OK, why not, I haven't engaged in a conversation in a bit...
"the Bible is full of advise on living, not just worship. Just like any philosophy. You can be completely atheist, and read the Bible for good advise on living if you so choose."
I'd disagree on the grounds that the "advice on living" in the Bible stems from a religiously-centered, religiously-dependent premise ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY:
That premise being: God is good, ergo, God's word and God's advice and actions are good.
If you grant that, then you can at least attempt to entertain the moral suggestions made in the Bible (though I'd still argue they run into other problems in some sections, but AT LEAST we can entertain them.)
But...first we have to grant that premise, and
1. I'd argue we cannot, that--here comes the Hitchens--God is Not Great, or even Good, and indeed, the argument for a moral God cannot be made OBJECTIVELY reading Genesis and, as Genesis is the foundation of the rest of the Bible (even if you want to--correctly--say the Bible was written by separate people and thus the Author of Genesis, whoever he was, does NOT have authorial influence over the writer of, say, Exodus or Luke or John, STILL, as they're all of one canon in the Christian book, ie, the Bible, they must be inter-textually treated as such, the same way that different episodes of Doctor Who, say, have been written by different writers, but they ALL affect one another, that is, if someone writes a story today, to some extent, it must adhere to the continuity and rules set down in the 1960s Doctor Who, if it directly contradicted--say, if the Doctor was suddenly a human and had only one life and had never heard of the Daleks--then everyone would cry foul, as they're part of the same canonical continuity, LIKEWISE, the goings-on in Exodus or Luke or John or whatever other book MUST follow the bylaws set down by Genesis, because if it were otherwise and suddenly Noah was the first man and not Adam or there was no Flood or whatever else, there'd be a severe contradiction and the religious community would all cry foul) then THE WORD OF GENESIS *MUST* BE GRANTED *MORALLY* FOR THE REST OF THE BIBLE TO FOLLOW...
AND i SAY IT DOES NOT WORK MORALLY AND CANNOT MORALLY BE GRANTED.
BUT, even if it were,
2. Even THEN you'd be granting a RELIGIOUS-BASED axiom, ie, that God is Great based on the religious word or Genesis, and so, again, your supposed ethical or moral reading of the Bible would at the very least be indirectly be tied to a religious axiom you are granting, and thus, the Bible cannot be read for secular advice in living, as any advice given, again, must stem from its original premise, "God is Great/Good," morally and otherwise, and to grant that axiom is an intrinsically religious statement and NOT a secular one, you cannot secularly state "God is Great" because that admits the existence of a/the god/God.
Does anybody remember that troll...
available when you were defeated in any game (regardless of how many Diplopoints you had in play at the time). He would get over 100 
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