@Santa - you weren't? Oh...really? When the trolls start rolling out with the "Israel is evil....everything they do is wrong and corrupt and blah blah blah...." narrow-minded nonsense, one only assumes that they are as equally unrealistic about the rest of the region.

Forgive me for not understanding how you take such a wonderful nuanced position regarding the rest of the middle-east.....<rolls eyes...gags...vomits....laughs my ass off at SantaCommunist>

My position is that the right wing pm of Israel, an unapologetic hawk and all around obnoxious ass whipe, known to be corrupt and to have the diplomatic tact of your drunken uncle, is not suitable to be at the reigns of any country, let alone one going through a crucial time in regional history.

My position is not nuanced, I am a left wing Zionist. On the other hand you are an ignorant troll who would see such a view as nuanced

Hee hee....stop lying, SantaCommuinist. So I'm curious, where do you send your Al Queada donations?

Curious as well -- what is your opinion of the Great Obama as a world diplomat?

I honestly feel that Obama has been dropping the ball by alienating allies while not replacing them with new allies. I feel he did the right thing in Libya, should not have done anything besides the chemical weapons deal in syria, and although the jury is out on this deal, I feel it is not good enough. A 6 month deal? Not good enough. I feel that for the last thirty years american foreign policy has been a muddled mess that has compromised the incredible hand we have been dealt on the world stage. The Obama administration is a continuation of that failure, although at least it didn't result in the deaths of hundreds of thousand like George bush administration.

Well at least that has put the lie to the Zionist tail wagging the American dog theory. Watch out Israel, keep your enemies close and your "friends" even closer. Give it time.......

"The Obama administration is a continuation of that failure, although at least it didn't result in the deaths of hundreds of thousand like George bush administration. "

<sigh...> Apologist....you realize Obama has continued the policy of endless war that Bush started, right? He deserves no credit for not killing "hundreds of thousands". Hell...who knows how many civies that a*****le kills daily with his drone air force flying over allies nations...

He was left to clean up the mess bush made. I'm hardly an apologist.

He's hasn't tried to clean up, he's doubled down. In terms of foreign policy, Obama is at least as bad as Bush was.

There are no troops in Iraq. I don't know how that is doubling down. And how about you answer why you are willing to give Iran a pass for the brutal anti insurgency in syria but Israel is squarely guilty of atrocities?

Lets hear it

Puh-lease....how long does it take to "clean up the mess". Apologist.

By cleaning up are you referring to his attempts to get an **indefinite** prolonging of the war in Afghanistan? Good lord...

Awwwwww hell...I'm agreeing with mendax. What the heck is wrong with this world....

A long fucking time.

@Santa - Bush was *also* working on agreements to get troops out of Iraq, based upon meeting certain *military* objectives.

Further, Obama was KICKED OUT OF IRAQ....he attempted to keep troops there, but the PM said get the fuck out.

Nice try.

No, there are no troops. There's just thousands of US backed mercenaries. I fail to see how this is an improvement.

Obama is arguably more of a war criminal that Bush ever was, with his unrestrained increase in the use of drones to kill any random f*ing convoy in Pakistan that gets his rocks off.

Bush put us in this mess in the first place. I don't think there's any argument. He shouldn't have had to deal with Iraq in the dr first place if it wasn't for bush campaign of lies.

Where's your answer mendax. Iran is sponsoring atrocities in Iraq too. What's your spin on that,

I've said already that both the rebels and the government have been terrible. I don't know what more you're looking for.

Actually, SantaCommunist, the entire Democrat and Republican Congress was in aboslute agreement at the time, and passed legislation giving him the authorization to do so. Your sad revisionist history does't stand up to the facts of history.

Q: How do you know when an Obama butt-boy has a guilty conscience and has been caught with his pants down in an argument?

A: He deflects and blames Bush.

Can't tell which is worse - the ultra-leftists who are never pleased or the warmongering liberal who is happy about the destruction of Libya.

"Iran a pass for the brutal anti insurgency in syria"

So the Syrians should just hold the hands of the Saudi funded jihadists, or what?

"Putin33 is divorced from reality. "

Oh what else is new, the imperialist lackey says I'm divorced from reality. Never met a war he didn't support. Never met a country he didn't want to demonize.

No, I'm not divorced from reality. The elected President is not a cleric. The elected parliament are not clerics. That's what not being a theocracy looks like. Sorry if that's inconvenient for your vilification narrative.

"The official name of the country is "The Islamic Republic of Iran""

The official name of Pakistan is the "Islamic Republic of Pakistan". It's meaningless. It's just a title. It's still run by a secular head of government and the parliament are elected and also not clerics.

"The Head of State is a Shia cleric who is also the head of the Shia religion in Iran."

The Head of State in the UK is also the head of the Church of England. Is the UK theocratic? The Faqih (Khamanei) does not run the day to day affairs of government.

"- Its legal system is founded on Sharia Law."

Not really. Sharia law has been supplanted and they have a modern civil judiciary modeled after French civil law.

I'm looking for why the syrian civil war is some kind of moral wash in the minds of idiots like you, but blame in the Israeli Palestinian conflict falls squarely on Israel. Perhaps you can enlighten me hypocrite.

Putin-

Iran can literally lead the syrian anti insurgency all they like. I'm just wondering why an idiot like mendax is willing to treat Iran, whose generals are directly responsible for thousands of deaths in syria, with kid gloves, and Israel like monsters. I'm waiting for an explanation which he refuses to give.

The elected president and the elected parliament are not necessarily clerics, true. Many still have been, but they don't need to be. HOWEVER, the Supreme Leader, much more powerful than the near-figurehead president has to be a cleric, as does the Guardian Council, which wields immense power in the way the state is run. If that's not a theocracy I don't know what one would look like, short of another Vatican.

Saying Iran isn't a theocracy is just hairsplitting to allow you to not feel dirty about supporting them. I wonder what you have to say about how Iran executes homosexuals.

Keep calling me an imperialist lackey. I relish how silly you look even writing such an anachronistic term of abuse. It we could change handles I'd consider abandoning Invictus for it.

Easy, there are no homosexuals in Iran. It has been proven.

"whose generals are directly responsible for thousands of deaths in syria"

Citation needed.

For what it's worth, Iran is clearly by no means a perfect state. This doesn't mean, however, that we should be blocking their legitimate energy needs.

Answer the question hypocrite.