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SYnapse (0 DX)
29 May 14 UTC
(+1)
Quotes that hit the nail on the head
see
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PSMongoose (2384 D)
21 May 14 UTC
(+3)
Synesthesia
I have always known that I perceive letters and numbers to have colors, but only just recently have I discovered that this condition has a name - Synesthesia. I'm curious as to whether anyone else on webDip thinks the letter K looks green or the letter A looks red...

Thoughts?
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sirdallas (1202 D)
29 May 14 UTC
World Map Question.
If you have Saudi Arabia occupied, it has 2 coasts. (North and South Coast.) Does that mean you can have 2 armies on Saudi Arabia at once?
2 replies
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
29 May 14 UTC
(+1)
Can anyone sit for me starting June 5?
Can you
6 replies
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Jamiet99uk (865 D)
29 May 14 UTC
(+1)
I need a sitter
Going to be away from the site for a week or so - details to follow...
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captainmeme (1723 DMod)
08 May 14 UTC
(+7)
WebDiplomacy Mafia II: vDiplomacy Invasion
NOTE: The rules for this game are almost exactly the same as for the last one, but with changes to the TIE-RESOLUTION METHOD and the additions of the MOLE and QUESTION ASKER roles. If you read the rules in the last thread, you can just skip to these sections in this one, as the rest is the same. If you did not, it is strongly advised you read the whole of the below post.
The post has been copied from PE’s post (with his permission) with edits to reflect the changes.
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JECE (1248 D)
16 May 14 UTC
(+1)
Ranking of web-based Diplomacy websites VIII
It has been over two years since the last time I did a ranking. This time I decided to try a new website:
http://www.similarweb.com/

For some prior statistics, see threadID=477664, threadID=489951, threadID=513357, threadID=535114, threadID=538014, threadID=662728 and threadID=815834.
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Bayclown (0 DX)
23 May 14 UTC
Openings?
Any good places/web pages to read about various openings and strategies for each country?
13 replies
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yebellz (729 D(G))
28 May 14 UTC
YELL AT EACH OTHER IN ALL CAPS HERE
LET'S YELL AT EACH OTHER IN ALL CAPS!

YOU'RE NOT VERY SMART AND YOUR MOTHER IS UNPLEASANT
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
28 May 14 UTC
Wife out of town, considering a possible live game tonight
My wife is going to be out of town with the kids. I will be home in 3 and a half hours. I have not played a live game on this site, so I thought I'd check to see interest.
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
27 May 14 UTC
Taking A Short Break
.
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semck83 (229 D(B))
27 May 14 UTC
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What is the worst song (or music) to have stuck in your head?
WARNING: DO NOT READ THIS THREAD.

Proceed.
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yebellz (729 D(G))
13 May 14 UTC
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Let's Go! ●○
Let's play go!
Rules: Play to win, learn, and have fun. You can only play for one color. You cannot move two turns in a row. Public discussion within this thread is allowed.
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yebellz (729 D(G))
15 May 14 UTC
REPOST for new board format and start a new page.
This board format seems to work well on most smartphones (please let me know if you find a counterexample). It might look bad on some other platforms (laptops, desktops), but you can copy-paste it into any text editor with a fixed-width font (like Courier New) to see the board properly aligned.

Last Move: Black M15

╔═════════════════════════════════════╗
║┌─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┐║A
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║B
║├─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┤║C
║├─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─╬─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─╬─┼─┼─┤║D
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║E
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║F
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║G
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║H
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║J
║├─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─╬─┼─┼─┤║K
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║L
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┤║M
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║N
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║O
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║P
║├─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┤║Q
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║R
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║S
║└─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┘║T
╚1══════════════════════════════════19╝

Captures:
● x 0
○ x 0

White to move

Last black move by: kaner406
Last white move by: ulytau


(just update the below team lists once per page and to add new players)

Black team:
yebellz
Shirley
kaner406

White team:
uclabb
A_Tin_Can
ulytau
dr. octagonapus
WardenDresdem
WardenDresden (239 D(B))
15 May 14 UTC
Last Move: White O7

╔═════════════════════════════════════╗
║┌─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┐║A
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║B
║├─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┤║C
║├─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─╬─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─╬─┼─┼─┤║D
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║E
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║F
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║G
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║H
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║J
║├─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─╬─┼─┼─┤║K
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║L
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┤║M
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║N
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║O
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║P
║├─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┤║Q
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║R
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║S
║└─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┘║T
╚1══════════════════════════════════19╝

Captures:
● x 0
○ x 0

Black to move

Last black move by: kaner406
Last white move by: WardenDresden


(just update the below team lists once per page and to add new players)

