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Brankl (231 D)
23 Aug 16 UTC
Civil Disorder
Are the rules for entering Civil Disorder different than they used to be?
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c0dyz (100 D)
25 Aug 16 UTC
Classic fun game
Looking for people who just want to play a low stakes game. Classic map, full press.
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olafpearl (0 DX)
25 Aug 16 UTC
Purchase high quality Passport, Visa, driving license, ID cards, IELTS.
We offer high quality Passport, Visa, driving license, ID cards, IELTS.([email protected])

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olafpearl (0 DX)
25 Aug 16 UTC
Buy high quality Passport, Visa, driving license, ID cards, IELTS.
purchase registered and unregistered passport of all countries.visas,biometric
passport,degrees,drivers license,I.D cards.Training certificates M
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Sandman99 (95 D)
25 Aug 16 UTC
Guess who's Back!!
Hola Bitches! What have I missed?
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JEccles (421 D)
25 Aug 16 UTC
Support question
I have a question about fleets supporting other fleets that are convoying units, and how the move would work.
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maastrictian (139 D)
24 Aug 16 UTC
Declining a Build
Is it possible to decline a build? It should be legal, but I don't see a way to do it in the interface.

From the fourth edition of the rules: "A country can decline to build a unit that it is entitled to for any reason."
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ghug (5068 D(B))
26 Jul 16 UTC
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MAFIA XXII: Something is Rotten in the State of Denmark
This is the game thread for Mafia XXII. See below for more info.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
23 Aug 16 UTC
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/massachusetts-student-accused-rape-receives-probation-article-1.2761497

Face. Palm.
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God's Lonely Man (0 DX)
23 Aug 16 UTC
NEW LIVE GAME!!!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=182246
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brainbomb (290 D)
22 Aug 16 UTC
The Staff of 1000 wishes.
He clutched the staff of 1000 wishes and closed his eyes.
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Juanbo (291 D)
21 Aug 16 UTC
New game (fall of the American empire)
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=182096
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
14 Aug 16 UTC
Shared rights for a pc-game
Hey guys,
I'm creating a pc-game with a small group of people and we're wondering whether the rights can be shared.
We wonder whether all creators can be owners for a percentage of the product rather than just having one nominal owner who hands out the money to the other creators without having to create a joint company for just the one product. Does anyone know if that is possible, how and where the limitations are?
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Savage Cabbage (100 DX)
21 Aug 16 UTC
WANTED - 4 MORE PEOPLE!
We need 4 more people to join this world game!
I have a really good feeling that this will be extremely interesting and equally enjoyable.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=181901
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Red-Lion (382 D)
18 Aug 16 UTC
Newbie here
Hi! I'm new to the game and the site. What are points? Chess has a rating system, but I'm curious to how the Points system works out in Diplomacy.

Since I'm new and am likely to get backstabbed pretty frequently in the first few games, how fast can I hit zero and what happens if I exceed my expectations and actually get there? :-)
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Halls of Mandos (1019 D)
09 Aug 16 UTC
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Olympics
There seemed to be a lack of an Olympic thread...
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Halls of Mandos (1019 D)
14 Jul 16 UTC
World Diplomacy
What's not to like? enemies all around to manipulate, 15 other goats to blame your stabs on, and more SCs than you could dream of!
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SplitDiplomat (101466 D)
18 Aug 16 UTC
New GB game
gameID=181983
3 players
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Juanbo (291 D)
19 Aug 16 UTC
New Game
Started a new game map:fall of the american empire. Not seen many of those maps available to join so started my own game if anyone wants to join?
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ckroberts (3548 D)
09 Aug 16 UTC
New game
Players wanted for two-day phase classic game.
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BusDespres (182 D)
19 Aug 16 UTC
Live game anyone???
bumpppppppppppppp
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kasimax (243 D)
15 Aug 16 UTC
laptop advice
i'm looking for a cheap laptop. price is the main factor. windows os would be nice, ssd is preferable (i have an external hard drive), and i have no clue about the rest. do i even need 4gb ram / a good video card / etc when i won't be doing anything but watching videos and using office?

