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Yoyoyozo (65 D)
07 Dec 17 UTC
Possible cheating loophole.
Is there a congressman I can talk to to run a scenario past about the new proposed tax plan..
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Smokey Gem (154 D)
07 Dec 17 UTC
Possible cheating loophole.
Is there a mod I can PM to run a senario past..
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ND (879 D)
29 Nov 17 UTC
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Landslide Victory
If President Trump and the Republicans pass the tax cuts then they are on their way to a landslide 2020 electoral victory (and 2018). Let's get it done! We can and will Make America Great Again!!!! #MAGA
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Jamiet99uk (865 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
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Oh my sweet Jesus, ND, stop using that made-up phrase.

I am a socialist, and I can tell you that I have not meet a single person who would identify as a "cultural Marxist". There is no theoretical body of work that would purport to be "cultural Marxism" or would properly describe it. It is a far-right fabrication used as an umbrella term for anything from taxes to gay and reproductive rights to Jews controlling the world, and the term reaches back to Nazi Germany persecuting Leftist authors and artists.

For as long as you keep using that term, I'm going to refer to anything you say that I disagree with as "cultural Nazism", okay?
Jamiet99uk (865 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
*have not met
brainbomb (290 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
You still think that Southern Democrats exist and that they supported slavery so they must still be around in congress
ishirkmywork (1401 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
paraphrasing ND:
"I mean yeah in the 1960s when Baby Boomers were just starting out as adults there was racism and sexism and inequality etc, but now in 2017 when Baby Boomers control all the levers of power and Donald Trump is president none of these things can possibly exist."
ND (879 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
“The fact you breathe the same air as we do is offensive”

I sincerely hope that wasn’t a threat Brainbomb.

As to the rest of your points. I never said any of that in this current thread, but to clarify. The Democratic Party is the same political organization that existed 150+ years ago. Sure, it has changed but the general strategy of a upper echelon of elites that commit fraud (Hillary/Bill) and manipulate voters while enriching themselves remains the same. As for feminism, I mean everyone is equal and one cannot be more equal then someone else. It’s not supported in the Constitution so yeah I would classify it as a cult.

The Democratic Party seems to support a lot of fringe science and cult movements like feminism, socialism, global warming (total fraud and fake by the way).

@Jamie: Yeah it’s not really something identifiable. No one goes around and says it. Cultural Marxism is a unique political ideology formed by the Frankfurt School. I know that the left believes in revisionist history and wants to rewrite history, but until people like me are completely gone there will always be people who collect primary sources and documentation from the period. You can’t eliminate true history Jamie, well not yet anyway. Maybe when your precious government starts burning hard copies and consolidates everything online you can purge true historical records, but until then there will always be people who search for truth in history and I have stacks of records from the Frankfurt School as it was a primary research area for me when I achieved my M.A. in History. Nice try, but you should study up more on Marxism and it's components if you claim to be one.

The Frankfurt School specifically studied cultural institutions associated with Western Capitalism. They looked at Art, Jazz, Film, Poetry, etc. They interjected praxis and critical theory into all of these cultural institutions associated with Western Capitalism to critique and ultimately change it to fit Marxist models. Gender Studies, Social Justice, Studies into Sexuality, etc all formed from this in the 1970s after their body of work was translated from German into English. It's absolute historical fact that this occurred.

Also, your point in stating that the Nazi’s were far-right is historically incorrect. The Nazi’s, truly, were beyond the modern political spectrum, meaning they do not fit on it. Historically they were a Socialist Party, albeit a (national) Socialist party. They believed in socialism at the national level and were opposed by German Socialist party's that were international in nature and tied to the Communist movement. Additionally, they combined this with a ugly and evil ethnic/racial component. So, in truth the Nazi’s were left and right and obsessed with many of the progressive tenets of the time: eugenics, racial science, etc.

There is no such thing as cultural nazism though so that is not a historical term like cultural marxism is. Again, you can’t just rewrite history, although many progressive try to do so to hide their ugly and hateful past.
Durga (3609 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
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From now on, can we just make it the duty of the not stupid conservatives to tell him why he's so wrong?
ND (879 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
About the type of intellectual and educational reply I would expect...
brainbomb (290 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
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You just made a hateful post that mischaracterizes an entire political idealogy. You dismissed feminism and global warming in the same breath. This is intolerance. This is political bigotry. The democratic party of today isnt even the same as it was 20 years ago under Bill Clinton. Let that sink in.

