To be fair, standing arguments seem to invariably cut against people trying to assert a public interest. In the eyes of Scalia, anything is legal as long as you hurt enough people diffusely enough. It's a very problematic set of doctrines.

That's as may be. There's a tension between standing and the initiative process. But Prop 8 got a day in district court and then a day in appeals court, where it was struck down on the merits both times. Then SCOTUS refused to hear the case on standing...at the exact same time as it was ruling on US v. Windsor, where it struck down the same definition of marriage at the federal level on the merits. If Brad thinks state officials did a disservice to the state by not defending an unconstitutional statute strenuously enough, he's fooling himself.

Yes, he is. The fact is also that needs mention is that Prop 8 failed to clear a rational basis standard, which is an extremely low bar. If you law can't pass that, without even addressing whether LGBT people deserve any kind of protection under the Equal Protection clause, your proposition is in a boatload of trouble. Judge Walker built a solid record at trial and gave a bullet proof judgment. Frankly, defending it was a waste of time.
(In full disclosure, I wrote an amicus brief to the Ninth Circuit on that case, albeit on issues that were not those that ultimately determined that particular case)

Gotta add to the list:
8. J.D. Gordon
9. Jared Kushner

Apparently they both met this guy, the Russian "Ambassador":

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/02/world/sergey-kislyak-russian-ambassador-us-profile/

And Donald Trump Jr was apparently paid $50,000 by a Russian linked group in France. Seems a little tenuous that one though

Oh, but it gets better.

Apparently, the watering down of the Ukraine language in the GOP platform at the GOP convention WAS done at Trump's behest, which Trump lied about. And it was done at a meeting presided over by Jeff Sessions at the same convention at which Sessions met with the Russian ambassador. A week later, Wikileaks leaks its hack of the Clinton campaign and the DNC.

Oh, but there's not an coordination or quid pro quo here. Riiiight.

impeach the bastards already.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/3/3/1639775/-Campaign-advisor-changes-story-and-now-contradicts-Trump-says-Donald-ordered-Ukraine-change-at-RNC

We all are watching a variation of the Manchurian Candidate, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manchurian_Candidate_(2004_film), unfold before us. And like the fictional Manchurian Candidate, Trump doesn't even know he's being manipulated.

Ogion do you have a job? you are on here all the time. at least i am retired and have no job. aren't you supposed to be out 'saving the world'? or is this the break you take after shaving your skinhead?

Oh hohoco, now Brad, you know they don't like questions like that. What a typically WHITE MALE thing to ask a question like that!

@"CAPT Brad
Ogion do you have a job? you are on here all the time. at least i am retired and have no job. aren't you supposed to be out 'saving the world'? or is this the break you take after shaving your skinhead?"

Does the question of his job change the content of his posts? Just wondering cause you seem to have brought it up...

But seriously, delusionalso think impeachment is going to magically happen if they screech enough. Spoiled brats.

In reality this will Segway nicely to revelations of Obama /Clinton real scandals.

Can't wait X^)

@Ora
Laffable and indefensible, and you know it. Kek

Of course i find myself agreeing with fiedler on this. Ok maybe not the last part on Obama Scandals (he left power, and isn't a threat to anyone, so not worth the political cost of going after.. ) but impeachment will not be soon coming.

Trump may get rid of a few more people, those who prove 'disloyal', who are stabbed in the back by other appointees, who fail to win the game that seems to be going on inside the administration.

@fiedler, why? Maybe Ogion inherited his wealth and spends his time spreading the ideas he likes.

If you believe in inheritance (and not that the state shoyld confiscate the property/wealth of people when they die) then i can't see why you would have an objection.

You can still object to the content of his message.

I'm glad we agree my Irish friend.

I'll be in UK June. Are you inviting me to stay? It could be a beautiful thing.

@ fiedler typically WHITE MALE thing

apparently you didn't see my other post:

@ Ogion
sanctions and military strikes might be the only remaining rational answer
Ogion proposes treason.

I blame our terrible education system after four decades of Republican gutting

California has had virtual democrat control of the legislature since the 1950's
so who is to blame here? Oh i know, unfettered undocumented immigration since the 1970's of people with no english skills (often no spanish either) in non-english speaking homes. who's parents take out the girls by high school and who's attitude towards education is to knock down any achievers. I lived that discrimination myself as did my father.

Ogion speaks from a position of WHITE PRIVILEGE whereas myself and my father have faced discrimination of Spanish speakers. my father refused to have me learn Spanish growing up so i would have a better chance in a white world where i could 'pass'.

Ogion's only solution is to either blame someone else or throw money at the system while he preaches 'tolerance' as he enables the breakdown of traditional moral values.

Chill brahman, I always got your back B-rad.

I was just being a dick as is my way.

I wouldn't worry about Onion.

Ha, ha, ha! i prefer to call him 'Og the skinhead'. it has a more sinister ring to it.

Fiedler, 1) ireland is not in the UK, but in case that isn't an issue 2) my house will probably be sold by June (and i'm not inheriting it for another generation) so 3) if you want a couch i will probably be able to fit you... If i have a place to live...

Og is a sad case. And there is many such of them.

Earlier i think you brought up traditional moral values and Onion LITERALLY laughed in your face (on the internet). This is the real problem. And LA Lakers land is the world center of it.

Ora....are you saying you don't want to share your bed? I thought you were a proper communitista.... ah well then. Think I'll have a lil drink.

You can use the bed while i'm not in it, proper efficiency... But still assumes i have a bed.

Irregardless, i will go for a pint with you.

Also i think i'm leaning more toward anarchist than communist these days... Or anarcho-syndicalist.

Anarcho-syndicalist .

Gah. That's triggering.

Actually, it takes very little time commenting. I take breaks between writing and reading, etc.

Much as I don't like him, Trump isn't getting impeached. All the "treason" is Logan Act stuff that has never been pushed, and has serious 1st Amendment problems if it ever is pushed. Maybe Trump will do something impeachable at some point, but I haven't seen it yet. He's done despicable stuff, IMHO, but not impeachable. Just as I'm sure many conservatives wanted to impeach Obama for things he did that they detested, but there were no impeachable acts.

Emoluments clause. He switches his position on the VERY important one China policy and then a few days later he just happens to win a very rare trademark decision in his favor from a Chinese court. He gets elected and seemingly gets a $19.1 billion stake in Rosneft at a sweetheart price. Not to mention the shenangans in Argentina and Turkey.

Unless the Republicans hold the house in 2018, there will be serious investigations, and maybe impeachement. No conviction though.

As for Priutt and Sessions, I'm not so sure. Lying to Congress even pisses Republicans off.