help is appreciated!
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ND (879 D)
27 Jul 16 UTC
Demexit
Are the Democrats done?
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/26/demexit-sanders-delegates-walk-convention-protest/
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flash2015 (1447 D(G))
12 Aug 16 UTC
How Is Your Country Chosen In Each Game?
I am asking because I have been assigned Austria, Italy, Italy, Austria in the last four games (after seven games I still haven't had the chance to play France, Russia or Turkey yet). Is it supposed to be random?
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ChippeRock (2554 D)
15 Aug 16 UTC
7 Game Series.
Details below.
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JEccles (421 D)
16 Aug 16 UTC
Fleet Support
A question about St. Pete. (See below)
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
14 Jul 16 UTC
Play gunboat with me pls
Details below.
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Roadhog (214 D(G))
15 Aug 16 UTC
What is Rulebook press?
What is rulebook press?
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gramilaj (100 D)
15 Aug 16 UTC
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Returning Gunboat
Hey, I'm mostly a FTF player who got their start on this site a few years ago. Anyone good want to gunboat? 1 day turns.

gameID=181994
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peterlund (1310 D(G))
09 Aug 16 UTC
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Trump - National security risk
"50 G.O.P. Officials Warn Donald Trump Would Put Nation’s Security ‘at Risk’"
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/09/us/politics/national-security-gop-donald-trump.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0&referer=https://t.co/QglcBt9uog
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
11 Aug 16 UTC
Sooooo... Reagan?
Randomizer (722 D)
11 Aug 16 UTC
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Clint Eastwood's a bit too old, but as a former mayor and strong on law and order he could have had a good chance.
BohemianRapCity (95 D)
12 Aug 16 UTC
https://www.johnsonweld.com/debate
BohemianRapCity (95 D)
12 Aug 16 UTC
What I'd like to see ^
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
12 Aug 16 UTC
Pretty sure the rules for getting onto the main debate stage are very clear and neither third party candidate makes the cut right now.
BohemianRapCity (95 D)
12 Aug 16 UTC
Yeah. It's 15%, but it is so so very close. I'd rather watch 3 of the candidates talk about what matters than the mudslinging fests we are probably going to get with only 2
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
12 Aug 16 UTC
Al Gore was so so very close. Johnson's not so so very close. He's around halfway there.
Levelhead (1419 D(G))
12 Aug 16 UTC
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Who is this idiot loud-mouthed "ND" troll?? Go crawl back under your rock.
JamesYanik (548 D)
12 Aug 16 UTC
Sarcasm? Woooowwww I didn't see that coming on a debate in this forum. But seriously, the inner details of the email scandal are actually quite intriguing. I've found a few articles on the effects it's had directly between intelligence agencies and the Democratic party, and frankly I'm not that surprised that many higher ups are pointing towards Trump.

http://www.latlmes.com/nation/details-on-clinton-email-scandal-emerge-1

what really bothers me is how easy it was to fool so many people, it barely took any effort at all. I mean, you're basically YELLING AT THEM that you're messing with them but it just goes ignored.
Levelhead (1419 D(G))
12 Aug 16 UTC
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If the e-mail "scandal" were so bad, and if Clnton was an intolerable security risk to the country, the FBI would have indicted her. They didn't. End of story, move on. Same with Bengazi. Argumentation such as "don't bother me with the facts, 'Bengazi E-mail, there must be something there' are NOT persuasive.
Levelhead (1419 D(G))
12 Aug 16 UTC
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@MajorMitchell: we've had slicker and smarter Trumps before. How about Nixon and W? (actually no one is less smart than Trump. This guy was always a petty hack real estate crook who inherited daddy's money and was one of the first people to be indicted for rasist housing rental practices.)
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
12 Aug 16 UTC
Why move on? There is legitimate criticism against Hillary Clinton and there's no reason to just move on and sweep it under the rug. It's a big fucking deal that the lady that's about to be briefed on more classified intel than most people in the United States government has been proven on multiple occasions to be reckless and careless when handling said material to the point that there was an FBI investigation in the first place. Even more, the FBI said pretty plainly that Hillary was really fucking close to getting indicted.

"In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here. [...] To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now."

So she didn't do it intentionally, she's not a freaking traitor. That's great. But in circumstances like these, anyone not named Hillary Clinton would probably have received some pretty massive sanctions, enough that a run at the White House would have gone up in smoke. Director Comey said that himself.