Youre talking fucking nonsense
ND (879 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
They just ran Hillary Clinton who never once denounced her Husband. Try again Brain!
ND (879 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
Bill Clinton literally had a 92 Presidential Election button featuring a confederate flag with his name on it. I mean, come on. Jesus Christ.
brainbomb (290 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
Why the hell would she need to denounce her own husband? Also the politics of today and her solutions to them are radically different than the 90's. The same issues are different.

brainbomb (290 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
No he didnt. The article you posted about that literally stated those buttons werent made/distributed by the campaign and therss zero reason to assume they were
ND (879 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
Uh huh, k, whatever you want to believe buddy keep those truth blinders on lol.
brainbomb (290 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
You seem to only denounce the rebel flags when its a spurrious article implyimg bill clinton used a racist symbol as a tool to get votes.

This is a special type of ridiculous. You were vocal about how tearing down confederate statues is erasing history. You were vocal.about the rebel flag being a symbol of freedom of speech.

And yet you think democrats are in favor of slavery.

You are...

Probably the most ridiculous person ive ever encountered
That is the nicest thing I have to say.

The majority of people who wave rebel flags are southern republicans.
Fact


brainbomb (290 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
The fact you keep bringing it up shows that you are trying to appear to be against slavery but only insofar as you attribute it to being liberal. Which is basically an inherently evil and hypocritical way of thinking
ND (879 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
I don't believe in destroying history and historical monuments no. I also don't believe it's appropriate to use a rebel symbol to get votes. Thats sick.
LeonWalras (865 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
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The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
brainbomb (290 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
First of all they werent destroyed. They were symbols of the confederacy that were on public land that were relocated to museums. Secondly Bill.Clinton didnt create/authorize/distribute symbols of the confederacy to procure votes. The article yoy posted stated that very explicitly.

Finally, you are sick. You sicken me. And you make me lose hope that there is any chance our society will ever be anything great. You are an impossible person to have any kind of rational dialogue with. You believe the year is 1863
brainbomb (290 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
I also get the sense based on what you said above that you want liberals to insult you so they get silenced on here. Anything you can misconstrue as an insult feeds your victim complex. You think democrats are evil people that are out of touch with Americans. Youve repeatedly described the democratic party in ways you shouldve been silenced or banned for. Unfortunately people have said angry rude things to you and have given you a free pass to continue to make bigoted remarks about the democratic party. Points-we have to keep refuting even though they are literally just insults degrading an entire group of people.

Calling feminism a cult is degrading and insulting. Calling communists and socialists murderers is hate speech against a political affiliation. You should be reprimanded.
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
01 Dec 17 UTC
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Abortionists are murderers. There are no conservative abortionists.
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
01 Dec 17 UTC
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Over fifty million babies have been aborted since Roe v. Wade. That number would be considered genocide if I were not for liberal socialist support.
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
01 Dec 17 UTC
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Over fifty million. There is no way there were that many women in danger of their lives. No way there were that many non viable humans. That it is such a large number, quickly approaching sixty million shows that liberal and socialist thought is more dangerous than any other.
ishirkmywork (1401 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
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Someone heat brad up a warm glass of milk quick he’s getting cranky
Durga (3609 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
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Omg shut up him before I start making real threats on this thread
brainbomb (290 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
Brad which do you care more about

¤unborn low socioeconomic fetuses

¤single mothers forced to raise said low socioeconomic fetuses


Hilariously either answer you give should make you want to support political positions that help low socioeconomic people
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
01 Dec 17 UTC
I suppose if you starve the poor people to death they'll stop killing babies, though, so it's a viable strategy.
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
01 Dec 17 UTC
Don't be so pompous brain. The fact that you are alive and can defend yourself and an unborn child cannot makes your arguement cold and uncaring
Hey ND, I'm a bit confused as to what was disagreeable with my post. Eden seemed to jive with the main points of it, in his own way. And I'm coming from your side of the political spectrum here.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
01 Dec 17 UTC
How do you feel about mandatory providing of birth control, Brad?
Jamiet99uk (865 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
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Well ND thanks for the condescending, superior, smarmy, fake history lesson. Sad that you really seem to have bought into this conspiracy theory. Let's just take a few minutes to rip apart what you've said:

"Yeah it’s not really something identifiable. No one goes around and says it. Cultural Marxism is a unique political ideology formed by the Frankfurt School."

If it's not identifiable, then how are you able to identify it? Don't you think it's odd that there's apparently this political ideology which has many millions of adherents (based on your statements, all socialists, and most supporters of the Democratic Party in the USA, are alleged to be cultural Marxists), yet none of them publicly subscribe to it, and none of them ever use the term except when debunking an alt-right nutjob like you?
Can you name any other mass political movements where the followers of the movement never call it by name? Is "cultural Marxism" unique in that regard?

