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Crazyter (1335 D(G))
14 Aug 10 UTC
Extreme Board Contest
Accepting Nominations for the most extreme-looking boards on this site, for example "ugliest," "most attractive", "funniest". Include link to the game you are nominating.
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
18 Aug 10 UTC
Ancient Med Winning Threshold
How many SC's do I need to take to win an Ancient Med game?
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Bob Genghiskhan (1233 D)
18 Aug 10 UTC
A live one
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=36085

Bet is 101, full press.
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Bob Genghiskhan (1233 D)
17 Aug 10 UTC
Jesus fuck, I am in the worst goddam gunboat ever
Russia quits when they are the largest power on the board. Austria's a total moron who has completely ignored the growth of a huge Turkey in order to persist in attacking Italy, and England is getting gutted like a sea bass because he wants to attack France and Germany simultaneously, while they're attacking each other. Yecch, this game sucks.
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Bob Genghiskhan (1233 D)
18 Aug 10 UTC
A live game, starting on the hour
gameID=36080

PM me or respond in this thread for the password to a WTA game with a stake of 25.
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Pantalone (2043 D(S))
18 Aug 10 UTC
New Live Game - Commedia dell"Arte LIVE 8 - gameID=36059
What better way to spend your lunch break today...? (Western European Summer Time).
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Can I bump with an unspported convoy?
thanks in advance for any help
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The_Master_Warrior (10 D)
07 Aug 10 UTC
HOMOSEXUALITY IS A CHOICE
I just read an interesting editorial in my local paper. See below. (Wait for me to post first)
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The Czech (39715 D(S))
15 Aug 10 UTC
@Jamiet99uk
Since the Supreme Court has been overturning gun banning/gun control laws in the US, the gun death rate has gone down from 15.22 to 11.66. There's your fact. Fact #2 that the UK doesn't mention, England Wales/Scotland and Northern Ireland statistics are kept separate. N. Ireland has a 6.22 gun death rate while England-Wales has only a .38 and Scotland has a .58. I find it hard to believe that N. Ireland has loose gun control laws which, if we follow your argument, would account for the much higher gun death rate than the rest of Great Britain's. :P
Draugnar (0 DX)
15 Aug 10 UTC
Oh and since when are guns banned all over the UK? Hunting rifles and shotguns are all over the countryside. Right?
The Czech (39715 D(S))
15 Aug 10 UTC
@Draugnar
Not sure if that last post was directed to me or not, but I think Jamiet99uk's point was in comparing the US's loose gun control compared to UK's tighter gun control. Obviously not working too well in N Ireland especially since peace was declared back in the 90's.
Draugnar (0 DX)
15 Aug 10 UTC
No someone else (Jamie maybe) said guns were virtually banned in the UK. I was just pointing out no such thing is true. Handguns are effectively banned, but not *all* guns are.
Octavious (2701 D)
15 Aug 10 UTC
@ The Czech

I would be cautious of mentioning the high gun rate in NI or you run the risk of starting a debate about what to do about the rogue state of the USA and its funding of terrorism in Ireland.

@ Draugnar

I live in the happy land of Somerset (south west UK) in which one can say, as the film Hot Fuzz so accurately put, everyone and their mums is packin' round here! I can think of around 30 shot guns and a few rifles in private hands within walking distance of my house, and another few dozen in the local gun shop. It's probably worth pointing out though that none of these weapons are much use as defensive firearms, and are pretty much limited to farming and game keeping tools (although a friend did once have great fun cutting down a tree with his shot gun :D)
Draugnar (0 DX)
15 Aug 10 UTC
I agree Oct. My point is that banning all guns is stucking fupid. Handguns should be restricted to semi autos and revolvers only and only be carried in public by trained and licensed security personnel (i.e. cops, armored car security, and private security for celebs). And modern semi-auto offensive rifles should be banned along with full auto rifles. Want to keep that M16A1 from your days in the Corps? It must have the barrel blocked and be made non-operational. But hunting rifles and shotguns are perfectly normal weapons with a purpose other than killing your fellow man.
SynalonEtuul (1050 D)
15 Aug 10 UTC
Guns that would be dangerous to people are very difficult to get in England. I don't know about N. Ireland but I think the higher rate of gun crime there is likely due to the extreme tension that still exists there.
Mafialligator (239 D)
15 Aug 10 UTC
Please guys, stop telling me that gun ownership reduces crime because then would be victims can just shoot would be criminals willy nilly, and voila, problem solved! I've heard that theory before. I've had this debate before, and I think I already made my point that there is little actual evidence to support this theory in real life. And the more I have that debate, the more and more I'm convinced that that's completely beside the point. For this whole "gun ownership as protection" thing to work, some people have to be willing to actually shoot a would be criminal, and you know what? I think that's a problem in and of itself. Is your wallet worth another person's life? Mine sure as hell isn't.

