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Ezio (2181 D)
09 Feb 17 UTC
How to play Russia in Gunboat
Title. I suck at Russia in gunboat. I have no clue what high level strategy I should be going for. I just always die after accomplishing virtually nothing.
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Praetorian72 (100 D)
29 Jan 17 UTC
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Geoguessr, anyone?
I was wondering if anyone else plays it. It seems like the kind of thing folks around here might like.

For those that don't know: https://geoguessr.com/
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brainbomb (290 D)
06 Feb 17 UTC
Rhyme Time II
I'm looking for a few good word magicians. Give me your nobles, your humble and fancy patricians. I need 7 players to commit to a time; to play an unranked press game whose objective is rhyme.
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Durga (3609 D)
08 Feb 17 UTC
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Bullying and harassment on the forum
I have a couple questions regarding this because I think a recent thread that was locked today brings up a lot of good questions that I think need to be asked.
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MajorMitchell (1874 D)
03 Feb 17 UTC
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Please can we agree to NOT use a certain offensive term in the Forum
Please, can we stop using the M~F term in the Forum
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Flame (125 D)
09 Feb 17 UTC
For all mapmakers & adapters
Dear Sirs! I don't know what had happened to Oli, may be he got some business and got no time to cope with DiploTestLab. So I decided to start DiploTestLab2 to make our job go on... You are Welcome!
http://lab.diplomail.ru
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WolfsBane626 (235 D)
07 Feb 17 UTC
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Lizard People Control Trump!!!!!
CNN has just reported that some people saw lizard people talking to Trump in the White House today. This confirms that we Americans are oppressed and should go riot somewhere. Maybe crash a few windows and raid while we are at it.
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Ezio (2181 D)
07 Feb 17 UTC
Muted by Valis
I've heard he mutes many people. If you have been muted by Valis, at any point, please append your name to the list!

1. Ezio
2.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
06 Feb 17 UTC
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Hitler and Trump
A nice comparison:

https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/normalization-lesson-munich-post/
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JamesYanik (548 D)
08 Feb 17 UTC
communist would be a better economic description though... it's not perfect with Germany. ND is right, as an economy they were unique
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
08 Feb 17 UTC
Well TrPrado, I think Henry Ford chose to generously support Hitler and the Nazis because he liked Hitler's politics. I think Henry Ford like many, many others was deceived by Hitler, partly because he saw what he "wanted to see" in Hitler and deliberately chose to ignore anything that might be "uncomfortable" for him. Like some British aristocrats including that daffy Edward, heir to the British throne.
We all make mistakes, Henry Ford made a clanger. It's the refusal to admit, the denial, the "airbrushed version of history", the " revisionism" that I find abhorrent. If Ford had "'fessed up afterwards, publicly apologised etc I might have some sympathy for him, but his strenuous efforts to deny etc imho, compound his mistake.
If there's a parallel between Hitler and Trump, maybe it's with the supporters of Trump.. Their willingness to be deceived, to ignore Trump's obvious faults etc
SantaClausowitz (360 D)
08 Feb 17 UTC
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Henry ford was a vicious anti Semite, in what way was he "deceived"
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
08 Feb 17 UTC
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But we're not talking about economics. ND is off his rocker trying to compare the left to Nazi fascists. It's a far right political movement.
fiedler (1293 D)
08 Feb 17 UTC
"If there's a parallel between Hitler and Trump, maybe it's with the supporters of Trump.. Their willingness to be deceived, to ignore Trump's obvious faults etc"

- something you could say about literally any supporters of any politician ever...FFS.

Sooooo why compare Trump to Hitler? This thread is living proof the comparison is 110% retarded.

The answer of course is, simple brainwashing of the feeble minded.
fiedler (1293 D)
08 Feb 17 UTC
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Henry Ford was not a smart man, he was merely a rich one.
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
08 Feb 17 UTC
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Ah for the days of the Federalists and the anti-Federalists when the insult was over honor and parentage
JamesYanik (548 D)
08 Feb 17 UTC
@Jeff Kuta

um... i wouldn't call him far right. The right in America is conservative, which is generally pro free-market and small gov't. Hitler was the opposite. IF you are saying the IDEALS of Hitler followed the same social pretenses as the right... that's another argument to make. However, that solely will not make the Nazis 'far-right'.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
08 Feb 17 UTC
James, the political spectrum is not an arrow going to the left and to the right of the center. It goes left, right, up, and down, and each political mindset falls somewhere in one of those quadrants. There is no perfect definition, but it is quite simple that Nazis fall far to the authoritarian right, which means that they fall in the top right corner of this diagram:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Political_chart.svg/220px-Political_chart.svg.png
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
08 Feb 17 UTC
Well fiddler a lot of people would disagree with you, there are some similarities, which are of concern. It clearly doesn't mean they are the same in all things. If it's uncomfortable for you, then ignore it.
ND (879 D)
08 Feb 17 UTC
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Anytime someone compares the right to Nazis I know they are intellectually lazy or simpletons
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
08 Feb 17 UTC
Sorry F, I did carefully type in your player name, but this asinine auto correcting s/w changed it
JamesYanik (548 D)
08 Feb 17 UTC
@bo

i guess you didn't see but on the last page i wrote

"This is where 'right' and 'left' fail.

