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Durga (3609 D)
27 Jan 17 UTC
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Daily Trump News Thread
Instead of having 17 threads each time he does something new, let's have this one so anyone that doesn't want to deal with Trump can just mute it! (ps is it possible to self mute?)
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ND (879 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
George Washington
Should statues of George Washington be taken down? This is being debated in Chicago.
https://youtu.be/1t96yjrZRrk
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Ogion (3882 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
Is everyone scared
To even bring up the neo Nazi terrorist attack in Charlottesville today, and the fact that the President made the weakest denunciation of terrorism ever, )except perhaps for his non response to the attacks in Quebec and Minnesota)
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leon1122 (190 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
Condescension, if I'm driving and I hit a jaywalker, it should absolutely be the jaywalker's fault.

Condescension: political violence is good, but hitting political opponents who are acting illegally is bad.
Condescension (10 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
The USA was literally *founded* through political violence.
TrPrado (461 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
I just watched the video. There was clearly room in the street to pass. Cats WERE passing. The dude sped up.
Condescension (10 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
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@Leon If you're driving and you purposefully hit a jaywalker, you'll go to prison. You are a lunatic. Murdering people for standing in a road is terrorism.
TrPrado (461 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
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The road WAS NOT BEING BLOCKED. OBJECTIVELY.
Condescension (10 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
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@TrPrado why does that matter? Who gives a fuck if the road is blocked?

Leon belongs in a mental institution for saying this shit.
leon1122 (190 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
Oh? Why is that? I though you said violence is a good thing.
Condescension (10 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
...

I said that a blanket opposition to all violence is stupid. I'm not saying that all violence is good. Classic right-winger, can't argue in good faith.

If you are seriously saying that you would drive a car into a crowd unlawfully standing in a road, you deserve to die.
leon1122 (190 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
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You're breaking rule 2 of the forum rules, but I'm sure the mods don't care since you're a leftist.

You said that political violence is good, and you say that this is political violence. See your hypocrisy?
Condescension (10 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
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Oh, no, they care. I'll be forum banned.

I did not say that all political violence is good. You're a moron.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Aug 17 UTC
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As most of you know, it is against the rules to encourage others to commit suicide or threaten them in any manner. If you wish to continue participating in this thread or on the forum, please remain civil and follow the rules.

leon1122 and Condescension, you have both been silenced. Check your registered emails for your official notice.

- webDiplomacy Admin
peterwiggin (15158 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
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Let's not mince words here. White supremacy goes beyond "political violence." It is evil: America's founding evil and original sin.

Unfortunately, white supremacy benefits all white people, including the ones with no torches. That’s why it survives.
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
Thanks Bo Sox. Surely the most salient lesson from this tragedy that EVERYONE should understand is that moderation is required, self discipline is essential, so can we ALL try to find ways to have a civilised discussion, even when we passionately disagree.
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
I do not know enough about this tragedy to feel comfortable making any comments beyond this observation. The civil authorities must have known there was a real risk of violent confrontations associated with this event. The use of motor vee~hickles as "weapons" against crowds is also well known. So I am wondering if the Civil authorities were negligent in not blocking off the surrounding area to all traffic, and not having more Police, Security, or the State National Guard present.
Oztra (30 DX)
13 Aug 17 UTC
Bo's first act, to ban leon
heheh
good initiation again
but yeah
stoopid people doing stoopid things
oh well
I called that the

"Botox Ejection"
SantaClausowitz (360 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
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Watching leon bend over backwards to defend a neo-nazi's right to kill a 32 year old woman is fascinating, though not surprising. Real classy dipshit.
brainbomb (290 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
Gross
brainbomb (290 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
I have to disagree with PW.

"Unfortunately, white supremacy benefits all white people, including the ones with no torches. That’s why it survives."

SantaClausowitz (360 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
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Normal, decent people: "OMG a neo nazi just ran down a defenseless woman in the street."

Leon: "...But she was Jay-walking"

This is the scum that considers themselves the voice of the right.
brainbomb (290 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
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Thats like saying gang violence helps all black people. Of course it doesnt. Violence and bigotry are brand destroyers. Its also bad for America as a people. Other countries see kkk and Aryan brotherhood and think theyre like ISIS. They wonder how anyone feels safe visiting a place like Mississippi.