Black team:
yebellz
Shirley
kaner406

White team:
uclabb
A_Tin_Can
ulytau
dr. octagonapus
WardenDresden



(Someone misspelled my name with an M. As for the move, I think what I'm trying to do is secure more of that bottom-left corner by making it harder for black to get it toward the middle.)
yebellz (729 D(G))
15 May 14 UTC
Last Move: Black O3

╔═════════════════════════════════════╗
║┌─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┐║A
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║B
║├─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┤║C
║├─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─╬─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─╬─┼─┼─┤║D
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║E
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║F
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║G
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║H
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║J
║├─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─╬─┼─┼─┤║K
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║L
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┤║M
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║N
║├─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║O
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║P
║├─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┤║Q
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║R
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║S
║└─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┘║T
╚1══════════════════════════════════19╝

Captures:
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○ x 0

Black to move

Last black move by: yebellz
Last white move by: WardenDresden


Comments:
This probably isn't the biggest nor most urgent move, but let's see white reacts to this approach to their bottom left corner.

We've see a lot of high stones (5th and 6th lines away from the edge of the board) played. I was thinking of K17 earlier to undercut that white stone.

Are we being too casual leaving the upper-left unaddressed?

Sorry, Warden, my bad with the misspelling.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
15 May 14 UTC
Damn, Ye, I was just about to move.

I'll hold off. Joining the White team would make it very unbalanced.
kaner406 (356 D)
15 May 14 UTC
REPOST: Last Move: Black O3

╔═════════════════════════════════════╗
║┌─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┐║A
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║B
║├─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┤║C
║├─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─╬─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─╬─┼─┼─┤║D
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║E
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║F
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║G
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║H
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║J
║├─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─╬─┼─┼─┤║K
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║L
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┤║M
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║N
║├─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║O
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║P
║├─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┤║Q
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║R
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║S
║└─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┘║T
╚1══════════════════════════════════19╝

Captures:
● x 0
○ x 0

***WHITE*** to move

Last black move by: yebellz
Last white move by: WardenDresden

A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
15 May 14 UTC
Last move: White M4

╔═════════════════════════════════════╗
║┌─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┐║A
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║B
║├─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┤║C
║├─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─╬─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─╬─┼─┼─┤║D
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║E
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║F
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║G
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║H
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║J
║├─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─╬─┼─┼─┤║K
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║L
║├─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┤║M
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║N
║├─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║O
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║P
║├─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┤║Q
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║R
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║S
║└─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┘║T
╚1══════════════════════════════════19╝

Captures:
● x 0
○ x 0

***Black*** to move

Last black move by: yebellz
Last white move by: A_Tin_Can

(as an aside, this new board does not display correctly for me on anything I've looked at it with - mac desktop, or an iphone/ipad. The old one was fine on all platforms).
kaner406 (356 D)
15 May 14 UTC
copy and paste it:

http://notepad-plus-plus.org/download/v6.6.2.html
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
15 May 14 UTC
I don't get White's insistence on playing in the bottom left corner with so many moves. Hence I will exploit this as black,

╔═════════════════════════════════════╗
║┌─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┐║A
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║B
║├─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┤║C
║├─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─╬─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─╬─┼─┼─┤║D
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║E
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║F
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┤║G
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║H
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║J
║├─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─╬─┼─┼─┤║K
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║L
║├─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┤║M
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║N
║├─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║O
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║P
║├─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┤║Q
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║R
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║S
║└─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┘║T
╚1══════════════════════════════════19╝

Last move: Black G16

Last black move by: gobbledydook
Last white move by: A Tin Can
kaner406 (356 D)
15 May 14 UTC
Black team:
yebellz
Shirley
kaner406
Gobbledydook

White team:
uclabb
A_Tin_Can
ulytau
dr. octagonapus
WardenDresden
omg the wonders of jaggedy squares
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
15 May 14 UTC
╔═════════════════════════════════════╗
║┌─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┐║A
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║B
║├─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┤║C
║├─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─╬─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─╬─┼─┼─┤║D
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┤║E
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║F
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┤║G
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║H
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║J
║├─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─╬─┼─┼─┤║K
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║L
║├─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┤║M
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║N
║├─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║O
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║P
║├─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┤║Q
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║R
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║S
║└─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┘║T
╚1══════════════════════════════════19╝

Last move: White E16
Last white move by: abge
Last black move by: gobbledydook
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
15 May 14 UTC
Black team:
yebellz
Shirley
kaner406
Gobbledydook

White team:
uclabb
A_Tin_Can
ulytau
dr. octagonapus
WardenDresden
abge
kaner406 (356 D)
15 May 14 UTC
Black => D 2