All of you establishment Democrats that support the party no matter what they say (even if they, oh, I don't know, throw a primary election, but that would never happen) should be happy that people are pointing out legitimate things to be critical of about Clinton. Remember Obama? What were the criticisms he faced? The two I remember were that he was too liberal, which has proven to be utterly false, and that he was born in fucking Kenya, which 72% of registered Republicans still fucking believe. Hillary has been asked to release speech transcripts because there is legitimate concern that she's already been purchased by Wall Street. Obama was asked to release his birth certificate because some nativist Bundy sympathizers think that every black man is born outside the United States. Clinton has faced questions about why, as Secretary of State, she pandered to the influences of the Pentagon and supported war on so many occasions, even when war didn't end up happening. Obama has faced questions about whether he is Christian or Muslim. There's a difference. Hillary has some actual shit on her.
peterlund (1310 D(G))
12 Aug 16 UTC
"Hillary has been asked to release speech transcripts"

@Bo. I am missing Trump's tax returns quite badly now!
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
12 Aug 16 UTC
Don't care about Trump's tax returns. Nobody even reads them, all you idiots do is read an article on some overtly biased site that spins it how they want to. He's the worst candidate in American history and that isn't enough to stop him from winning a primary, so why do you think his tax returns will do anything other than give the media something to give him free air time with?
krellin (80 DX)
12 Aug 16 UTC
HIllarious to read Bo's rants. Hillariouser still to read Bo accuse others of being biased, when his rants are so full of bias it isn't even funny.

If you listen to Bo, nobody ever had (has) legitimate criticism against Obama, that it was all "Do you really eat fried chicken with antibiotics?!?!" No, shithead, the critiism of Obama regarding POLICY and the OUTCOMES OF HIS POLICY have existed for his entire Presidency. The concerns over what his policies WOULD BE before he became President were myriad....but little shit head-in-the-sand assholes like you STILL refuse to acknowledge the legitimate criticisms...and yet you are going to fucking lecture other people on not critiquing people carefully enough??


LOL

YOu are as much of, if not more of a, dumbass as ever, aren't you? Iwould have thought that whole college thing would have given you better critical thinking skills by now...or at least the ability to be a little more honest in your debate.

lol
Randomizer (722 D)
12 Aug 16 UTC
While the Republicans are so "concerned" about possible leaked information for Clinton's private server, it was that long ago under Bush/Cheney that actual information was deliberately leaked to the press about Palme's work for the CIA that harmed CIA assets as White House revenge. Republicans have a long history of leaking information and illegal actions for personal gain as opposed to what Clinton has been accused of doing.

What's worse is the documented law breaking by Trump and his business. Instead of an imperial presidency we could see worse.
krellin (80 DX)
12 Aug 16 UTC
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OBama criticisms...a few off the top of my head:
Doubled the national debt, essentially by holding the fucking cowardly Republicans hostage with his lapdog media. The result of that doubled debt -- now at $20 fucing TRILLION...

....Worst economic recovery since the 50's or some shit like that
....Something like 43 MILLION people on some form of government assistance
....Stagnation is real wage growth
....Labor NON-Participation rate higher than it has been in decades, since like the 50's or some stupid shit...i.e. people have been out of work for so long in many cases they don't count against the bullshti unemplyoment number anymore
....Failure of leadership in the fight against terrorism...which admitedly he didn't start....but which he inherited and FAILED to prosecute correctly...has led to a massive destabiliszation of the middle east, and the pronounced spread of terrorism globally. Sadly, George Bush himself PREDICTED (LOOK IT UP!!!) that *exactly* what has heppened in the middle east would happen if Iraq was abandoned too soon....Arrogant stupid fuck piece of shit Barrack Never-Met-a-Radical-Islamic-Leader-I-Wouldn't-French-Kiss Obama thought his mere precense on the global stage would bring peace to an eternally-hostile/warlike species....becuase he's an arrogant stupid shit...or he has an alternate agenda which is playing out exactly as he wished....either way, he's a fucking loser
....Health Care has NOT exapnded to cover all Americans as promised...but the quality of care and the cost of care are going in opposite directions....and the COST of care is *astrnomically* increasing, and major health care providers are now aggressively PULLING OUT of providing Obamacare coverage...i.e. Obamacare has been a complete failure in that every promise made in its passing has either not come to pass, or the OPPOSITE has happened....


Nobody gives a fuck where he was born, you spooge-sucking disengenuous piece of shit, Bo...the criticism of OBama are myriad, but little shit lapdogs liek you with your fucking horse-blinders on are too fucking worthless to humanity to have the decency to acknowlege.
krellin (80 DX)
12 Aug 16 UTC
Whew.....I feel much better now.