When the banjos start playing im gettin the fuck out. White ppl are creepy as fuck, they hate liberals just as much as other ethnicities. So how does that benefit white ppl at all

MajorMitchell (1874 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
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Dipbro Brainbomb, you cannot just lump all "white people" together and assume they all have the same values and political beliefs.. That's just nuts.
brainbomb (290 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
I dont feel white supremecist movements help white people at all. I dont think they help anything whatsoever. The status quo is nudged along by redundant behaviors and radical hate groups are an element of disorder/chaos and the very antithesis of status quo.

Things like wage inequality for example are neither perpetuated nor aided by white supremecy. If anything wage and gender inequality are further stained by hate groups fighting for those policies.
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
As to Leon's "jaywalking" nonsense. Excluding the politics and this particular tragedy, but looking at jaywalking and a driver's responsibilities as a hypothetical. ( and I understand that different jurisdictions can have different traffic laws )
In my country drivers have the responsibility of "driving to the conditions" So even though the speed limit in a suburban area is 50km/hr, in suburban areas there is always the risk that children can run out onto the street chasing a football or each other, and appear without warning from behind shrubs, parked cars etc..it's a driver's responsibility to have taken that risk into consideration when driving along suburban streets, and to have "adjusted their driving" in consideration of that, and other risks.
Some people think that just because they are driving they have all these various "rights" and few, if any responsibilities.
Leon seems to think that if he's driving, he has an axiomatic "right to run down any jaywalkers who step into the path of his motor vee~hickle". I disagree.
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
I think a driver has the responsibility to avoid running over pedestrians, cyclists, even if they're "doing the wrong thing". One traffic law in my country is that a driver should not try to avoid running over an animal if in doing that there is a risk of causing a collision with another vehicle or pedestrian. So before a driver " swerves to avoid a dog, cat, Skippy the kangaroo etc", they have to first be certain that in doing so they do not risk a collision with another vehicle or pedestrian.
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
So if a driver enters an area where there are crowds of people blocking the streets, then it's on them to show some common sense, find an alternative route, or pull over, park and wait for the crowd to disperse. Only an idiot starts blowing his car horn, revving the motor, abusing people and exacerbates the situation.
brainbomb (290 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
Actually jaywalking being illegal in no way excludes a driver from responsibility. Using a car to punish a jaywalker is motor vehicle homicide. Lol
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
As to white supremacists, you have to ask..what drives this behaviour ? Answer..A need to compensate for self perceived inadequacies. They're the human equivalent of a strutting, puffed up bantam cock.. Desperate to establish some ephemeral superiority. People with a genuine self belief in their own competencies don't need to be constantly demonstrating superiority. They can allow themselves to defer to others, treat others as equals.
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
That's right Dipbro Brainbomb. A motorist is not a self appointed enforcer of the law. They only have the "right to make a complaint to the proper authorities" about the perceived unlawful behaviour of others.
Ogion (3882 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
@james

Now I remember why I had you blocked

These are white supremacists because hey run around talking about how whites are better than everyone else. The guys shooting cops didn't do it out of some therapy that blacks are superior but out of anger at actual mistreatment by police.

If you can't see that those are entirely different, then you've got problems. Furthermore your willingness to cover for the neo Nazis or pretend that fighting against police brutality is somehow equivalent to glorifying the Holocaust is rather telling

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orathaic (1009 D(B))
17 Aug 17 UTC
Anarchists in the US
"if we possess any sort of freedom today in this society, it is the result of all the times people defied and overthrew governments, not because of the times they were obedient. If not for disobedience, we would still be living under the rule of kings."

from this: https://itsgoingdown.org/statues-fall-uproot-pedestals-promise-direct-action/
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
17 Aug 17 UTC
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Completely unrelated to nazis thread.
*sigh*
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
16 Aug 17 UTC
Alt-left?
Interesting article describing the use of this term:
https://newrepublic.com/article/144361/liberals-helped-create-trumps-new-bogeyman-alt-left
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groza528 (518 D)
17 Aug 17 UTC
Dislodgement question
I'm normally pretty good with rules questions myself but this one has me going back and forth.
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Durga (3609 D)
16 Aug 17 UTC
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On punching nazis
I've decided to appease the centrists. Instead of punching nazis, we'll murder them by drone with no due process.
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Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
17 Aug 17 UTC
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Is it ever ok to paunch Nazis?
Especially Nazi cats?
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MyxIsMe (511 D)
17 Aug 17 UTC
Diplomacy Question
Not clear on how this works out in the game mechanics:

