Correct, but not all premises are subjective , right?

For instance, you existing is a true premise.

my point was that God is Love; that God has limits even in omnipotence. remember that 'potence' is power. all powerful does not mean 'can do everything'

premises depend on a base understanding. the base itself may be flawed

how do you know that i exist, anyway?

"all powerful does not mean 'can do everything' " -True.

premises depend on a base understanding. the base itself may be flawed"
But we can be sure of something's right? (DesCartes)

*something is right.

You know that you exist. So you can't deny every premise.

sure i can deny premises; that's my free will to choose. i can choose to be wrong even if i don't exist.

Ok, but you won't, because the end goal is to discover the Truth.

Quo vadis?

*some things, right

(When grammar nitpicks are more interesting than the actual conversation...)

Thank you, yes. I'm on my phone, so I appreciate it.

Mandos, quo vadis?

que vertias?

With what do I go?

Oh, What is truth?

Good question. That's is why we are having this conversation, no?

If God doesn't life, does he get flabby? He seems kind of middle aged to me. If he has a dad bod, is he still sexy?

Can God microwave a burrito so hot even he can't eat it?

@CAPT Brad: "God cannot hate you; that would violate his nature as a loving God."

According to the bible, you are wrong. The Bible is full of examples of God hating people:

Psalm 5:6 "The LORD abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man"

Proverbs 6:16-19: "There are six things that the Lord hates,
seven that are an abomination to him: Haughty eyes, a lying tongue,
and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans,
feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies,
and one who asows discord among brothers."

Malachai 1:3: "Esau I have hated, and I have turned his hill country into a wasteland and left his inheritance to the desert jackals."

Revelation 2:6: "Yet this you have: you hate the works of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate."

Wisdom 11:25—12:2 For you love all things that are and loathe nothing that you have made; for you would not fashion what you hate. How could a thing remain, unless you willed it; or be preserved, had it not been called forth by you? But you spare all things, because they are yours, O Ruler and Lover of souls, for your imperishable spirit is in all things!

Trollsnack, what purpose would that serve? God doesn't eat burritos.

Jamiet do not be: one who asows discord among brothers

Interesting that you think the Bible is wrong then, Brad.

The Bible is neither right or wrong. The understanding of the meaning is the crux of the argument. Answer the meaning of this sentence: I never said I saw you take the money from the cash register.

@jamiet - I really appreciate that you brought in the text of scripture. Thank you! fwiw, I think the passage from Proverbs really brings to the fore one important and consistent point with God - He hates the vices and sin, but loves the person.

A good 80% of this thread is complete drivel.

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do you mean "this thread is drivel because I disagree with some of the conclusions" or "this thread is drivel because the subject could be discussed in greater depth and detail" or "this thread is drivel because I don't think the subject at hand is important"?