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║┌─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┐║A
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║B
║├─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┤║C
║├─●─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─╬─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─╬─┼─┼─┤║D
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┤║E
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║F
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┤║G
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║H
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║J
║├─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─╬─┼─┼─┤║K
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║L
║├─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┤║M
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║N
║├─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║O
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║P
║├─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┤║Q
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║R
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║S
║└─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┘║T
╚1══════════════════════════════════19╝

Captures:
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***White*** to move

Last white move by: abge
Last black move by: kaner406


yebellz (729 D(G))
16 May 14 UTC
(+1)
http://eidogo.com/#2zw7yRkop:0,19
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
16 May 14 UTC
I don't like the D2 move, moving to the 2-column voluntary generally doesn't do you much. I think more pressing was E17 to deny the white piece its influence. Now white E17 and the black piece on G16 is cut off.
yebellz (729 D(G))
16 May 14 UTC
E17 would hardly cut off the g16 stone. That group can still run uphill (away from the edge) to safety or dive under the white k15 stone. E17 might be a somewhat heavy move and I think leave that white group under more threat of being cut off. If that white group runs to the left, black can chase along the upperside make plenty of territory.

I don't like the D2 move either, not because we could have played elsewhere, but mainly because it's not a very effective move. It offers white a peep, which we must awkwardly answer. D3 (following standard joseki) would have been much more effective for blocking white off from expanding down the left side.
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
16 May 14 UTC
The point wasn't to cut off the g16 stone, the point was that the g16 stone couldn't cause problems if it was blocked. Of course you can't catch it.
yebellz (729 D(G))
16 May 14 UTC
There are some decent beginner's pages on Sensei's Library (the wiki for all things related to go):
http://senseis.xmp.net/?BeginnerStudySection
http://senseis.xmp.net/?PagesForBeginners

Those are very good places to start for beginner self-study.

However, I thought it would also be useful to put together a rough syllabus of some basic concepts that beginners should aim to familiarize themselves with. You probably already know several of these and will no doubt encounter them as you study beginner guides, but I figure this list would be helpful to point out some things that you might have overlooked. For unfamiliar terms/topics, searching on Sensei's Library will most likely turn up a relevant result.

A Rough Early Beginner's Syllabus

1. Elementary mechanics
a) Identifying groups: recognizing connected vs unconnected stones
b) Counting liberties
c) Understanding capture mechanics, recognizing atari
2. Basic capturing tactics
a) Basic edge patterns for captures on the first, second, and third lines
b) Ladders and nets
c) Snapbacks
d) Capturing races
3. Life and death
a) Recognizing eyes and eye space
b) Understanding why two eyes live but one eye dies
c) Identifying living and dead groups
d) Basic life/death eye space shapes: three in a row, four in row, bulky five, etc.
e) The concept of territory as the eye space of living groups
4. Opening principles
a) Start in the corners, then move to the sides, and finally colonize the center
b) Playing on the third and fourth lines
c) Corner enclosure and approach patterns (very basic joseki)
d) Don't blindly memorize and follow complex joseki as a beginner, developing other fundamental skills is more important
5. General and mid-game principles
a) Sente and gote
b) Understanding urgent vs big moves
c) The balance of influence vs territory
6. Endgame
a) Recognizing when the game is over vs when more gains can be made
b) Identifying moves necessary to solidify positions vs those which are wastful

This list is far from complete, but hopefully offers a rough guide of beginner topics.
kaner406 (356 D)
17 May 14 UTC
Bump

When I was learning the game I relied upon D.B. Pritchard's book 'GO: A guide to the game'. But those links are good too yebellz.
yebellz (729 D(G))
18 May 14 UTC
Yeah, I fully agree that a beginner book is a very good way to get started. A good book can provide much needed structure toward covering the necessary elementary topics. Wandering through Sense's library, even with those above guides can a be a little daunting. It's nice to have a book to guide one through the basics.

The only issue is that (in the US at least) go books seem to be much harder to come by (compared to chess books). Overall, the volume of English literature and interest in the western world is relatively low . Book stores and libraries rarely have a decent stock, if any at all. You might have better luck at the type of game store that carries nice chess sets, which might also have some go equipment and a selection of go books. If you have local go club (look for nearby chapters of the American Go Association at http://www.usgo.org/), then you might be lucky enough to find that they have little club library lending books to club members. Of course, the ability of interacting with a local club would provide much more learning opportunities than just access to books.

Amazon and other internet vendors make it possible to buy virtually any book, but figuring out the right choice to put down money on is important. I would recommend checking out some of the below reviews.

