Or would you accept there are certain, indeed many behaviours that are simply unnaceptable around minors ?

You know the purpose of insults is to be offensive, right...?

Also, it's "intellectually lazy" to misrepresent demographics you're not even part of by claiming ownership of their opinion. My girlfriend, who is lying right next to me, can very simply disprove your assertation that these words are offensive to "all women". She's a woman. She's not offended. Q.E.D.

I don't even understand what's your problem with these words in particular. Why is motherfucker or cunt worse than any other word? Why do you have to be such an uptight ladypart? I'm honestly flabbergasted.

While I don't necessarily agree with all of MajorMitchell's stated impacts, I do believe there is an issue with insults generally being gendered in an imbalanced way. Like the fact that Clownie said "why do you have to be such an uptight ladypart" is kinda just sad. Also, MM said many women and not all women. Also, even if your girlfriend doesn't find it offensive herself doesn't mean it's not meant to be offensive to women. I'm not personally offended by it but I acknowledge it's meant to be demeaning.

Clownie, how DARE you call MM an "uptight ladypart" ?!? I personally consider the term "uptight ladypart" to be VERY offsensive and wish we could all agree to not use it in the forums. You really should be more politically correct, Clownie, you offsensive father-copulator.

Again Clownie you are misrepresenting me..
I have repeatedly stated that I think these words are offensive .... It's an expression of an opinion ( like my opinion that you are behaving like a stupid cork brained clown ) An expression of an opinion is significantly different from a "statement of fact" as any competent lawyer in the libel/defamation field knows.
You say your girlfriend wouldn't be offended by their use ? ( I am tempted to enquire whether she is the "inflatable" type ) Well call her a combination of those words in front of her family and see how that works out for you.

I accept that I am a much flawed individual, that at times I do stupid things, that I don't have "all the answers" & I am most definitely not the wisest owl in the tree. But pointing out my personal faults does not invalidate something I support.

Likewise, just because I might not be able to produce the superbly well constructed logical arguments in favour of this thing I support, similarly does not invalidate the thing I support.

You didn't answer my question, and are yourself resorting to ad hominem. I hold that veiled ad hominem is much more offensive than outright insults, since at least the latter is honest.

So, why are these particular terms so outrageously offensive? Can I call someone an electric retard, but not a motherfucker?

@DO, my apologies for your offence at the gender imbalance. I officially retract my statement that Mitchell is an uptight ladypart; instead, I must say he's rather the uptight bumhole. I think this is much more gender-egalitarian.

Interesting fact major Mitchell, yes I do have children, and yes I do use certain words in front of them when context demands it. Such as hitting my hand with a hammer or when Germany bounces me in Sweden. I've found kids are pretty smart about context too, when allowed to be little humans.

I respect your attempts to civilize the forum though, mm. There are some lazy gibberish indulging folks around here, mostly teenagers. But then, teenagers are little hormone driven sociopaths drunk on there own narcissistic impulses, so I just try to avoid engaging them in anything meaningful. Oh woops there I go talking about POTUS again.

My girlfriend (who is currently banned for playing on the same IP as me, and hasn't bothered to correct it yet, but I'm asking her to for the purpose of this thread) would also like to point out that Mitchell is himself being extremely patronising towards women and literally putting them in the same category as children, as a sort of virtue icon that needs protection. I quote:

"As I have remarked before, there are teenagers, "children"/ minors in the legal sense who use this site as well as women."

Feign ignorance all you want, but the overtones here are, well, overtones. Why can women not decide for themselves what they need to be protected from? What sets them apart from men and next to children in this issue?

I'm not offended by your language, Mitchell, but I am offended by your authoritarian and sexist demeanour.

Your girlfriend needs to read the thread better because that isn't what he's saying at all. He's saying the terms are offensive towards women, not that they should be protected from hearing them. Chill the fuck out. There is a clear distinction in what he's saying.

Hey, don't say the F word! That's ~terribly offensive~!

Really, though, I beg to differ. Why is it offensive towards women? Why should Mitchell get to decide that it's offensive to women, rather than women themselves, on an individual basis?

The real question is why would anyone ever get offended by anything on the internet?

This thread is motherfucking stupid.

It's offensive because it's a gendered insult. How is that hard to fathom. He has an issue with the "mother" part of it, largely. Why is he not allowed to state his opinion because of his gender?

I don't particularly give a shit about this thread or topic but Clownie attacking MM for stating his not-entirely-wrong opinion because Clownie has a gf who thinks otherwise is ridiculous.

@MajorMitchell

I love how in the current society people get so offended by words, even if no deeper meaning is intended. "Motherfucker", "cunt", "bitch", all of those can be used as deliberately, to show disrespect to women etc., but it is not the word that is hurting people, but rather the intended message behind it. If you call a feminist at a rally a "cunt" it's rather obvious that you mean it as a disrespect to her gender, but if I call my friend a "cunt" while playing a game, who exactly am I disrespecting? To be absolutely honest I have the same views when it comes to "nigger". I cannot simply grasp how the word can be so bad that even when quoting someone people still say "the n-word". In my opinion such fear associated with one word gives it just more power. You look at a bunch of people and say "Those fucking niggers" and spit on the ground? Well, you're an asshole, get cancer or whatever, but the word is not the problem, your attitude is and I honestly don't see how saying that is any worse than saying "Those fucking afro-americans" and spitting on the ground.

Let me give you another example that comes to mind, though it might be rather obscure to most of you:
In Poland there is a huge campaign now, expressed with #GermanDeathCamps. Every couple months or so people lose their shit because some Spanish newspaper or some news site in Sweden used the term "Polish death camps" (as in, the ones during WW2). Of course they were not "Polish" in the sense that they weren't run by Poles - they were Nazi German. But many of them were located in Poland which might make sense why some journalists that don't know any better might describe them as "Polish". Nevertheless, every single time it's such a beautiful shitstorm, this time they started the hashtag, paralysed german TV facebook site, and rented the kind of sign you tow behind your car to drive around Europe - it reads "German Death Camps". A bit of an overkill, especially since exactly the same people (i.e. Polish far-right) often tell jokes like "We already have all the infrastructure to accommodate all the refugees", with relation to Auschwitz.

So my question is - you are hurt by the word "motherfucker", but is it not the disrespect that some people mean using it that is the bad part? Do you think that banning the word would change that attitude in any way?

Waaaaaaaah people are using words I don't like on the internet!

You fatherfuckers need to stop taking away my free speech.

that goes for you sister fisters and butt brothers too

@DO: ?????????????

He said it's offensive to all women. That's not an opinion, it's an assertation, and a wrong one at that. I took issue with it and found an exception to the assertation, thereby objectively proving him wrong by demonstration. That's not a personal attack. Please point out a single personal attack I made.

Also, why are gendered insults more offensive than others? Humans have two sexes. References to this are bound to show up in profanity. What's the problem?

Yes.

"Cocksucker" is still okay to say though, yes?

I think we should make it "genitalsucker" for the sake of gender neutrality.

I propose genitallollipopper, so as not to discriminate against any brand of long-lasting stemmed confection

I actually think cocksucker is used against women/homosexuals so that doesn't QUITE fit...

but yeah genitalgargler is my pick

speaking of which...

how do we change our usernames?

Clownie is an ass and a dick and likes to make a vacuum seal on protruding objects

@James, it's still sexism if it's against men. I'll vote for genitalgargler too, though.