And even so, none of this is relevant in a discussion of the 2nd amendment. TMW walking down the street holding a gun a "well regulated militia"? No, no he isn't.
My point is, frankly I don't see what you blasting a would-be mugger in the head, has anything to do with maintaining the security of a free state. In a free state there is a justice system, where the most heinous of criminals can still expect a fair trial and the due process of the law, and no one, not even mugging victims, are allowed to act as judge, jury and executioner.
@ Jack_Klein -- I thought you were ignoring me, but I'll respond anyway.

"Point 1. Well regulated militia. Regardless of how good or bad you are at handling your firearm, you personally are not a well regulated militia.

Point 2. When the amendment was written, single shot long arms were the pinnacle of man-portable weapons. You can heft a M249 if you're burly, and that's a hell of a lot more firepower than any private citizen has any possible use for.

Point 3: The ability of the state and federal government to pass regulations on firearm ownership has never been disputed by the Courts, only the particular application of regulations.

Point 4: If you're going to quote something, include the whole quote, because if you don't, some clever law student like myself will come along and show how much of a hack you are.

Point 5: Before you even mention it, I'll address what I bet you're going to counter with. Yes, the 14th amendment was not written with the current immigrant issue in mind. However, back then, immigration was effectively unregulated (with some racist regulations against Chinese people, which are held today to be fairly embarrassing).

Point 6: In the modern world, if some crazy leader managed to actually arrange to get the Army to move against the people in a coup or something, what the fuck are you going to do against a completely modern army with an M-14? I know you seem to have fantasies about playing out the movie Red Dawn, but really?"

Point 1 -- You're right. I am not a "well regulated militia". But I just finished telling Mafialligator that the Second Amendment doesn't apply just for the Militia. It applies for everyone.

Point 2 -- The amount of firepower doesn't matter. What matters is my right to carry firepower. Most gunowners don't want a squad automatic weapon. Pistols are practical and easily concealable. That's why most people who have a gun have a pistol. If you sling an M1A in public, it's not because that's what you chose for your carry-weapon. You're making a statement. If I were to sling my M1A in public, outside of an NRA rally, it would be an unspoken statement: "Don't fuck with me."

Point 3 -- Not true. The NRA and Gun Owners of America challenge nearly every gun-control law passed.

Point 4 -- I already explained why the first part of the Second Amendment is irrelevant. I assumed that I wouldn't need to include it in the quote.

Point 5 -- I wasn't going to shift this into immigration. Your assumption is incorrect.

Point 6 -- A coup wouldn't happen in America. And if it did, it would be a Tea Party, Libertarian-backed anti-government coup. Also, I really hope MGM manages to get the new Red Dawn movie out. It will be a real eye-opener for America. The Chinese are not to be trusted. And every American has to ask themselves: "What would I do if we got invaded tomorrow?"

@ Mafialligator --

There are virtually no gun-control laws in Arizona. If I wanted to, I could walk around downtown Phoenix with my beloved M1A. And no one could do shit. Is Phoenix a lawless wasteland? I visit Arizona a lot. And I can tell you, from personal experience, that it is most certainly NOT a lawless wasteland.
Mafialligator (239 D)
16 Aug 10 UTC
No, but Phoenix does have a higher crime rate than London or Toronto or Sydney.
Master Warrior-

Who the fuck has the logistical capability to invade the US? Let's say the PRC takes a shot at it.

