@ "People need to stop buying into the idea that everything that isn't "normal" needs a movement and people in that group need to be treated like glass. It's everyone's duty to fit jnto society to the best of their ability. That's the social contract. I have to do it every day and so should Lila."
So you seem to think this is just Lila being doscomforted, and not recognise that suicide rates, are much higher for LGTB teens, something like 41% of Trans people attempt suicide; that is a sign that they are far worse off. That society doesn't just make them uncomfortable - it results in their death.
The fact that Lila now feels empowered to stand up and fight for her rights - instead of hiding and feeling repressed - is likely great for her mental health. It is also a huge burden to place on a teenager, and opens her up to more bullying and stress. So it is not ideal, but i think we are maling progress.
(Not to mention the murder of trans women. And the following mutilation of their bodies, which occurs at a much higher rate than the average. I hope that big name celebrities coming out as trans will help many small names around the world, even if their stories don't reflect the reality for most poor trans kids - who can't afford a quick surgery and may find it hard being accepted by their families... )
So please don't diminish their experience like that. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. And it is some of my dearest friends who have gone through or are going through similar things...
Krellin, since you mention your daugthers, what happens when they come out as trans; will you love and protect your sons just as much? And what locker room shoul they use? Just wondering.
@"first it was just gay, then bi, now trans, plus new classifications I can't even name"
It was not just gay people. White male gay men were the most privileged group, and they had the loudest voice. Bi and Trans people have been out an fighting for their rights sice Stonewall and before. Though they were once all considered Queer, and it didn't matter to the mainstream what type of queer you were because they w ere all tarred with the same brush.
Back in the 60s/70s the queer movement wanted nothing to do with the mainstream, they just wanted to be left alone. They wanted to have the right to exist without harassment. And many of them would have been happy to see the institution of marriage destroyed - so having the powerful gay white men campaign for marriage equality, fo being include in the norm, and supporting the status quo (which protects their wealth aswell) is actually a huge victory for the mainstream - a lot of older queers feel betrayed, but mainstream acceptance feels to me like a better result for LGBT people in general.
It means the gender queer, asexual and aromantics, the intersex and everyone else who doesn't fit within societal norms see those norms getting wider. And this is a good thing.
And yes, being a goth could make you feel excluded - infact i believe it is a style which inherently rejects social norms in an attempt to take power back - but you can't compare it to differences people have no choice over. Teens with aspergers (Aspies) or Autism are not the same as Jocks who feel isolated but learn social skills normally.
People who are gay, but grew up in a society which rejects difference as the work of the devil, are not going to be comfortable coming out to themselves. But to compare that with someone who has lived a privileged life and now feels a little uncomfortable with changing norms related to public toilets (or you could ise the example or breast feedin in public, there is a neutral norm which is changing and makes some people unconfortable) You simple can't think there is an equal burden here. An equal amount of discomfort which both sides need to accomodate.
The mainstream majority already have things the way the are comfortable with. They hve the power (they are the ones who defined the social norms or defaul assumptions, because whoever had power was the only group who could make these definitions) the have the privilege of living in a society which inherently accepts them.
This is what intersectional feminism is all about, recognising the different discriminations intersect and that black women and poor women and disabled women all have different experiences of discrimination which intersect. But you wouldn't ask the black woman to give up right to sit where she wanted on the bus, 'because it causes the least discomfort in society' - you are arguing that social norms (ie what people are currently comfortable with) are right for their own sake. And you are ignoring the needs of the minorities who do not fit in with these norms.
This could be sexism, or able-isn, or rascism, or homophobia, or transphobia (i don't know why those last two or described as -phobias..) but in every case it is a discriminated group fighting for their rights against the social norms which deny them those rights.
And yes, there will be more groups fighting for their specific needs, whether they be atypical neurologies (like autism or aspergers) or different chromosomes (like Downs syndrome) or disabilities, or some recognition the poverty actually leads to poor cognitive development (bad nutrition will necessarily lead to worse educational outcomes, so really the worst off in society don't even get close to an equal opportunity). The fight for equal rights will continue, and it will continue to take the form of privileged and powerful people begruding every little change, while minorities go out and march, become activists, and do everythin in their power to secure the changes of min which they need, and the rights which they deserve.
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on here and I really don't get how that happens. There must be something of which I am unaware. I'm playing with other players of roughly my own level, which of course means I win some and I lose some. I really can't see so many people being so good that they always win so much. Are they not playing people at their level?
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