Yeah I just ignore him. It seems like everyone else in this thread except you did that too.

No, I did too until someone commented on Nigee, forcing me to hit ESC to see what Nigee said which then revealed maple's off topic comments that are in violation of the mods recent "kinder, gentler forum" rules.

I see.

By the way, Steephie. Grams is a unit of mass and milliliters a unit of volume. There is no direct conversion unless you know the density of the material in question. Alcohol, being much lighter than water, would have less than one gram per milliliter where as water is one gram per milliliter and the non-alcohol parts of beer and wine and liquor may have more than one gram per milliliter. So you could never compute that exactly.

Yeah I googled the density of alcohol so I've taken that into account. I may still have made a miscalculation, but I did use its density.

But you don't know the density of the other matter in the beer, wine, or liquor. The best way to compute it is to know the percent by volume. If a beer is 8% by volume and we know 100 proof liquor is 50% by volume (not mass) then the beer needs 12.5 times the volume to get the same amount of alcohol. A shot is 1.5 ounces. that would be just under 20 ounces of beer.

I know the E of EBAC stands for Estimate so if you're trying to point out why it's an estimate okay, but in the formula, it doesn't matter since a Standard Drink is defined as a drink with 10 grams of alcohol in it.

I can't figure out what you mean with "100 proof liquor". An ounce is 200 grams, right?

Damn, 200ml. I meant to say "An ounce is 200ml, right?"

No that's not what I meant. Whut? I just woke up, I'm confusing myself really fast?

I'm guessing 200 grams though.

Why are you making your life hard by trying to measure liquids in grams?

If a beer is 355 mL and 5% alcohol by volume and a bottle of wine is 750 mL and 10% alcohol by volume then a bottle of wine would be about 4.25x the amount of alcohol.

Proof is a measure of alcohol by volume. 100 proof means 50% alcohol.

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Again, grams is a unit of mass, not volume. So an ounce of liquid (unit of *volume*) would be 200 ml. An ounce in mass would be 200 grams. It just happens to be that water is equal in mass and volume.

1 ounce of water is 28.35ml/28.35 grams. A shot glass holds about 42 ml of liquid. At 70-80 proof (the most common range) that would be 17-18 ml of alcohol. Pure alcohol is 1.25 ml per gram (or .8 grams per ml). So a full US shot glass is closer to 13-14 grams per drink. Of course, you rarely get them completely full if you order shots and less reputable bars water them down. But the easiest way to compare is to look at the ACBV (Alcohol Content By Volume) and forget about trying to convert to grams. Just deal in ml. If you have a 12 ounce bottle or can of beer (4%-8% ABV, we'll just say 6%) then you have .72 ounces of alcohol. .72 * 28.35 = 20.4 ml or 16.3 grams. When you factor in the shot not being completely full, a typical US drink is about 16-17 grams or 20-21 ml or .75 ounces of pure alcohol.

White wines average 10%
Reds are 12.5-15%

You easier cocaine in grams

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Yeah, that's fine. The exact values don't matter. I'm just trying to show him how to calculate it without a conversion table and a triple beam balance.

Also correct my first 200 set I pulled from your numbers. There is not 200 ml in an ounce. There is less than 30 ml in an ounce.

Yeah, he's not understanding the ounce as a unit of volume not mass.

an ounce is 28 grams
16 ounces to a pound

An ounce and a fluid ounce aren't the same thing.

so true

I understand, I just didn't know how much an ounce was, and I didn't know that there was such a thing as a fluid ounce.

So was there anything wrong with what I calculated before? About 60 grams of alcohol so 6 standard drinks in that formula. Sure, I could have googled how much volume of alcohol one standard drink is, but there's different measures of standard drinks so I just made sure I did what it said in the formula.

I don't think I see an issue.

You don't know the density of wine, so you will always be less accurate calculating by mass than by volume. It's also harder to calculate using mass. Don't do things that are harder and less accurate.

If you used the proper density for wine, you'd see they come out the same.

If you're using 10g as the standard tthen that's 12.7mL of alcohol. That means 149.4mL of 17 proof wine is one standard drink. That means a bottle of wine contains 5 standard drinks.

The reason you are confused is because a bottle of beer is not one standard drink. It's more like 1.5. It would have to be 3.5% alcohol yo be one standard drink, but it's usually closer to 5-8.

This is a silly thread. Steephie, imho, if you have to ask if you had too much, then it's probably too much. Trying to use density calculations with regard to liquids and alcohol percentages is silly.

I don't party, and I personally don't consume any alcoholic beverages, but my own philosophies aside, I think having an entire bottle of wine as a single person is a bad idea, if not necessarily dangerous. If you still feel tipsy the next day, then I would also think it's to much. Anyways, that's all of my thoughts on the issue.

It also depends on nationality. A 12 oz bottle of beer (355 ml) = 1.5 ounces (a US shot) of hard liquor. But that is more than the 12.7 ml of Australia and parts of Europe where 250 ml is a standard single serving of beer.

Who could have imagined a thread about beer could be so unbearably dull?