1. How are they getting here?
2. How are they supplying themselves when they get here?

We have over half of the world's aggregate naval strength. There's no way on earth, barring development of teleportation technology exclusively by the PRC, that any rival, or indeed, coalition of rivals, could do more than dream about invading the United States of America.
Draugnar (0 DX)
16 Aug 10 UTC
Besides, China owns us as it is. They don't want to destroy us militarily.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
16 Aug 10 UTC
Draug +1

Honestly, a second US civil war is more likely than China attacking us. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

However, your point stands. It would be very hard for even a few countries banding together to take on the US.
Mafialligator (239 D)
16 Aug 10 UTC
"You're right. I am not a "well regulated militia". But I just finished telling Mafialligator that the Second Amendment doesn't apply just for the Militia. It applies for everyone."
Yes you told me that, but you did nothing to back it up. You just arbitrarily asserted that with no support whatsoever.
In that case I can just say the 14th amendment does apply to gays, because...yeah. Whatever.
The difference here is of course that I really actually can back up my assertion that the 14th amendment should apply to gays.
"I think that's a problem in and of itself. Is your wallet worth another person's life? Mine sure as hell isn't."

The idea in a mugging situation, I'd imagine, is less "Would I shoot a man to keep my wallet?" and more "What dumbass would SEE someone with a gun and still mug him?" Simply carrying your handgun in a holster should be enough to deter a mugger -- sure, you're not likely to shoot him if he has the balls to try anyway, but he wouldn't risk it.

The threat of being shot, in that case and in a lot of other cases, would be more powerful than the actualization of that threat.
Mafialligator (239 D)
16 Aug 10 UTC
I do see your point, but it still hardly seems like a reasonable or effective solution. I don't get all these people who seem to think that the only way to maintain a civil society is for everyone to be packing heat. Things simply don't work that way in most of the western world, and most of the rest of the western industrialized world has less crime than the US. Correlation =/= causation, but I think it's fair to say that gun ownership is not the only solution. Why not try something that isn't liable to get people killed.
Mafialligator (239 D)
16 Aug 10 UTC
"Point 6 -- A coup wouldn't happen in America. And if it did, it would be a Tea Party, Libertarian-backed anti-government coup. Also, I really hope MGM manages to get the new Red Dawn movie out. It will be a real eye-opener for America. The Chinese are not to be trusted. And every American has to ask themselves: "What would I do if we got invaded tomorrow?""
An eye opener for america? Really? For the first time you may have literally rendered me speechless. I have absolutely no idea how to reply to that. You see, I'm used to speaking to people who reside on planet earth.
Jack_Klein (897 D)
16 Aug 10 UTC
So you want to pick and choose which parts of the Constitution you want to pay attention to?

So, when did you become a fascist with contempt for the rule of law?
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
16 Aug 10 UTC
@ Dr._The_Master_Warrior_PhD: You haven't answered my question about your use of the phrase "any weapon".

So I assume you do genuinely believe that an US citizen who can afford to obtain a nuclear weapon has a clear Constitutional Right to own one.

Dumbass.
@ Jamiet --

I do genuinely believe that. But no sane citizen has any use for (or means to obtain) a nuclear weapon. And insane people are barred from owning weapons.

Dumbass.

@ Jack_Klein --

I don't pick and choose what parts of the Constitution I follow. I'm in favor of a rigid interpretation. I'm just trying to point out the double standard that was created with the repealment of Prop 8.

@ Mafialligator --

A) Support? Why do I need support? Militias don't need to be given the right to own and bear arms. If they weren't armed, it wouldn't be a militia. The Second Amendment applies to every citizen. It's right there in black-and-white. Would I need to prove the statement "Black bears are black."? No. I don't need to back it up because it's obvious.

B) Like I said, (if they manage to release it before they go bankrupt) Red Dawn will be a real eye-opener. It will make every American stop and think. It was a thought-provoking movie in 1984, and it will be a thought-provoking movie in November (or whenever it gets released). Nobody thought the Japanese would bomb Pearl Harbor. Nobody though al-Qaeda was going to make a major military attack on the United States. We have a dangerous mindset about China. As soon as we get the mindset that we're untouchable, someone bombs us, invades us, attacks us, or kills our fellow citizens. Like I said, people like me are going to be shunned as paranoid alarmists. That is, until, there are MiG-21s over your town and T-72s rolling down your street. After the fact, we'll be regarded as psychics. Vigilence is the price of safety. We are letting our guard down.
Jack_Klein (897 D)
16 Aug 10 UTC
There is no double standard. Your lack of understanding of Constitutional Law is quite amazing.