there is collectivism vs free markets, and there is anarchists vs fascists.

the nazis were collectivist fascists.

democrats are more collectivists than republicans, though both sides' tendencies towards big gov't."


i know it's not JUST left and right, and i was saying that by America's standards of "left and right" the Nazis would be more to our left.
They called each other traitors and foreign agents in times of federalists and anti federalists
fiedler (1293 D)
08 Feb 17 UTC
Yeah, its uncomfortable for me when someone who might do some good and stop the rot and collapse of western society is smeared as 'Hitler' with little to no justification. I'm kinda strange that way. FO.
JamesYanik (548 D)
08 Feb 17 UTC
Also @bo

this is what political compass says where Hitler was

https://www.politicalcompass.org/images/axeswithnames.gif

not FAR to neo-liberalism. Funnily enough, I still can't find the free-market argument with Hitler. He nationalized SO much, i'm not sure what they're basing that off of.

it's probably his social standings, but those shift so much, i prefer to look at political/economic.
ND (879 D)
08 Feb 17 UTC
Hitler went after the political right in Germany as well.
SantaClausowitz (360 D)
08 Feb 17 UTC
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Hitler was put into power by the political right
ND (879 D)
08 Feb 17 UTC
Eh, partially but he went after them as well. Name one right wing party that Hitler let stay in power after the enabling act.
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
08 Feb 17 UTC
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I'm sure everyone in this thread is going to point out that the names political parties and theories are attributed to change over time and between continents.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
08 Feb 17 UTC
@James ... I find it fallacious to assume that the right side of the political spectrum is economically laissez-faire. There is a swathe of so-called conservatives that can't keep their hands off of the economy right now and for many years. As much as militancy and equity mean to the right side of the spectrum, there is no argument at all suggesting that they want to play the game of small government. Likewise, there is hardly an argument saying that they don't want control over the economy. They don't wish to nationalize it, only to delegate that control elsewhere - rarely, though, to the people. I don't know of a government that actually practices a hands-off approach economically other than industrial giants for a very, very brief period of time (brief because it didn't go so great).

Yes, though, Hitler nationalized, no doubt about that. That is a leftist ideal. He also held that if you aren't doing good for the state (and we all know what that truly meant to him), then the state murders you - that is economic authoritarianism, among other far worse things. However, the left is supposed to value equality, wherein those that cannot help themselves receive the help that they need, and Hitler was not at all in favor of that. The moderate-to-somewhat-far left is also supposed to value a free society according to conventional standards (not that the right isn't, but they do so differently), which Hitler also didn't do, obviously. He was nativist and xenophobic - two things that the left typically does not support. The NSDAP had a racial hierarchy, a political hierarchy, a socioeconomic hierarchy, a religious hierarchy, and a general caste system, which is a tenet of the far-right. That is not unrelated to the economy, as much as simpleminded economists like to believe. And, lastly, Hitler was blatantly militaristic. Like, he was the most militaristic ever. That is the crown jewel of the right.

Besides this, pretty much every German political party of the mid-20th century was, by your standard, leftist economically. There were welfare systems, infrastructure developments, a very low unemployment rate, etc etc. These were German things, not NSDAP things. The way that the Nazis messed things up so much was, oh, I don't know, imprisoning countless millions of people for slaughter and attempting to take over the goddamn world.

As an aside, the Nazis defined themselves as far-right, possibly to separate themselves from the communists to their east, and as much as they did not believe in self-determination, I do, so if they want to be far-right, by gods, I'll give them a chance to be far-right. Anything that keeps them far, far away from me.

tl;dr - laissez-faire doesn't exist, all German political parties in the 20th century, NSDAP included, were leftist by today's standards economically, Hitler's mustache from the statue in Berlin is kept in Moscow, which is to the far right of Germany. Ergo, far right.
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
08 Feb 17 UTC
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We should have elected an old Whig general. Where is Zachary Taylor when you need him?
JamesYanik (548 D)
08 Feb 17 UTC
@bo

To your first point, many Republicans aren't conservative. they may say they're conservative, but if they try to create massive infrastructure plans or the like: that isn't conservative. If the definition of conservative has shifted to "conservative sometimes except when we like big gov't spending yeah fuck it let's get some money"

then i'm fucking off the scale to the right.

yes in terms of xenophobia, clear and blatant racism, these are things the left champion against... and by European standards he is far right. Of course the right in europe= populism + nationalized gov't

when comparing that to America, you're combining American Left and American Right ideals.

now you can say it's "far right" and ND can say it's "far left" but in today's terms it's really neither.