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Monfils (0 DX)
17 Aug 17 UTC
Diplomacy memes!
Give me some because I'm waiting on my games and I'm bored and I want webdiplo in a potent form
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JamesYanik (548 D)
16 Aug 17 UTC
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My Cat is a Nazi
https://puu.sh/xbB8I/c82481f2e9.png

please do not punch my cat
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trip (696 D(B))
16 Aug 17 UTC
Need a sub
gameID=201565

Please let me know if you're willing and I'll send you password. Thx.
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Jamiet99uk (865 D)
16 Aug 17 UTC
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It's okay to punch Nazis
I purport that it is perfectly ok to beat up the following types of people:

- Nazis - Neo-Nazis - KKK members - David Duke - White Supremacists -
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
12 Aug 17 UTC
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IRL work Horror Stories
No matter the field of profession, we all have work horror stories. The days when everything fell through the cracks or the work load was just too much. Tell about it. Only rule is try to avoid names and such.
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
16 Aug 17 UTC
Feature Idea: Badges
See Inside
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Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
16 Aug 17 UTC
Gen Con
Anyone going to Gen Con this weekend? I'm going for the first time just for the day Saturday - anyone with tips on what to see let me know.
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michael_b (192 D)
12 Aug 17 UTC
Feature Idea: Friend 'List'
I'm not one to cause pressure for the coding team who are focused on the new Forum, but has this feature been suggested before? See Reply.
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Mapu (362 D)
15 Aug 17 UTC
Five Year Anniversary Game
Happy Webdip Anniversary to me. Anyone good want to play a game? Classic Semi-Anon WTA.
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kestasjk (95 DMod(P))
04 Aug 17 UTC
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Trialing the upcoming new forum system
The new forum system is up and running, and we're ready to let users onto it to test it as we transition to it from this forum.

Probably best if you respond there rather than here, but I guess it doesn't matter:
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Maltir (125 D)
14 Aug 17 UTC
Can I do this?
Here's my map: http://webdiplomacy.net/map.php?gameID=204508&turn=-1&mapType=large
Question is, Can I move my fleet at Ankara to the Aegean Sea or the Eastern Med Sea without using the Black Sea?
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Fluminator (1500 D)
12 Aug 17 UTC
First person to shitpost loses
GO
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Monfils (0 DX)
14 Aug 17 UTC
Any help with this Gunboat that I would really like to pick up traction.
I will follow you around the forum and support your comments for a week
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
13 Aug 17 UTC
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Nazi march in America?
Someone with the Twitter handle @JuliusGoat just dropped one of the best Twitter threads in history, about the white supremacist/Nazi march in Charlottesville.

https://twitter.com/juliusgoat/status/896326301832925184
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ttf236 (0 DX)
14 Aug 17 UTC
Replies Last postsort ascending Forum
http://www.thefreelancemarketer.com/
http://www.theheatingplace.com/
http://www.themoccaroom.com/
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Maltir (125 D)
12 Aug 17 UTC
Why couldn't I move?
Hey I was playing Italy in this game. I tried to have my fleet convoy my army in Tuscany to Smyrna. Neither were being attacked or blocked, but I was unable to make this move. Why? Here's the link to the map: http://webdiplomacy.net/map.php?gameID=203295&turn=9&mapType=large
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Fluminator (1500 D)
09 Aug 17 UTC
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Unpopular opinion thread
I saw this posted on another forum and it ended up being a great thread.

Post an unpopular opinion you have, and only comment if you (dis)agree under others - no arguing.
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MajorMitchell (1874 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
Trump visits West Virginia and promises to "fix" the drug problems there.
Can Trump deliver on this promise ?
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Arch-Duke (100 D)
03 Aug 17 UTC
WWI year-by-year re-enactment game
Would anyone be interested in this? To be clear, I mean instead of playing, we figure out a blow-by-blow of WWI and then re-enact it phase by phase.
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peterwiggin (15158 D)
12 Aug 17 UTC
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Mod team personnel changes
bo_sox48 is now an administrator. Please join me in thanking him for his past and future service to the site.

Sadly, ghug is leaving the moderator team. Please join me in thanking him for the work he's done as a moderator.
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