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25 Jan 16 UTC

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Seeking player for Argentina in UN roleplaying game!!

You want a different dip? You like the diplomatic part of diplomacy? Argentina's president is sleeping, and if he/she doesn't wake up there'll be a spot open. Then maybe this game is or you. The main thing is to be active in he global forum in a very slow world game.

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JDip on Windows 10

I tried to install JDip the other day but I couldn't get it to work on Windows 10. It used to work on Windows 7 I think (unless I am thinking of XP).
Anybody had any luck getting JDip to work on Windows 10?

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2016 World Diplomacy Championship

The 2016 World Diplomacy Championship at Weasel Moot X kicks off exactly five months from today, and we in Chicago can’t wait.

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vDiplomacy Features

I have just started playing Diplomacy at vDiplomacy, and I must say I have been pleasantly surprised by a number of vDiplomacy innovations that don't appear to be available on webdiplomacy. Are there plans to introduce some of the same features here?

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Best Musical Act Tournament Redux

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20 Jan 16 UTC

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How do I get webdip points @ Zultar and Point peoples

I keep playing and losing. Can I get like 300

since this is sort of like texas holdem anyway? the points dont matter...

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CommanderByron (801 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

Here is my problem with everything you just said.
A) webdip points being directly tied to game wins makes for a sort of badge of honor. removing that honor by allowing someone to just pay money for points ruins the atmosphere of diplomacy.

B) If the admins adopted this method and it was successful; i am talking enough money to pay a part-time developer (maybe ATC); and then it falls off the following quarter and the site has an outstanding bill with said developer they may be forced to demand payments to cover their debts. Keep in mind I am not implying our admins couldn't handle the responsibility but I am implying that once the site has enough money to make huge changes they likely will; and once they have bills and debts they will be forced to think economically about the sites continued governance.

CommanderByron (801 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

The issue here is that having the ability to buy more points could lead to the site becoming pay to play out of necessity. I do however like your one suggestion about having players be able to pay the bill for another member (req 3). This I think could help grow the site community by having established players invite friends and family into diplomacy and buy their way into high stakes games (which by virtue are more fun and entertaining) possibly encouraging their continued use of the site.

CommanderByron (801 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

I think a signifigantly better option than paying to play is to allow members to trade RR for points. example: 1 percent of RR = 100 webdip points. in theory a player could trade all their RR in for 10000

. but with our RR system that would be stupid. This would have its trade offs. If you keep your RR and have low points you have more options for games (as your RR is high) but you are limited in how mnay games and the size of the pot. If you trade RR for points then you have less options for games (as your RR is low) but you have nearly an unlimited betting ability.

Jamiet99uk (808 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

@ brainbomb:

"Webdip Feature Request 4: We set up a game for all the players with 0

or less than 5 on webdip and the winner gets 25,000 webdiplomacy points."

This would involve hundreds of players, if not thousands. There is no variant which features hundreds of players, to my knowledge.

Lethologica (203 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

RR gates for reliability. Points, apart from being a status symbol, gate for experience with a minimum of skill. I guess I'm just not seeing all the open games with huge pots that low-point players have any business joining? Points for donation isn't an awful idea, though.

Lethologica (203 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

Also, I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't trade RR for any amount of points.

Hellenic Riot (1626 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

Pay to Play is not happening here.

bo_sox48 (5202 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

It couldn't legally happen.

Hellenic Riot (1626 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

Well, some sites don't pay close attention to what's technically "legal"...

Jamiet99uk (808 )
20 Jan 16 UTC
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"I keep playing and losing."

Stop losing then. Simples.

bo_sox48 (5202 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

As far as I'm aware, we do, and that's what matters here.

CommanderByron (801 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

I mean I proposed the RR for points thing as an alternative for paid points. I personally think our current system is extremely intuitive and excellent.

SkiingCougar (1581 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

Do ou not get boosted back to 100 once you reach below a certain point?

Jamiet99uk (808 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

@ SkiingCougar -yes but you only get the "boost" once games end. While points are still "in play" they are not reimbursed.

SkiingCougar (1581 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

Thats fine, just lose if yur too low on coins. Theres some advice brainbomb :)

Jamiet99uk (808 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

No, Cougar - not when *you* are defeated - when the game ends.

SkiingCougar (1581 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

Oh thats a pain what happens if you were in a game like the 2012 tournament? Do you reckon it would be an easy change for mods to do?

Jamiet99uk (808 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

I do not suppose that any of the players in the 2012 World Cup Finals game have 0

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SkiingCougar (1581 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

Yea but it would still be a pain if your game went pn for ages and you couldnt play anymore until it ended

jmo1121109 (3812 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

That's how it works though, incentive not to lose :)

ishirkmywork (1401 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

I believe it is a rather just system. Also -- i think there is a direct correlation between poor play and joining too many games at once....NMRs, bad strategy, and simply not caring follow.

Jeff Kuta (2066 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

You could also, like, not spend all your points so you don't fiend after a live game you can't pay for.

brainbomb (290 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

Keep in mind this post was part satire.

Points in play: 230 D I have plenty of chances to still draw some of my games I am in. if not, wheyhey thats how it goes. In the meantime I can join any CD games for free too thanks to new policies, and I have and will.

I am serious about monthly points giveaways or paying for peoples entry into games, or even gifting people points.

brainbomb (290 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

There should be a webdip user of the month that the mods choose and give points too for making this a fun community, insightful forum posts, or organizing clubs and regular live games. Like some people here do more to make this site fun than others. Why not reward that with 25

? or 15

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Jamiet99uk (808 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

Do you think you would win it?

brainbomb (290 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

For those of you talking about webdip points as if they matter, keep in mind the upper 1% of points holders on this site (besides Czech) play rarely. You almost never see high stakes games between them, nor see any of them in tournaments.

