafia roleblocks and nightkills the vig N1 before hes ever shot. This is WCS because now its

21 players
16 Town vs 5 Mafia
and no matter what else happens only 1 person dies per night, at a rate of 2 people dying every phase

Day 2 -1
Night 1 -1
=19 players still alive after 5 days of playing.

Day 3 -1
Night 3 -1

17 plays still alive after 8 days of playing

Day 4 -1
Night 4 -1

15 players alive after 11 days of playing


Day 5 -1
Night 5 -1

13 players are still alive after 14 days of playing. (that seems abnormally high)
(Its also now December 13th in this scenario)

Day 6 -1
Night 6 -1
11 Players are still alive (assuming the entire mafia team hasnt been lynched perfectly by this point **Highly unlikely**)

Day 7 -1
Night 7 -1
Its now 6 days til christmas and theres still 9 people in this game. Likely the game is nowhere near lylo.

Day 8 -1
Night 8 -1
were at 7 players and its now Dec 22, assuming nobody has hammered any previous phases **WHICH WE MAY WANT TO HAMMER MORE OFTEN IF YOU READ THIS CLOSELY**

Day 9 -1
Night 9 -1

Were finally at possible lylo and guess what. its xmas day.... whats the plan for this?

in any case I am not saying I have a problem with it at all. however a setup like this actually hurts people who post alot, as opposed to lurkers. because, if i'm being honest, longevity play favors a very small group of players on this site.

A game this big should probably have two Vigs. Third parties are stupid though. Vash should be ashamed.

a vig and a sniper would even be fine by me

or give the vig unlimited bullets

##CALL GM will the phase be extended for just Christmas Day, or also for Christmas Eve? Christmas is on a Sunday this year.

The GM will cross that bridge when he comes to it...but also The GM will be very busy Christmas Eve.

##CAL GM -- Will there be any miraculous resurrections in this game?

No. We may end neat Christmas...not easter

If the game continues into Easter, will players be expected to give up using meta for lent?

Why did Bo replace me on the sub list?

Official sign up list:

1. brainbomb
2. DemonRHK
3. ghug
4. ezio
5. Floodgates
6. MoscowFleet
7. Ragin Ike
8. DemonOverlord
9. krellin
10. Kakarroto
11. peterlund
12. Hellenic Riot
13. teacon7
14. Chaqa
15. WardenDresden
16. xorxes
17. Vecna
18. rdrivera2005 on the beach
19. Glen_Alexander
20. Jamiet99uk
21. maniac
22. Oztra
23. zorclex

Subs
1. ND
2. goldfinger0303
3. guak
4. reedeer1
5.bo

Notable names missing: ObGYN, Y2k, Balki, TrPrado, Dargorygel, DeathLlama8.

There is enough players to literally have 2 games, its a shame forum is unwilling to expand the rules on mafia to allow such things

and yoyo, Fluminator, wow. seriously we have almost 40 mafia players on webdip now

I will be having a role in this coming mafia game, don't worry ;)

I can i join

sigh, if this is another one of those everyone is a day vig lets waste a week of everyones time kinda games, count me out.

also question, what is a mafia game?

Oztra dont play if you dont have a clue. there is alot of people who want to play.

Vash, seriously, they forced you out as a mod. they forced you to GM this game. and the best you can come up with is a vig that dies if he shoots town? and an arsonist that isnt immune to night kill? youve got 28 people who want to play a real game. Pull your head out of your ass, stop sheeping what ghug wants and make this a real setup. Because this is just gonna be a page count driven clusterfuck

and theres only about 6 players that this style of play favors. weve seen this before and its boring as shit

I still want to see a resurrection event in a game of mafia. It would be *fantastic*....

I dare a creative GM to make it happen.

It's in my plans whenever I GMnext.

Agreed. Necromancy is a must

We should have a 40-player mega game. 10 maf, 5 third parties (each playing for themselves), 25 PR.

Despite me wanting to be part of this game, I have come to realise that I actually do not have time for this game. I have just too much going on at my work and privately during December to take part. Spot nr 11 is free for others to take.

1. brainbomb
2. DemonRHK
3. ghug
4. ezio
5. Floodgates
6. MoscowFleet
7. Ragin Ike
8. DemonOverlord
9. krellin
10. Kakarroto
11.
12. Hellenic Riot
13. teacon7
14. Chaqa
15. WardenDresden
16. xorxes
17. Vecna
18. rdrivera2005
19. Glen_Alexander
20. Jamiet99uk
21. maniac
22. Oztra
23. zorclex

Subs
1. ND
2. goldfinger0303
3. guak
4. reedeer1
5. bo