Oh shit...and then there are the fucking assholes lke Randomizer...:

"Welll...welll.....uhhhh....wellll....REPUBLICANS (who I fucing hate!!!!) did something wrong once, and....well.....Hillary only did what they did (only 100 times worse....) so it's not fair to try to hold her accountable!!! I'm a fucking SHEEP....Bahhhhhh bahhhh bahhhhhhh....."
krellin (80 DX)
12 Aug 16 UTC
No....NOW I feel better.

And yes, I'm sober. Some days you just need vent.

Now who wants to play a game? Or is it time to open up a session of Krellin's Konsulting so I can correct all your mental deficiencies???
peterlund (1310 D(G))
12 Aug 16 UTC
Bo wrote "Don't care about Trump's tax returns. Nobody even reads them"

No neither do I think that we ever will get to see those tax returns. I just think it is good to remind everyone that we have not seen them yet. This is one fact that I expect will make every semi-intelligent voter figure out that there is something really fishy about this shit-head Trump.

Those morons that don't get this, are probably anyhow lost in the Trump wastelands. Hopefully they are not too many of those despite all the deficiencies of the American school system.
Levelhead (1419 D(G))
12 Aug 16 UTC
What is the American fascist fetish with "bias"? Everybody has some bias. It's called having a point of view.
principians (881 D)
12 Aug 16 UTC
^it's part of that negationistic rhetoric according to which, scientific data and studies are that prove their ignorant inventions wrong, are all "biesed"
principians (881 D)
12 Aug 16 UTC
*"biased"
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
12 Aug 16 UTC
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"Doubled the national debt"

The federal debt has doubled but federal spending is just 4.8% higher than it was prior to 2009. Obama added at most $200 billion to the fiscal spending in 2009. The measures that exacerbated the debt were initiated before he took office.

http://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/2012/06/Federal_Spending_Bush_Vs_Obama.png

http://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/2012/06/Federal_Spending_and_Receipts_GDP.png

Bush signed his massive spending bill on his way out of the White House in late September of 2008, which not only massively increased the Pentagon budget to a historical record but also increased health care funding and aid for both automakers and disaster victims. He also signed off on a $700 billion spending bill, which Obama reduced to $475 billion.

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-110hr2638enr/pdf/BILLS-110hr2638enr.pdf

The spending amount that Obama inherited was so fuckin high that even slight increases exacerbate an already record-spending level. Sure, he could have cut Bush at the knees, which he did in plenty of other areas, but that wasn't smart and he didn't do it.

"Worst economic recovery since the 50's or some shit like that"

What does that even mean? You seem to admit you don't even know. Where'd you get this from? Seems to me that economic stagnancy is a pretty common thing in this country, but unless you've got an understanding of what you're trying to say, I'm not sure I've got any reason to respond.

"Something like 43 MILLION people on some form of government assistance"

14.7 million people were added to food stamp rolls under Bush from 2001-2009. So far, Obama's number is 13.4 million and the number added on to that each quarter is currently declining.

"Labor NON-Participation rate higher than it has been in decades"

The participation rate (not non-participation rate) is above 60%. It's still a little lower than when he took office. Stats by the Bureau of Labor Statistics show that this is outside of Obama's control and particularly point to the fact that 3% of people not either employed or currently working for work said they couldn't find or don't want a job. 44% cited retirement, 19% cited some sort of disability, 18% said they were in school, and 15% said that they were stay-at-home parents. Many of these claims may well be total bullshit, but Obama can't control bullshit.

I don't know how high it was in the post-Depression era. If you want to claim that, then find it.

http://www.bls.gov/opub/btn/volume-4/people-who-are-not-in-the-labor-force-why-arent-they-working.htm

"people have been out of work for so long in many cases they don't count against the bullshti unemplyoment number anymore"

I don't know of any numbers to check for this since things that don't count are probably, well, not counted. The unemployment rate as it is counted is down to 5% and I agree with you that that's not the real unemployment rate, but it's still 2.8% lower than it was in January 2009. The historical median for this number is just above 5% since the 1950s.