Yes, Red Dawn was a major prophetic movie, because we were really invaded by a coalition of Russians, Latin American States, with a nuke being detonated over DC.

You're a paranoid 16 year old idiot. There is a three letter abbreviation to why the US will never be invaded.

USN.

It wasn't a thought provoking movie when it came out, unless you're a phallic worshiping gun nut with fantasies about war being an ennobling process. You are a walking, talking argument for more abortions, you know that?
Draugnar (0 DX)
16 Aug 10 UTC
The doctors tried a partial birth abortion with TMDiplofool but he lived. His mom tries every year to kill him on his borthday, yet still he lives. He is a monster waiting to devour us all with stupidity until we all become blubbering idiots like himself.
"@ Dr._The_Master_Warrior_PhD"

Dude, Jamiet, we're nowhere near each other politically but you're quickly becoming one of my favorite posters.
"I do see your point, but it still hardly seems like a reasonable or effective solution. I don't get all these people who seem to think that the only way to maintain a civil society is for everyone to be packing heat. Things simply don't work that way in most of the western world, and most of the rest of the western industrialized world has less crime than the US. Correlation =/= causation, but I think it's fair to say that gun ownership is not the only solution. Why not try something that isn't liable to get people killed."

I, personally, wouldn't say that gun control laws would lead to chaos and anarchy. And someone arguing something along those lines needs to be slapped. ...But if the goal is simply to find a "good" system, there is no argument. Depending on your view, both sides work or they don't, but they aren't so significantly different that one can be deemed "good" and the other "bad."

What I would hope this discussion is geared toward is which of the two is better (or perhaps which of a number of options is the best) -- because a hearty debate needs clash, and "good" clash does not create.

As for the more specific critiques. I was merely suggesting one possible method of defense. I don't think the logic is unreasonable. ...Another thought came to mind with your situation. What happens if you tell a mugger "no"? Odds are you get shot, yes? The one attacking you is willing to kill you over some money. ...Of course, one doesn't want to stoop to a mugger's level of morality, but if the other one intends to kill you, are you not justified to meet his level of determination? I can totally understand you (or anyone else) being unwilling to do that myself, and I respect that. I don't think it's the only response.

And I'd say either one is liable to get someone killed. For every lunatic that snaps with a legally-owned gun, there's a criminal shooting people up with an illegal one. In Baton Rouge, we had an effort, Project Exile, in the metro region some years back to handle the ridiculous amount of illegal guns by getting citizens involved. The response was strong, but insufficient. Maybe it's different where you live, but here the level of illegal gun ownership is to the point where gun control laws would definitely put us at greater risk of being killed.
Mafialligator (239 D)
16 Aug 10 UTC
OK, see, I knew you were missing my point somewhere, and now I've found out where. I was not arguing that the second amendment says that only militias have the right to bear arms. What I'm arguing is that because of social change which has occurred since 1791, the right of the people to keep and bear arms is no longer necessary to the security of a free state. The wording of the second amendment makes it clear that it's authors did not foresee (and who could have expected them to?) the industrial revolution, and a time when the security of the United States would not require every 16 year old former military aeronautics professor to walk down the street carrying a semi-automatic.

And uhhh, no China will not invade. You know why? These little things called trade relations. Military action against the US would alienate most of the world and completely demolish all the inroads China has made in establishing trade relations with the US, the EU, and basically every other industrialized, developed nation on the planet. There may be some benefit to them invading the US, but it would be vastly vastly outweighed by the cost, and the leadership of the PRC is not stupid, they completely see this.
@ Jack_Klein -- I believe it's actually a four-letter abbreviation:

USAF.

You gotta love interservice rivalries, man.

@ Mafialligator --

Yes, there has been a lot of change since 1791. I'm not disputing that. I could also say that there's been a lot of change since 1865. Does that void the 14th Amendment? NOW do you see the double standard? "The right to keep and bear arms is no longer necessary to the security of a free state.". Also false. One of the reasons America would be so hard to conquer is our high gun-ownership rate. There are a lot of hunters in America. Most of those hunters have rifles that could bring down a deer. Anything that could bring down a deer could sure as hell bring down a Red Chinese soldier. Which means that any hunter could be a guerilla sniper. And that's not even taking into account owners of multiple guns, like myself, who could supply weapons to someone with a knowlegde of firearms, like a former Boy Scout or a fomer soldier. Almost every American citizen has the means to become a soldier or help a potential war effort.