"I know that the left believes in revisionist history and wants to rewrite history, but until people like me are completely gone there will always be people who collect primary sources and documentation from the period. You can’t eliminate true history Jamie, well not yet anyway."

Hopefully people like you will be completely gone as soon as possible. That wasn't a threat, by the way. I am not threatening to make you gone. In any case, it is absurd that you make a statement like this when you also support a political movement which does not care for facts, and whose figurehead (the Trump) regularly tells lies and shares discredited fake news - like he did in the past week when he helped to promote white nationalists Britain First by retweeting their fake news videos. In any case, keep reading, and I'll take my turn to give you a history lesson.

"Maybe when your precious government starts burning hard copies and consolidates everything online you can purge true historical records..."

Which government are you referring to? I find this part of your diatribe confusing.

"The Frankfurt School specifically studied cultural institutions associated with Western Capitalism. They looked at Art, Jazz, Film, Poetry, etc. They interjected praxis and critical theory into all of these cultural institutions associated with Western Capitalism to critique and ultimately change it to fit Marxist models. Gender Studies, Social Justice, Studies into Sexuality, etc all formed from this in the 1970s after their body of work was translated from German into English. It's absolute historical fact that this occurred."

Ahem. "Cultural Marxism" if it was used by socialists or academics in reference to the Frankfurt School, was criticism of the *lack* of revolutionary Marxism at the Frankfurt School by more orthodox Marxists.
The term "cultural Marxism" in this context was first sighted around 1973, used by Trent Schroyer, who coined the term as an accusation that some theorists were failed Marxists: not true Marxists, but merely "cultural Marxists" who had been subsumed by middle class capitalism. In this context it's basically an insult made by commies against commies who weren't commie enough. This is simply not the same as the definition used by modern conservative fearmongers like yourself.

Marx himself never wrote at any length about culture and many Marxists argue against cultural studies - as orthodox Marxists often assert that the only "real" societal division is the one of class.

The fact that modern cultural theorists use multiple lenses of class, race, gender, and sexuality to analyze culture suggests that their methods probably don't come from Marxist classifications. Instead, these lenses are more likely to have come from the 1920s-30s Chicago School of Sociology's focus on human behavior as shaped by social structures and physical environmental factors, rather than genetic and personal characteristics.

So, where does the more recent use of "cultural Marxism" as a snarl word, used to paint any progressive person as a secret communist, arise from? The answer is quite sinister. It's Nazi propaganda updated for the modern era.

You like history, so let's have a history lesson. In Germany during the Weimar republic there had been an opening up of cultural and social expression, and all that jazz. The Nazis viewed this as decadent and immoral. They invented the phrase "cultural Bolshevism" and "Jewish Bolshevism". They argued that Marxism was a Jewish conspiracy, and that powerful Jews had orchestrated the Russian revolution and were pulling the strings of the USSR. Hitler denounced any art, music, or social science thought that the Nazis disagreed with as "cultural Bolshevism". There's a whole chapter in Mein Kampf devoted to the idea that modernist art and culture was part of a Bolshevik-Jewish plot to undermine the morals of the Nordic races. This is the wellspring from which the Frog-and-Swastika movement now draws.

The modern origin of the phrase "cultural Marxism" in alt-right wingnut usage was by William Lind in 1998, part of the right-wing "Accuracy in Academia" movement. Lind argued that modern "political correctness" was in fact "cultural Marxism" designed to undermine good old American values. Here's a quote from a speech he gave in 2000:

"Political Correctness is cultural Marxism. It is Marxism translated from economic into cultural terms. It is an effort that goes back not to the 1960s and the hippies and the peace movement, but back to World War I. If we compare the basic tenets of Political Correctness with classical Marxism the parallels are very obvious... How does all of this stuff flood in here? How does it flood into our universities, and indeed into our lives today? The members of the Frankfurt School are Marxist, they are also, to a man, Jewish."

Note again the worrying undercurrent of anti-semitism that runs through all of this.

Pat Buchanan, an unhinged racist who I assume is one of your heroes, starting spouting the phrase "cultural Marxism" in about 2000.

Gradually during the 2000's, the alt-right and neo-Nazi groups increasingly started using "cultural Marxism" as a label for anything they didn't like - in the way that you have been doing. Neo-Nazi mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik used the phrase in a lot of his ramblings. Like him, a lot of the alt-Right actually appear to have convinced themselves that cultural Marxism is real, is done by Jews, and is a serious threat to their pure white ethnostate dreams.

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President Eden (2750 D)
25 Nov 17 UTC
More gunboat musings, this time about opening strategy.
I hope some of the many GB players that are better than me have opinions about this, especially if they differ from mine.

