Um, how do you know what I experience on a daily basis? And, if this is going to go into some bizarre thing about privilege or whatever then save it. I don't buy into that stuff. I know exactly when it was created and by who and it's all related to marxism. I don't subscribe to anything that is related to the biggest and most destructive murderous cult in human history.

You can just answer my question instead of getting defensive.

And getting into a tangent about marxism lmao, what an insane defensive mechanism you've got there

We are all citizens DO. Everyone has the same legal recourse. Everyone has due process. Now, how the heck am I supposed to know what it is like for every single, individual, person in the country?

You can tell when ND is losing a debate when he starts calling anything he disagrees with "Marxism" or even better the completely made up thing he calls "cultural Marxism".

lol, there is nothing to lose here. The facts are on my side and cultural marxism is very real.

No. It's something you weirdos have made up. A part of the fantasy that white men are somehow victims of a liberal conspiracy.

Please refrain from making personal attacks Jamie. I am offended that you called me a 'weirdo'

ND how can you not believe that Trump is racist he. Maybe your selective memory has forgotten "grab em by the pussy". So that is the sexist bit, as for racism it seems that Trump cannot say anything about black people without also talking about the inner city. A more current example was his failure to immediatly call out the neo-nazis in Charlottesville.

LOL shut this man up. He calls someone deranged and then pretends to be offended at weirdo. You're fucking nasty ND

1) @DO: That user specifically went on a rant about me personally. I was commenting about his posting style. Please refrain from personal attacks DO.

2) @Mama: Um, those comments were talked about at length. Like I said last year, they were locker room talk like President Trump sent also he apologized for them. Now, the Charlottesville thing, yeah he condemned violence on both sides. That is condemning Neo-Nazis and the violent Antifa people.

Communism defeated Hitler at Stalingrad. Just remember that. As much as you wanna talk about the evils of communism, so many more communists died to defeat Facism than America-Great Britain and all alied powers combined. There is no comparison. So calling them a murderous cult isnt accurate. If Hitler wins in Russia, the world falls.

Communist Russia killed 800,000 Germans at Stalingrad alone.

The Communists in China, Vietnam, Soviet Union, Eastern Bloc, etc, etc, etc probably killed upwards to a billion people over the 20th and 21st centuries. Try again Brain.

I mean thats more an argument against murderous dictatorships than communism

"We are all citizens DO. Everyone has the same legal recourse. Everyone has due process. Now, how the heck am I supposed to know what it is like for every single, individual, person in the country?"

Ah this explains so much. See ND, most humans are born with the ability to empathize. To understand and feel for people who are going through struggles that you are not. Unfortunately some people are born without this and are easily mistaken as being intentional jackasses. Glad we've cleared up which you are.

ND - let's go over some straight facts here. As much as we are all guaranteed the same rights and due process in this great country, we experience different things based upon our gender and color.

For one, I have spent a long time walking through the streets of many cities. Never once was I touched inappropriately, or hit on, or anything of the sort. I get asked for directions, that's about it. My female friends have had a decidedly different experience. Uber drivers try to hit on them, they're grabbed in the subways, cat-called constantly. My black friends have been stopped and "randomly" searched and questioned by the police. Though we all share the same rights, their experiences are different than mine simply by virtue of their gender or ethnicity.

If you want to move away from personal anecdotes, you can go to studies. Black men get longer sentences than white men for conducting the same crime, on average. They are denied parole more often, again controlling for the same crime and criminal history.

Jews have had their synagogues attacked and defaced, blacks have had their churches burned, Muslims face daily social stigma and judgement for their religion. This may happen to Christians too, but it happens to them at a much lower rate than these other minorities.

So, all that demon was trying to say is - who is in a better place to speak about persecution - those who observe and witness it, like I have, or those who experience it. It's not that I can't speak my thoughts - I can and have that right, as do you. But if a man does something and says "that's not sexist" while most women say "yes it is" then it's probably sexist, regardless of his opinion and/or intent. Does that make more sense?

So, to tie it back into the previous conversation: when Trump goes on the record and says "Yes that was me in the recording" (about the "grab em by the pussy comment") and women overwhelmingly find that sexist, I don't think anyone can correctly argue that Trump isn't sexist.

And when Trump personally retweets someone who is currently in the process of being jailed for racist actions, I don't think you can honestly argue that he doesn't support racists.

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"Ah this explains so much. See ND, most humans are born with the ability to empathize. To understand and feel for people who are going through struggles that you are not. Unfortunately some people are born without this and are easily mistaken as being intentional jackasses. Glad we've cleared up which you are."

Well that's not even close to fair. 300 million people have a ton of different life experiences that inform how they see the world. I would be highly skeptical of anybody claiming to be able to empathize on a non-superficial level with people they've never met.
I'll use a personal example. About half of my coworkers are black, and I'm involved in a couple of organizations who work to help the poor in Baton Rouge, which due to a legacy of uneven, racially segregated infrastructural funding are overwhelmingly black. Having gotten the chance to talk to a lot of black citizens of Baton Rouge and learn about their individual problems and concerns, I feel that I have a decent to good understanding of the issues facing the black community in Baton Rouge.

I have no reason to think that experience would give me any realistic basis to claim that degree of expertise for the issues facing the black community in Detroit. There are certainly trends across the country that affect black people, and I might be able to understand those a bit better thanks to my exposure to those trends here in BR, but I would be an arrogant fool to claim any kind of special knowledge about the problems facing Detroit's black community just because I've interacted with people who look similar to them.

That doesn't serve as proof that I can't empathize with black people, only as proof that I know the limits of my knowledge. And I am certain that for most posters here, the difference between my admitted limitations in empathizing with a population I don't know and their failure to admit the same is not a gap of empathy but a gap of humility.

@PE, yes, and from your post here and your post history in the past I know that you aim to understand others views, and the concerns they have. I do not and have not ever gotten that impression from ND. So while I choose to express that in an over dramatized way I do still hold by the intent of the post. Which is that he does not seem interested in understanding others, views himself as above them, and does not empathize at all.

All I have to say is wow.

You could respond to Goldfinger's carefully and articulately presented points, ND, how about that?

See, you don't *have* to be stupid as a conservative. You just choose to be.

I mean, no offense, but these points are just a collection plate of propaganda. It's not really worth my time droning on about this stuff. I reject all of this social justice stuff. We are all equal. Yeah in 1960 or 1950 or 1860 I could see making and standing by a 'social justice' argument, but it doesn't apply in 2017 and all it does is divide people into camps based on sexuality/gender/race which is exactly the purpose of cultural marxism.

it's a sicko game and I see through it. It just pisses them off that half the country rejects this sick propaganda.

The simple fact you think democrats are psychos who support slavery and eugenics in my opinion is offensive. You say no offense, but truly the fact you get a platform to characterize progressives as a definition from 150 years ago, is offensive. The fact you are so out of touch you call feminism a cult is offensive. The fact you breathe the same air as we do is offensive.