Same crap as in the 1912 election. It will be corrected in two years. Meanwhile Minnesota will turn republican in the special election for franken's seat.

Ogion have you bought your fortified compound in Mogadishu yet?

Nick Saban earned enough write-in votes in Alabama that he actually affected this race significantly. They said 10,000+ write in votes went to Saban, the Head Coach of Alabama. Lol

Brad I will bet $1000 against you on Minnesota. I am not kidding.

@Condescension,
Citizens United was actually a very easy decision. The outrage over the Citizens United decision is frankly, downright silly.

Care to elaborate?

Well, the basic problem is this.

There is no practical difference in terms of limiting the contributions that can be made directly to a campaign, which will then be used by used by the campaign in promotion and advertising and money be used in the private sphere in order to promote one candidate or another. To impose strict limits on campaign contributions in which money is given directly to the campaign in order to be used to promote the campaign, would, in practical effect, make no real difference whatsoever, because the money would then simply be used in a private capacity, by people who favor one candidate or another, rather than them giving them money to the campaign for it to use. The McCain-Feingold Act recognized this and hence it retained limitations on how much could be donated directly to a campaign, as well as imposing several more limitations in this area, while it also imposed strict restraints on the promotion of candidates in a private capacity.

Hence, when Citizens United, a 501(c)4, released the film "Hillary: The Movie" within the 90-day restriction period provided by the law, they were hit by the FEC with enforcement action. Hence, the suit on free speech grounds. This is core political speech. It is really a very easy case.

Furthermore, if we began to actually parse the bill out, there a number of other very serious problems, including for example, Privileges and Immunities concerns.

Remember, we already have anti-bribery laws and the like which deal with that side of the issue, so the frantic reaction to the decision is really, wildly overstated.

It's a shame that Roy Moore lost. He was a fairly decent candidate who is denying all of the claims. The yearbook was proven to be false, etc. Really, you shouldn't just be able to claim something and ruin someone's life. There needs to be a trial or due process or something. That aside, on the issues he was better than Doug Jones plus Jones is a liberal democrat who supports abortion. Remember, abortion equates to killing a child and he openly supports that. Killing a child is about the worst thing anyone could ever do.

i hear doug jones is going to personally kill at least 5000 babies in his first term. at least that's the plan.

https://politics.theonion.com/doug-jones-thanks-child-bride-during-victory-speech-1821235817

Clearly he wasn’t a decent candidate if he lost to a Democrat in Alabama.

"Remember, abortion equates to killing a child and he openly supports that. Killing a child is about the worst thing anyone could ever do."

You are straight out of The Onion.

ND is right about killing a child from an abortion. the science is on his side:

WHEN DO HUMAN BEINGS BEGIN?
"SCIENTIFIC" MYTHS AND SCIENTIFIC FACTS
Dianne N. Irving, M.A., Ph.D.
(copyright February 1999)
Basic human embryological facts
To begin with, scientifically something very radical occurs between the processes of gametogenesis and fertilizationthe change from a simple part of one human being (i.e., a sperm) and a simple part of another human being (i.e., an oocyteusually referred to as an "ovum" or "egg"), which simply possess "human life", to a new, genetically unique, newly existing, individual, whole living human being (a single-cell embryonic human zygote). That is, upon fertilization, parts of human beings have actually been transformed into something very different from what they were before; they have been changed into a single, whole human being. During the process of fertilization, the sperm and the oocyte cease to exist as such, and a new human being is produced.

i ate some fertilized chicken eggs for breakfast this morning, since i raise roosters and hens. excuse me, not eggs. "chicken lives," scrambled, with rye toast.

CAPT Brad I would like to give you a scenario: You go to get an ultra-sound for your wife's baby. While you are there the building you are in catches fire, you are in a burning room with a crying toddler and 1000 frozen fetuses that could all grow into babies if they are unfrozen. You can only save the one, the baby or the fetuses which do you do?

Also, you never responded to the Citizens United thing. I am not here to win arguments I just want to change your mind, so how can you support the Republicans when they do stuff like that. Plus they just repealed net neutrality, do you see how many problems there are?

and, for the record, no one has ever disputed that an embryo is alive, or even a "life." there are gradients of life though, and I really wish this particular issue didn't create brain freeze in such a large segment of the US population. We have other shit to do.

you just take the cake lama. why didn't you use the train and switch analogy. well the answer is i turn on the fire suppressing system and quench the fire.

Your avoiding the question, you would be an excellent politician :)

no you slipped me the kobayashi maru test. so i pulled a capt kirk on your ass. there are no no win situations

besides there shouldn't be any embryo banks. to create them they kill three to get one. that is a violation of the sanctity of life too. so pbfft*!

Let me give you a different scenario, you are a woman and men are trying to tell you what to do with your body, there is something inside of you which requires your energy to keep alive that you don't want or are not ready for, that my friend is why I am pro-choice. Furthermore, we haven't even brought in variables like that fact that women can sometimes be in situations where they will die if they don't have an abortion

like what do you think a human fetus is going to turn into? A spoon? Geez. It's downright murder. Pure and simple.

flawless logic.

hey lama. i am not telling anyone what to do. i am just stating a fact that abortion kills a human being.
smoking kills, people smoke.
impaired driving kills, people still drink/drug/text and drive.
poor diet and no exercise shorten lives, people still eat wrong and not exercise.

the truth is that once conceived that is a human being. people make life and death decisions everyday. but truth does exist.

@CAPT Brad:

You therefore believe that anyone caught smoking should face the same penalty as a murderer, yes?

As someone pointed out to me recently, these anti-choice slavers think that women literally should have fewer rights than corpses. You can't just take a corpse out of a dead person to save someone else's life, but apparently you CAN do that to a living worman.

Oh, but don't call them sexist or misogynists.

@ND: "It's a shame that Roy Moore lost. He was a fairly decent candidate who is denying all of the claims. The yearbook was proven to be false, etc."

Your president talks about "grabbing women by the pussy". He said those words. You stand by that man. You stand by an abusive sexist. No wonder you also jerk off over gay-hating Roy Moore.

Sick.

"CAPT Brad I would like to give you a scenario: You go to get an ultra-sound for your wife's baby. While you are there the building you are in catches fire, you are in a burning room with a crying toddler and 1000 frozen fetuses that could all grow into babies if they are unfrozen. You can only save the one, the baby or the fetuses which do you do?"

Are you Ogion's twin? I have no idea what is so bewitching about this analogy, since it's not even remotely useful for a discussion on abortion.
You save the toddler and it isn't close.
Life exists on a gradient, that doesn't mean completely avoidable termination of human life isn't tragic or shouldn't be restricted.
This trash analogy is like arguing that medics who practice triage don't actually believe in the sanctity of all of the lives put under their ward.

The overwhelming majority of aborted pregnancies were entirely avoidable with sound sex practices and even a hint of personal responsibility on the part of the people who had sex which led to pregnancy.
If we're in agreement that the fetus is a human life, then the typical pro-life position of restricting abortion to cases of rape (unavoidable pregnancy) or imminent danger to the woman's life (analogous to self-defense) is very much in line with a typical legal understanding of the circumstances in which it is okay to take a human life.