I will concede that back then he was "far right" ... in fact i never really argued against that point. I'm just trying to see where Hitler would line up in today's politics:

Nationalism, aggressive foreign policy with strict laws against immigrants, huge infrastructure plan, big gov't

he's VERY much like Trump in those ways. I kind of like the comparison to Trump in terms of end-results (though the current political environment is quite different... but put that aside for another thread)

But I don't refer to Trump as a conservative. Many Republicans have said that they don't like Trump because he's too liberal!!!
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
08 Feb 17 UTC
Rabbi! Is there a prayer for the Czar? A prayer for the Czar? Of course. May God bless and keep the Czar.....far away from us!
JamesYanik (548 D)
08 Feb 17 UTC
@valis

well, you're not wrong! i'm just judging him by today's standards, as thinking in context of 1945 creates an entirely warped world view, which is problematic when we try to place him back into our own political spectrum.
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
08 Feb 17 UTC
Franklin Pierce was elected to be a reformer. But a family tragedy took the enthusiasm for the office away and he just muddled through his term.
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
08 Feb 17 UTC
Here is something. What is the same and what is the difference of the following: microwaves, gamma rays, ultraviolet, infrared, x-rays and visual light?
TrPrado (461 D)
08 Feb 17 UTC
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Ah, I see the thread has now peaked.
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
08 Feb 17 UTC
Oh hey Valis!
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
08 Feb 17 UTC
Now but the thread was pierced, Frankin Pierce(d).

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Yoyoyozo (65 D)
08 Feb 17 UTC
Completely Anon Game.
Hey, a player wanted me to advertise a completely anon game. Here is the link: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=191149

I'm not playing obviously because it's completely anon. If you join, please do NOT post here or anywhere that you've joined. I'll periodically bump this thread until it fills.
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michaelf77 (405 D)
07 Feb 17 UTC
Rule explanation request
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=191190
Spring, 1912
Why was Berlin dislodged?
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LachStyle (240 D)
05 Feb 17 UTC
This Game is Broken
There is too much bias, with the 1v1s
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brainbomb (290 D)
04 Feb 17 UTC
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Abortion under attack
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/11/29/us/30abortion-clinic-violence.html?
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tvrocks (388 D)
03 Feb 17 UTC
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Feature request: expand mod powers
I've noticed that a lot of people have been having issues with mod's decisions lately and I think the forum would be a better place if the mods/ admins had the powers to do more than just ban a user and if they were allowed to, for example, also kill the user's family. Implementing a "-1 and ban" feature underneath the +1 feature may also be funny to watch. Thank you and I hope you take my ideas into consideration.
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
07 Feb 17 UTC
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Donaeld The Unready
My friend set up this Twitter account which some of you may find funny:

https://twitter.com/donaeldunready
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chairman meow (280 D)
06 Feb 17 UTC
Please can we agree to NOT use a certain offensive term in the Forum
Please, can we stop using the st*pid term in the Forum
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Durga (3609 D)
23 Jan 17 UTC
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MAFIA XXVII - SIGN UP THREAD
Sign up here
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civwarbuff (305 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
New England vs. Atlanta: Superbowl LI
Superbowl LI discussion and predictions thread.
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Poohbelly (456 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
How to unsubscribe to mail once defeated?
I'm getting spam from a game I took over and am now defeated. How do I stop all the mail?
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ND (879 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
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Free Speech Attacked
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-trump-supporters-attacked-outside-berkeley-milo-speech/
This is another example of how the militant, authoritarian, left is trying to stop and limit free speech.
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Clownie (295 D)
05 Feb 17 UTC
Can I advertise anonymous games?
If I host an anonymous game, can I advertise it on the forum? It's not technically against the rules, but some might find it undesirable to know anything about who's in the game.
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stupidfighter (253 D)
04 Feb 17 UTC
Breaking News- I love you
Over a year after getting this computer and webdip isn't in my internet history. Wow.

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taos (281 D)
04 Feb 17 UTC
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restart vote
why not to make a restart vote ,just like draw or pause in some games it is needed instead of cancel and make a new one.
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ishirkmywork (1401 D)
30 Jan 17 UTC
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Ideas for resistance
what should we be doing as Americans and world citizens to combat creeping fascism?
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brainbomb (290 D)
04 Feb 17 UTC
Seattle Webdippers
I have booked my vacation for Seattle Mar 9th - 13th! Anyone interested in gathering to play games/coffee and meet webdips wackiest member PM me. Also its my 33rd birthday
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Egathetos (207 D)
04 Feb 17 UTC
Question on 1-to-1
There is a lot if literature around the standard map played by 7 players. Where can I find simikar sources of information for 1v1 games?
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brainbomb (290 D)
30 Jan 17 UTC
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Brownies vs. Cookies vs. Donuts vs. Cake vs. Pie
There can be only one winner.
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Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
01 Feb 17 UTC
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Trump and Bannon's "Shock Event"
A bit of political science for y'all.
http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2017/01/31/americans-can-turn-tables-steve-bannons-shock-event
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dargorygel (2596 DMod(G))
04 Feb 17 UTC
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Advertise Dead Games Here
I've wanted to start a thread with this title for many months. I always forget. Now I didn't.
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cspieker (18223 D)
03 Feb 17 UTC
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Feature request: time clock location
It would be really nice to have the countdown clock right above the order menu. That way one wouldn't have to scroll up to see how many precious seconds are left (wasting precious seconds). Would be pretty useful toward the end of the 5-minute 1v1's in which there are a lot of orders to fill.
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