Ooh, I found this. +1 Thucy

http://scholar.harvard.edu/cwinship/files/decline_black_marriage.pdf

Wait a second, did Thucy just agree that poor people don't get married because they can't afford a wedding? An you call that inequality? Well then let's start protesting Mercedes for making such expensive cars, they should be available to all people regardless of their income!

Poor people don't get married because they can't afford a wedding? Ahhhh ha ha ha. STUPIDEST fucking thing I have ever heard.

You actually can get married WITHOUT a wedding. It's a simple matter of filing some legal documents and standing before a magistrate. It really isn't that expensive.

But...you know this isn't about getting married....it's about IT ISN"T FAIR that we can'thave exactly what everyone else has in terms of material goods.

But...you know this isn't about getting married....this is about a desperately CORRUPT culture amongst certain populations of the poor, who make a choice to not get married, who make a choice to have children out of wedlock, etc....Pretty fucking funny when the claim is they can't afford to get married....but poor people sure do seem to have a knack for squeezing our babies!

Just a weeee bit of hypocrisy here....because babies are a hell of a lot more expensive than a marriage license...and the CHEAPEST thing of all is a fucking RUBBER.

He means condom.

You can also be wed without signing a marriage contract.

Um..NO

Don't see why you need a contract for a ceremony.
If you only care about the ring, the vow and none of the legal stuff, you can just say 'I do' and leave it at that.

I know the contract would have any impact on how much I would support my wife and so on.

Wouldn't*

Guys and gals... there are two purposes to sorting out the legal side of things. The first is in the sight of the law their are rights and duties attached to the state. Like visiting in hospital, access to kids if it breaks up, etc - you can replace the civil implied contract without getting married by drawing up your own contract, but you need to realise that all the stuff in the civil contract has been tested in law (crucial in the UK, where law is as much precedent and customary law as it is legislation), whereas your unique contract may be in cases of dispute subject to legal vulturine fucktards at a point when you have diminished emotional or physical resource. But signalling exit from that state is equally important and you really need to agree what happens in that circumstance in a legally binding compact. Love doesn't hack it, but a greedy ex-wife does...

damn damn... their = there

Kinda smart for a Brit ^^

*doffs cap, shuffles feet* gor blimey, you're not bad yourself... for a septic (cockney for a US citizen.)

Can't understand the bloody critter, but ya know, all good

Covenant marriages for everyone!

Paying for the wedding is a tiny part of the explanatjon. Yes you can just get a contract, but the main thing is that people who are not financially stable do not enter marriage because they are unable to attract a spouse in that conditon or feel they cannot support a spouse if they cannot even support themselves. The cost of the wedding may come into play - it is easy to say you can just get a contract, but it is also easy to say you do not need a funeral. Yet it is incredibly insensitive and crass to tell poor people to just disregard cherished traditions we all share because they are poor. you can't blame them for not wanting to. That said the cost of the wedding is a trivial part of the explanation.

"Out of people you see getting married lately, how many are poor? How many aren't white?"

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAA!
Ahahahahahahahhahahahahah!

Thanks Thucy, have you considered a career in stand-up?

About children: here we go again with the racist, sexist, classist (3 for the price of one!) bullshit breeder argument.

1) piss poor sex education (you can thank krellin's allies for this) means a lot of people don't know how to use birth control or contraceptives properly

2) it is the worst form of fascism to imply people do not have to right to reproduce. It's a fundamental human right outlined in the UDHR. You don't have to be married to have children. In fact if you interview many of the poor single mothers out there you find they are a single mother because they can better support their children that way. When you're poor, a spouse often turns into another mouth to feed, rather than being an asset.

I wouldn't expect insensitive pinheads like Krellin to have the ability to empathize with poor people's decision making process which can at times seem counterintuitive to one who has never had to deal with true poverty. But there is always a logic to it when you dig deeper. Bottom line: poor people's poverty is not their fault. It's time to put that propaganda back where in belongs: medieval times

@fiedler: care to answer the question then?

PROVERBS, 21:13

Whoever closes his ear to the cry of the poor will himself call out and not be answered.

Why would a woman want to marry a poor man?

I agree that rich marry more than poor do... that's natural. I think your argument that white people marry more than others is...weird.

But really I just think it's hilarious that you are taking this thread in the direction of national socialism.

It's doubly hilarious when we all know perfectly well that you are a CIA 'asset', just like your Daddy was/is. And when you are not busy 'picking oranges' (code for assassinating south americans) you like to come on here and sharpen your wits by pretending to be socialist. You mad cat, Lol. I love you and I accept you.

Lmao, we have a guy over here who doesn't think race and wealth are linked. Everyone come look

Thucy still proves to be a re-ard... Kanye..... He's soooooo poooor

Who is proving what? Lmao, I feel bad for you

GUYSSSSSSS

socioeconomically, the black and mexican community are less well off than the average white person. I'm sorry, it's pure facts. I don't like it, but IT'S TRUE.

ALSOOOOOO

the appeal of marriage is ten times less without a ceremony and a ring, so yes if you're poor it is less likely to get married. Is that a bad thing? more of a coincidental thing, but it's not like we should have charities for weddings, it is non-vital.

Thucydides, you worthless piece of dribble, crawl in a hole

Thucy will marry his mother. That's all that would have him

The fact remains: marriage equality cannot exist without addressing our runaway income inequality. That was my original point and I stand by it. Apparently some Fuckheads around here are too ignorant to know things like the relationship between race and affluence. Other fuckheads think a single outlier negates a worldwide trend... Lmao. You learn something new every day guys

DANCE MONKEYS DANCE

Awe Thucy. I see we can't take the traitor park out of you. Inbread is a distinction you carry so well.