China won't invade tomorrow, or next week, or even any time this decade. They're going to wait until they have enough money in reserve to outlast us in a war of attrition. They're also going to wait until our military is crippled by defense cuts. They might even wait until we get rid of our ICBMs. Even if we have nukes, we're not going to use them, because everyone prefers invasion to hundreds of nukes exploding everywhere.
Mafialligator (239 D)
17 Aug 10 UTC
Pfffffffffffft "One of the reasons America would be so hard to conquer is our high gun-ownership rate." That's an absolutely ludicrous thing to say. Seriously, I just sprayed iced tea all over my keyboard. By the time private gun owners are the front line in a war against an invading Chinese army, it's too late. America has already lost.

No, there still is no double standard if you reevaluate the validity of the 2nd amendment but not the 14th, and the reason is this; from where I'm standing the necessity of private gun ownership for the security of a free state is I feel questionable, (again, the rest of the western world proving that liberty does not require firepower). Equal legal protection for all citizens on the other hand is still very easily demonstrably necessary for a country founded on the principle that all men are created equal. In other words, if you like, we could re evaluate both amendments. Gun ownership necessary for a free state? Questionable! Equal legal status for all citizens necessary for creating legal equality? Self-evidently true.
Miro Klose (595 D)
17 Aug 10 UTC
"One of the reasons America would be so hard to conquer is our high gun-ownership rate."

Why the hell should someone invaded the USA?
Mafialligator (239 D)
17 Aug 10 UTC
Or, to put it another way, you have to evaluate the rationale behind a rule, you can't simply follow it and say, "well it's written down so that's what we have to do". And if you look at the rationale behind the 14th amendment, it's pretty clear what it is. The goal is to create legal equality for all citizens, it's a fairly straightforward and admirable motivation, especially in a country founded on the principle that all people are created, and therefore should be treated, equal. The motivation behind the second amendment is more complicated. Apparently the reason why the right of the people to keep and bear arms should not be infringed is because a well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state. So the key to understanding the motivation behind the second amendment is in understanding the link drawn between private gun ownership and a well regulated militia. I believe, and I could be wrong about this, so if my facts are way off, someone OTHER THAN TMW, please do correct me, that back in 1791 the US military was much more loosely organized than today, and the idea of individual citizens rising up and defending their homeland was a much more feasible idea. However since the assembly line had not yet been developed, guns could not be mass produced and instead were much rarer and much harder to come by, so individual citizens joining defensive militias would be expected to provide their own firearms. Nowadays military technology has progressed to the point that the kinds of firearms that people do have access to would be of little to no use against an invading force armed with equipment like rocket propelled grenades, armoured cars, tanks and aircraft. This makes the idea of private citizens rising up against an invading force a completely futile effort, your Red Dawn fantasies aside. Furthermore, the advent of mass production has made the concept of providing your own firearm for military service completely obsolete as now firearms have become relatively inexpensive and easy to produce. Consequently the army can provide weapons to all of its members regardless of whether or not they own their own guns.
And that is why it is not a double standard.

And in response to your comment that the PRC will definitely invade, it'll just take longer than a decade...that's a very foolish thing to say. You don't know what global geopolitics will look like 10 years down the road. I don't either; no one does. I can't say it with any kind of certainty, but I will say this: over the past several decades, since Nixon's visit, China has been pretty consistently moving towards increasing openness and co-operation with the West. This trend has done nothing, if not accelerate over the past 10 years, and this kind of social change tends to have a certain inertia, I expect this trend to continue until eventually relations become so close that China and a number of western powers, probably including the US become full allies. I'm not saying it's impossible for an invasion to occur, but this conciliatory trend would very, very, very likely not only stop, but actually begin to reverse before a Chinese invasion became a real concern. In other words, if it were going to happen we'd have lots of warning. I know what you'll say "they wont' telegraph their moves so obviously etc etc etc." But Diplomacy =/= life. That's simply not how things work in the real world, because the longer that Sino-American relations remain amicable, the more severe the consequences of invading will become.
diplomat61 (223 D)
17 Aug 10 UTC
Why would China invade the US? The answer is natural resources, because there economy is sucking them in as fast as it can.

