Uhh....NO, they're not. Everytime they run something, whether it is garbage pickup, a hospital systems or any other adventure, they perform at lower quality and higher costs.

The government has proven to be an utter *failure* at competing with the private sector.

Hence...the compelte and utter failure of Communist Russia. China has given up communism in favor of capitalism - because government run doesn't work.

Sad, pathetic little Putin. Problem with him is that he is the result of public education....proof positive of what a failure government-run is. Putin demonstrates a complete ignorance of truth and facts -- the perfect example of "government run" education system.

Keep spinnig on your thumb, Putin - I'm sure it amuses you, but the only one believing your lies is you....except, not even you believe your own lies, I suspect. You only spew them to try to make others feel bad in a pathetic attempt to try to make yourself feel better.

It won't work. You'd be happier to - just once - try truth. But...I suspect it is more of a mental disorder that drives you at this point. Seek help...preferably from a for-profit private doctor if possible....since any government doctor will never actually seek to solve your problem in an attempt to keep you coming back endlessly to justify his existence...

I do look around the world, and a lot of the innovation does come from the USA. As such, why *should* the government deny companies the opportunity to bring ideas into the actual world? Taking a discovery and turning it into a real thing in the world does not take care of itself; I'm not sure why you're characterizing that as "theft."

And if you're convinced that this American innovation is worthless, then you should not be complaining about the "theft" at all, as it would have no value.

Tendmote it's really difficult to have a conversation and stay on topic. Before you were talking about operations, now it's back to innovation. Let me know what you actually want to discuss.

Putti is irrelevant.

Hehe

Articulate as ever.

Still the same piece of shit i see, hehe

Operations are crucial to innovation. They're not separate topics. A discovery and it's application in the real world are the innovation.

@Putin,
I am not sure why you feel that the moderators should not be taken seriously. If they ask you to do something, please do it. If you think they stepped out of line, then please email us at [email protected] and ask an admin to review a moderator's action. Thank you for understanding and following site rules.

@ssorenn and krellin,
Please tone down your rhetoric as well. There is no need to attack a person's worth based on their opinion. If there is a flaw in their reasoning, point it out but there is no need to use ad hominems, calling them worthless human beings or a fuckstain. Thanks.

@Zultar - the flaw in his reasoning is most likely based upon his personal ideology, sense of self-worth, etc. I think it is actually a very valid point, and the boy need legitimate psychological help. that's my honest opinion - it's not an attack.

That being said, since the majority of Putin comments are attacks on anyone that works for a living I would appreciate it greatly if YET AGAIN the Mods did not turn a blind eye to Putin's continuous attacks on everyone and everything. YOu let him get away with instigating shit all the time, and then bash others when they reply in kind. Come on, Zultar...it's one thing to not like me, but you are being a hypocrite here.

I am unclear on how I or the mods are being hypocritical. Two mods asked Putin to tone it down and I asked him to do what a moderator asked him to do. Moreover, we have also contacted Putin before when we thought it was necessary, so please don't presume what we have or have not done. If he is civil in his discourse and he can disagree in his discourse, then that's fine. If he starts to make ad hominem attacks, then we'll ask him to tone it down.

@zultar, this guy comes in and derails the thread, and starts the insinuations. If he starts, I shall follow. If you would like me to refrain for calling him a fuckstain, well I'll just have to find another adjective. Fine. Just for you.

Actually I think it was Lando who started in with the insults:

“Fuck it's frustrating when retards think they understand things. You people are waste cases.”

After that Putin33 went to "lazy filthy rich scum who live off of dividends" and then ssorenn went weird.

Anyway it's futile to have any consistent anti-ad-hominem policy (he started it! no he did!), it'll never work. But it should be dialed back when it gets weird (ssorenn).

Just my 2 cents.

Also, I am not lazy!

ssorreenn, you were the one who started with the angry personal attacks on Putin in this thread, not the other way around.

Arguing who started this whole thing is only going to start a new thing. There has been a pretty large number of insults thrown around by various people in this thread. It's easy enough to argue a point without them.

@bo_sox48

"Arguing who started this whole thing is only going to start a new thing. "

I agree. You should have just pointed out that "fuckstain" was too much, then silenced ssorenn when he kept going.

I don't think bo has forum moderating powers, tendmote.

Jamie go fuck yourself and mind your own business

"I don't think bo has forum moderating powers, tendmote."

Ah, that might be part of the issue then. Someone with those powers should have been the one asking for the thread to be toned down.

And @tendmote, you can't even get it right be reading back. Moron

Anything you say in a public forum is the business of all the other participants, ssoorreenn.

Go die in a fire.

You first, pussy suck up....go suck a dick, again

Dear God, I hope bo never gets forum moderation power. "Fuckstain" isn't something even worth a warning. Let's take a moment to remember that no one is forcing us to read the words on the screen and that even if something is written down it's not necessarily true.

That's not true. Jamiet has actually a squad of 9 year old girls trained to shoot anyone with a submachine gun if they don't read every post on this site.

@tendmote ... officially, I'm not a forum mod, and I don't really want to be. I don't envy that job. I can't silence players or lock threads or do any other forum wibbly wobbly stuff (wow I'm going British). I only work the games. I guess pangloss is happy about that, but he's really breaking character; Pangloss is supposed to think that all things are for the best.

I've been less and less optimistic since being hanged during the Inquisition.

"If he is civil in his discourse and he can disagree in his discourse, then that's fine. If he starts to make ad hominem attacks, then we'll ask him to tone it down. "

@Zultar - again, I guess I question your random application of the works "civil in his discourse". So coming in and saying everyone that makes a profit, anyone that works for a coroporation, etc is stealing from othes, etc etc etc...while not a "direct" ad hominem attack is certainly not civil, productive discourse, and you and I both know he is directing those attacks at each of us in his phrasing. And yet if we reply, you get all defensive. Give me a break, Zultar...You want to pretend that you want some happy, productive conversations, and yet you let Putin *constantly* get away with anger-filled, provocative bullshit that is *purely* intended to insult everyone that doesn't walk in lock-step with communism. He doesn't seek productive conversation - he bashes and abuses everyone he disagrees with, and you let it happen. The fact that Putin is so often the central focus on these sorts of discussion is the proof in the pudding. Get real, man.

Is Putin actually a communist? I would expect a little more of that Marxist flair (and analytic rigour) from him were that true.