Obama is still the worest. I say this if nothing else to piss off ogion

I know less about pre-Wilson presidents, but every American president Wilson onward is a bad person. Some worse than others.
JFK, Eisenhower, and Obama all may have at least had some conscience though.

I keep flip flopping on whether Obama has a conscience though. It's sometimes hard to tell.

His conscience tells him to play golf on the tax payers dollar

How about the tax dollars going into killing kids who will potentially become terrorists via drone in the Middle East?

Again "Worst President Ever"

We've constantly been engaged in war since WWII. Killing children is nothing new around these parts.

I'm pretty sure that half of this thread's contributors though Thomas Sowell was a president...

Ssorenn, have you been alive for other presidencies? Do you really think Obama is the worst?

Was I called both a white supremacist and a black redneck? Amazing.

they also called you 'resident nasty woman'. i didn't believe that one either. of course when you cannot win an argument with logic and facts, throw mud and call names. that's what we did in kindergarten

Obama isn't even close to the worst president ever overall.

Focusing exclusively on US-Israeli relations, it is debatable whether the Obama administration did the right thing. But after 30 years of occupying Palestinian lands, peace and a two-state solution was not on the horizon--mainly due to Bibi and Boehner IMO.

funny how the majority of those 'bad' presidents were democrats or of the forerunner party the Democratic-Republicans or anti-Federalists. and reconstruction ended because of the Hayes-Tilden election as a deal forced by the democrats to allow Hayes to have the presidency.

The Iran deal also facilitated sentiments against the wishes of the Supreme Leader regarding global cooperation, to the point of electing a parliament and Council of Elders that are far more pro-West than in the past. Khamenei won't survive 8 years. After that, of the United States can show we were able to be trusted to uphold our end of the Iran deal, the next Supreme Leader will be someone more sympathetic to us.

The US should have just given the Jews Montana and renamed it Israel. We don't use it for anything.

@Flum. I've been around at LOT longer than MOST of you

hey guys did you know that ssorenn is old and experienced?

@ssorenn: Longer than Thomas Sowell?

Older than most here

Is it his age or longevity on this site

Good god the stupidity It burns. How about the guy who was the ONLY president to lose jobs over his terms an drag us into two pointless wars and fail to stop the worst attack on the US since WWII and left the economy in the worst shape since the depression? How can anyone top that? The very notion that the guy who brought the economy back doubled the stock market value, cut the uninsured rate by two thirds, slowed out of control health care inflation, wound down those wars and oversaw the longest continuous expansion in a very long time and took major steps toward dealing with climate change is the worst ever is so breathtakingly stupid it really shows what a moron Thomas Sewell is. Like most conservatives, he is completely unhinged from reality. People who pontificate while on crack should be roundly mocked and humiliated

He's back^^^^^

On. OBama may have been in office. But he did NOT bring the economy back ---stupid notion. His policies of zero interest rates have created a. Bigger bubble than we had before ---Ogion, from someone who thinks they're so smart---you're not that smart

Unployment may have fallen but the participation rate is at a 40 year low.

These policies also created the largest wealth gap in history. These are the reasons for unrest. The one percent became the .5 percent under Obama. He did not help the people. Are you fucking nuts. Ogion, if you don't understand monetary policy don't talk about it

Job creation numbers should also be taken with a grain of salt. The numbers Obama boasts includes people who have to take second or third or so on jobs to get by.

Hey DO have you seen hidden figures yet? The nerds win. Math is king

ssorenn: The Federal Reserve controls interest rates, not the President... The bubble is suspected by some, but if it exists and bursts, would be quite less painful than the Great Recession. The wealth gap was further widened by the fallout from the Great Recession, not liberal economics. The wealthy had the cash flow to take advantage of the steep economic down turn. Do you know monetary policy?

Great movie seen it twice so far