David Carlton has compiled a very comprehensive bibliography of English Go books (as well as some in French and Italian):
http://www.gobooks.info/
He seems to have personally read and reviewed a very large amount of go books.

In particular, he has a nice guide to various beginner's books here:
http://www.gobooks.info/bib-difficulty.html#first
He recommends the first seven in that list.

I personally learned the basics from the first three books of Janice Kim's Learn to Play Go series. It's a very clearly written introduction to the game, and seems to be well recommended among other beginner options. The downside of this series is that the development is somewhat slow and the material covered in these three books seems to be similarly covered in other single volume beginner books. Thus, some other options might provide a bit more bang for the buck in only having to pay for one denser volume rather than three.

Note: the book that kaner mentioned seems to be out of print (see http://www.gobooks.info/pritchard.html).

This blogger also does some interesting book and equipment reviews.
http://www.bengozen.com/reviews/books/
yebellz (729 D(G))
19 May 14 UTC
Bump, team white's turn
ulytau (541 D)
20 May 14 UTC
(+1)
Looks like the situation I caused has to be adressed by me as well, although I'm not a very good player :)

Black D2 is an interesting move for our game since it's not a joseki response to the corner invasion at 3-3. White D3 is a natural response which necessitates Black E3, otherwise Black accepts a very solid cut by White at E3 without accomplishing much. While White D3 doesn't provide any more liberties for the white corner group, trying to run at position like C3 requires underestimating Black, since Black has influence (albeit far away) on every side of the corner so every such situation should eventually end favourably for Black.

After Black D2, White D3, Black E3, the situation in corner might have several resolutions - White can get a connected ko, Black can get caught up in a ladder... The situation should in general favour White but we will see how the game develops.

White => D3

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║┌─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┐║A
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║B
║├─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┤║C
║├─●─○─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─╬─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─╬─┼─┼─┤║D
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┤║E
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║F
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┤║G
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║H
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║J
║├─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─╬─┼─┼─┤║K
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║L
║├─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┤║M
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║N
║├─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║O
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║P
║├─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┤║Q
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║R
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║S
║└─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┘║T
╚1══════════════════════════════════19╝

Captures:
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***Black*** to move

Last white move by: ulytau
Last black move by: kaner406
yebellz (729 D(G))
21 May 14 UTC
Black=> E3

╔═════════════════════════════════════╗
║┌─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┐║A
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║B
║├─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┤║C
║├─●─○─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─╬─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─╬─┼─┼─┤║D
║├─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┤║E
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║F
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┤║G
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║H
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║J
║├─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─╬─┼─┼─┤║K
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║L
║├─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┤║M
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║N
║├─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║O
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║P
║├─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┤║Q
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║R
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║S
║└─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┘║T
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White to move

Last white move by: ulytau
Last black move by: yebellz
ulytau (541 D)
22 May 14 UTC
Bumpity bump my white team bros.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
23 May 14 UTC
White R15

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║┌─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┐║A
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║B
║├─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┤║C
║├─●─○─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─╬─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─╬─┼─┼─┤║D
║├─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┤║E
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║F
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┤║G
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║H
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║J
║├─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─╬─┼─┼─┤║K
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║L
║├─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┤║M
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║N
║├─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║O
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─●─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║P
║├─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┤║Q
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─○─┼─┼─┼─┤║R
║├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤║S
║└─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┘║T
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Captures:
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Black to move

Last white move by: abge
Last black move by: yebellz
yebellz (729 D(G))
23 May 14 UTC
Interesting, abge plays tenuki (away from the top left fight).

If we black plays c4, I think we can ultimately capture the two white stones and regain that corner.

Should we do that or should we try a potentially bigger move elsewhere? What do people think?
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
23 May 14 UTC
I'm not convinced we could have saved the top left, even if I moved there. Thoughts?
yebellz (729 D(G))
23 May 14 UTC
Current Position
http://eidogo.com/#30JBajhLG:0,22

Hypothetical lines
(for both continuing from current position with black C4 and if white had continued the fight in upper-left instead of tenuki last turn)
http://eidogo.com/#DH8TGR2K:0,21

Many of those lines aren't very accurate and show continuations off of bad moves as well.
ulytau (541 D)
24 May 14 UTC
(+1)
I think if abge moved D15, life for White could be achieved. Anything else than D14, D17, E15, E16 for Black would result in Black D16 being laddered by white so I analyzed these moves - http://eidogo.com/#XIdUe5aX:0,0
yebellz (729 D(G))
24 May 14 UTC
Thanks for the analysis, ulytau.

Come on, fellow webdippers, step on up to join team black.

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