"Failure of leadership in the fight against terrorism"

Besides taking down bin Laden, which wasn't all Obama, there's some truth to this. At the same time, I'm not sure why it should be the United States' sole problem to "fight against terrorism." Given that the huge majority of terrorism stems from the Middle East, Obama has done a decent job at getting Middle Eastern nations involved. His drone strike campaign is a violation of human rights and needs to be completely obliterated. Around 90% of drone strike fatalities are potentially innocent civilians, which the military prefers to call "militants" simply because they are within a certain vicinity of a terror suspect. That kind of brash disregard for our own criminal court motto of "innocent until proven guilty" will hopefully be a major stain on Obama's record. Moreover, these drone strikes create terrorists. It's like a breeding program.

Still, a multilateral approach to combatting terrorism is the best approach. The US isn't the only country affected and shouldn't be the only one fighting. The coalition of over 30 countries fighting ISIS is a good beginning and cooperation - at times - with Russia to do the same is a helpful step in the right direction. Shifting the military out of the Middle East and toward China, where the US has far, far more to lose in terms of international influence than they do in the Middle East, is not a bad idea but I don't like the idea of handing off opportunities for a new, bigger war to either Clinton or Trump(/Pence, since he'd be doing all the grunt work). I doubt anyone else does either.

"but which he inherited and FAILED to prosecute correctly"

Not sure if you mean execute, but if you mean prosecute, there's a reason that Eric Holder isn't the AG anymore.

"Sadly, George Bush himself PREDICTED (LOOK IT UP!!!) that *exactly* what has heppened in the middle east would happen if Iraq was abandoned too soon"

What's there to do in Iraq? The Iraqis don't want us there. What are we supposed to do? Seems like a terrible idea to me to sit there and create a factional government in the nation that, as you say, we've spent the last decade-plus destabilizing. Not saying it went perfectly by any means, but we wore out our welcome.

"or he has an alternate agenda which is playing out exactly as he wished"

Sounds like something Trump would say.

"Health Care has NOT exapnded to cover all Americans as promised"

The CDC said in 2008 that 43.8 million people were uninsured in 2008. That number is now around 28 million.

"but the quality of care and the cost of care are going in opposite directions"

This will likely remain the case unless single-payer healthcare *or* totally laissez-faire healthcare is implemented. I know which one works better for more people. Do you?

"and the COST of care is *astrnomically* increasing"

Yes, which is where insurance is useful. Insurance companies and healthcare providers negotiate a hospital bill down miraculously. They don't pay that million dollars.

As for the cost of medicine, that's a huge issue. Obama hasn't tackled it and neither will the candidate he endorsed. There is a rule in place that Medicare cannot negotiate drug prices with big pharma. Big pharma charges a little bit more than necessary for life-saving medication. Coincidence?

"Obamacare has been a complete failure in that every promise made in its passing has either not come to pass, or the OPPOSITE has happened"

If you say so.

"Nobody gives a fuck where he was born, you spooge-sucking disengenuous piece of shit, Bo"

Looks like my numbers were a little off, but...

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2011/02/15/poll_most_republicans_doubt_obama_s_citizenship_as_birtherism_becomes_a_screen_for_ideology.html

http://www.salon.com/2015/09/14/a_staggering_number_of_republicans_believe_president_obama_is_a_muslim/

…people clearly give a fuck where he was born, you regularly-word-misspelling-crazy-psycho, krellin.
Levelhead (1419 D(G))
12 Aug 16 UTC
He's just angry and frustrated and wants you to be too.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
12 Aug 16 UTC
The Trump campaign, regarding assassinating Hillary Clinton:

"He doesn’t want that to happen. And in order to stop that, people that support their Second Amendment rights need to come together and get out there and stop Hillary Clinton from winning in November."

Sooooo he only wants to encourage her assassination if he loses.
Fluminator (1500 D)
12 Aug 16 UTC
Trump vs. Hillary debates are so annoying because on both ends you have someone arguing for a scum of the earth.
principians (881 D)
13 Aug 16 UTC
both are are a setback:

One is going back to 90's USA hawks.
The other goes to Ku Klux Klan and apartheid.
leon1122 (190 D)
13 Aug 16 UTC
The worst thing about Killary isn't even her emails. She has released murderers from prison and had private investigators track the women that Bill raped. America would become a totalitarian state under her.

"One is going back to 90's USA hawks.
The other goes to Ku Klux Klan and apartheid."

I'm pretty sure both of those describe Killary.
ND (879 D)
13 Aug 16 UTC
Do you all think I will be on Hillary's kill list if I don't support her?

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