I just finished my thoughts on the Western countries, I'll discuss the Eastern ones in a follow-up.
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Smokey Gem (154 D)
05 Dec 17 UTC
Chess Computers ?
Has anyone designed a program that plays chess?
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Condescension (10 D)
06 Dec 17 UTC
Play this game
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WyattS14 (100 D(B))
06 Dec 17 UTC
New medium pot gunboat (30 bet per)
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=212175
Enjoy
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Fat backstab (25 DX)
06 Dec 17 UTC
Cheating
Science dued has a second account please report him, he is scum
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hellostu (100 D)
06 Dec 17 UTC
Starting a new game
Hello! Starting a new game with some friends, but we don't actually want to start the game till next week. But we want to all be registered and in the game. I've made the game but I don't want it to automatically start when we are all in. I've never made a game before, is that what will happen? Or can I leave the game open for a few days before I hit the "start" button?

Thanks!
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Durga (3609 D)
05 Dec 17 UTC
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FP Tournament?
Someone should run a full press tournament that I can participate in soon. Enough 1v1 crap pls
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c0dyz (100 D)
06 Dec 17 UTC
America Game
Casual fun America game, sign up here
1 day phase, full press, anon players
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Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
05 Dec 17 UTC
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Any cake artists out there?
I am the cake boss.
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c0dyz (100 D)
05 Dec 17 UTC
Liberals vs. Conservatives Game
We did this once and it was pretty fun. It'll be really fun now.

2 day phases, America map, 5v5, draw size scoring.
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brainbomb (290 D)
30 Nov 17 UTC
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Cereal
Share your favorite stories about cereal here.
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jmotest888 (0 DX)
05 Dec 17 UTC
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Email Registration Fixed
Mods please ban this.

-jmo1121109
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c0dyz (100 D)
05 Dec 17 UTC
Everybody chill
fuckin just chill out for a sec
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dargorygel (2596 DMod(G))
05 Dec 17 UTC
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New Marvel Super Hero
"The Credible Hulk!" You wouldn't like me when I'm angry because I back up my rages with verifiable facts!
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Smokey Gem (154 D)
05 Dec 17 UTC
gameID=211605 question
Hi this game was paused for investigation..
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Ogion (3882 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
Trump will die in prison.
Reports today that Mike Flynn, National security advisor, has pled guilty to lying to the FBI and will testify that Donald J Trump ordered him to work with the Russians to sabotage US elections
Discuss
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Any mods around - Live game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=212050

Please, react. :-)
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Ogion (3882 D)
04 Dec 17 UTC
Seeking substitute
Good position for a California player:

[email protected]
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FoohonPie (100 D)
02 Dec 17 UTC
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Greetings from reddit.
Hi everybody, I help mod a subreddit called /r/PBBG. It's meant for persistent browser based games like webDiplomacy.

We're showcasing webDiplomacy this week, and I wanted to reach out to you guys for anything you'd like to add.
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Maniac (189 D(B))
02 Dec 17 UTC
Advice please: Building an app
I'm considering a new business venture and a small part of that involves me either building or someone building an app for me. I've never done this before, should I go and try it myself or pay the pros to do it?
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brainbomb (290 D)
03 Dec 17 UTC
How will Trump die someday - speculation thread
Old age? Kidney failure? Jettisoned into space? Immolation? Prison? Choking on a chicken wing? Nuclear war? Suicide? Killed by melania? Killed by CIA? Killed by wolves? Place your vote here.
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Jamiet99uk (865 D)
26 Nov 17 UTC
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MAFIA XXIII ~ CALL OF THE WEST ~ SIGN UP THREAD
Please sign up here if you wish to play in Episode 33 of webDip Mafia.
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WyattS14 (100 D(B))
01 Dec 17 UTC
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Are humans fundamentally different from other animals?
A new resolution my debate team is working on, I thought It'd be interesting to see both sides of the argument according to the wonderful WebDip community.

Share your thoughts below, I'll post some articles supporting either side if this thread gets ugh.. 3 +1's
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Durga (3609 D)
23 Nov 17 UTC
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Let me change my username
For the love of god, let me change my username. This is getting more and more embarrassing as I meet more of you at f2f events. You can even ban this account and let me recreate for all I care
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reedeer1 (100 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
Euoropean Undocumented Migration
I am writing a paper comparing the illegal migration into the eu, and in to America, from the Middle East, and Mexico respectively.
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
02 Dec 17 UTC
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Cheap Profile Quotes
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damo666 (90 D)
01 Dec 17 UTC
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Bored
And pissed
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