Why won't they invade? Because they can get the natural resources they need easier & cheaper elsewhere, just look at what they are doing in Africa.

In 50 years China will have the kind of dominant position in the world economy and thus politically that America had 10-20 years' ago. Military invasion won't be necessary, they will have you economically.

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Kaiasian (624 D)
18 Aug 10 UTC
What's with the gunboat?
Why is gunboat so popular here? I can't find a standard game without a password.
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
16 Aug 10 UTC
Sitterness
I am having some 'challenges' at the office and need to ensure that I can concentrate on them for the next two weeks; trying to see if anyone can sit for me
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Crazyter (1335 D(G))
18 Aug 10 UTC
error message in Ancient Med game
"Parameter 'fromTerrID' set to invalid value '3'." appeared
when I tried to save my orders. I will attempt to PM Kestas the details.

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Face to Face Help...
Trying to set up a face to face game with friends but we don't have a board and we'll likly have a hard time finding on. Is there a way to use a web site as the board? A way to have on admin input all the moves and have it play out?

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The_Master_Warrior (10 D)
12 Aug 10 UTC
Cars
What do you own? What's your dream car?
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diplonerd (173 D)
18 Aug 10 UTC
Ancient Med Live
Anyone down?

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=36053
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ava2790 (232 D(S))
17 Aug 10 UTC
HIgh stakes PPSC Live Anon Gunboat
gameID=36029 Starts in 30 minutes.

Above all, please keep it classy.
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curtis (8870 D)
18 Aug 10 UTC
gunboat live wta
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Face to Face Help.
Is there a website that will allow me have one person (an admin) to input all the nations moves and let it play out? That way I don't have to buy a board game and we don't have to deal with peaces getting moved. Anyother way to use a computer to manage a face to face game?
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Sicarius (673 D)
14 Aug 10 UTC
You don't own other people.
So stop trying
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LordVipor (566 D)
17 Aug 10 UTC
Quick question about move, can't find in test cases
Lets say a territory T is surrounded by five countries/seas, lets name them A, B, C, D, and E.
T, A, B, C, and D all have armies in them
(Continued below)
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anlari (8640 D)
17 Aug 10 UTC
Convoy failure - why?
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=34039

Can anyone tell me why Russia's convoy failed?
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sayonara123 (100 D)
17 Aug 10 UTC
I have a question.
I just joined a live game (there are all 7 players) and it said the game will start on the next proccess cycle. What's a proccess cycle?
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jmeyersd (4240 D)
15 Aug 10 UTC
Gunboat Done Properly
I've tried three gunboat games today, all of which have been spoiled by no-shows and cds. Frankly, I find it ridiculous that 3 games be ruined this way. If anyone is interested in doing it properly, I will create a 50 point buy-in game scheduled to start in 30 minutes. If you join, show up.
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acmac10 (120 D(B))
17 Aug 10 UTC
locked symbol next to some threads.....
ok i was looking back at some of the old threads and they have locks....

i cant post on them...are they too old or something?
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Julien (2065 D)
17 Aug 10 UTC
New gunboat live game - join now!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=35986
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Julien (2065 D)
17 Aug 10 UTC
one more player needed for a live game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=35976
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
17 Aug 10 UTC
A new Ancient Med game, 101 bet PPSC!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=35982

La Plus Ancienne...c'est bon!
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svenson (101 D)
17 Aug 10 UTC
Country Statistics
I was going to post a suggestion that a feature that allowed us to view our country statistics including how we ended the games with each one and our percentages would be a really cool feature.
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Conservative Man (100 D)
15 Aug 10 UTC
The best band ever
See inside
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ava2790 (232 D(S))
17 Aug 10 UTC
Gunboat - please keep it classy
gameID=35965

Starts in 30. Usual theme. Don't CD. read orders. Please finalize.
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Benibo (727 D)
16 Aug 10 UTC
Can a fleet at Constantinople convoy?
Can a fleet placed in Constantinople convoy an army?
Same question with Denmark.
Thanks in advance.
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