Lets be real the points are "pointless".

Splitdiplomat has 80,000

, thats amazing, now he hardly ever plays?

What people really care most about if we are being honest is their GR. So I would propose
Feature Request 5: Players Ghost ratings appear next to their name instead of webdip points. (Since points are in no way indicative of regular activity and quality wins)

brainbomb (290 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

jamiet, for example, you have Total points: 174 D
I technically have more points than you but all mine are in play. Do you honestly think I am better at diplomacy than you?

Points are not an accurate representation of much of anything except hoarding on this site. I use all my points, and play every day on here. I feel that since the points are pointless and GR is what people actually measure themself by...we ought to consider just giving out tons of points. Inflation of webdip points is categorically the dumbest concern I have ever heard (didnt zultar just give out like... 1000

to Chaqa for christmas or something?)

Lethologica (203 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

I don't think you have the greatest visibility on correlations between points and user activity, bb (. Anyone who cares about GR knows where to look it up. And when considering feature requests like 'webdip user of the month' awards with trivial point handouts to single players, think about input:output and opportunity cost.

brainbomb (290 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

At the risk of sounding like homeless gus, I am asking the mods to give me 500 webdip points, a stimulus package, which I will use to create a series of 5 100 point pot, fun high stakes games as part of the new live game club yoyo has started. If given this Loan of webdip points I pledge after I win 2 of the 5 games I will repay these webdip points back to the community with interest.

Jamiet99uk (808 )
20 Jan 16 UTC

Muted.

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23 Jan 16 UTC

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Points in play calculation

All,

I have read the FAQ, but it seems to state that your points in play are the sum of point that you *bet*. Mine seem to exceed that, but may be correct if they are the "current value" rather than the "bet." I could do some tedious counting, but I imagine that most of the people here know, so please pardon the "lazy ask" of someone new to this site, but a long-term Dip player.

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24 Jan 16 UTC

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Anyone here tried Subterfuge?

Its an iOS/Droid game similar to Neptune's Pride somewhat. Slow Realtime where movement takes hours to days to resolve, no RNG, and based on the Diplomacy tradition of deception and alliances. The key difference to Pride is a toroidal map and a different win condition. Anyone else given it a go?

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23 Jan 16 UTC

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Snowpocalypse Redux

How's life south of the Masspike? Only a dusting here in Boston but looks like NYC and DC are getting nailed.

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22 Jan 16 UTC

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I just got back from Azerbaijian

And boy are my _____________ Tired.

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22 Jan 16 UTC

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Simple rule question I'm unsure of.

Country 1: A sup B move C; B move C;
Country 2: C sup D move A; D move A;
My thinking is everyone bounces because both supports are broken. Is that right?

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23 Jan 16 UTC

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Not a Live Game Thread

This thread is not intended to promote any particular game! Please discuss!

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23 Jan 16 UTC

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Press Celtic Britain Game?

Anyone up for a FP Live Celtic Britain Game tonight on VDip?

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22 Jan 16 UTC

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When Does A Draw Occur?

When does a draw occur? As soon as all players vote for draw...or when all players have voted for draw and the next turn is adjudicated? I ask because I am in a game where the draw votes are hidden.

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22 Jan 16 UTC

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How to join

Dear Diplomaten,
I´m form Germany and I am wondering about why by many games I can look at but not join them. By games with a Password I understood but not by the others. Ist it because im unknown on this side, or why. Thanks for an Information. BR Gocki

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20 Jan 16 UTC

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Sarah Fucking Palin

http://newsthump.com/2016/01/20/raving-lunatic-receives-republican-endorsement-from-pouting-simpleton/

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22 Jan 16 UTC

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RL Diplomacy Runde in Hamburg morgen

Does anyone here live around Hamburg and would like to play a live round of Diplomacy? We have the location and six people, but the seventh jumped off today :/

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22 Jan 16 UTC

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Sum-of-Squares

I can't find the descriptor for Sum-of-Squares Scoring. Could someone link to it or describe it here? Thanks.

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22 Jan 16 UTC

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Question about centers

If a nation has two territories, one with a center and one without, and they lose the one with the center, are they defeated? or do they get more chances to gain it back?

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21 Jan 16 UTC

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Rules question I couldn't find on FAQ.

I know support is cut when the supporting unit is dislodged, but what would happen in the following scenario:
Country 1: A->D; B Support A->D
Country 2: C->B; D Support C->B

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My suggestion for a major addition to the game mechanics - something to reflect upon.

What if the game had a concept o fortification?

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20 Jan 16 UTC

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Spectate?

I'm sorry I am new here. When I click on a game to spectate it have i joined the game? Or is there another step I have to do?

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20 Jan 16 UTC

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spectating games

Is there a way to see the global chat in a game your not in? it wouldn't make it so that you could tell someone something they wouldn't have known otherwise like showing private messages would do. I'm just wondering if there is a specific reason why you can't.

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21 Jan 16 UTC

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Removing from game?

I joined a special game, but it quickly lost any sort of extra rules. I wouldn't mind, but it is a 10 day phase world map. Is it possible for a mod to remove me without taking a hit to my record?

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21 Jan 16 UTC

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Anyone have a WSJ acccount?

If so, could you get this whole article and post it here?

http://www.wsj.com/articles/trouble-brews-for-imported-beers-madein-america-1435188835

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20 Jan 16 UTC

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Curiosity.

Mods can cancel games but can mods force draw? for example 3 players have played for weeks and a one player breaks a site rule implying the game should be cancelled but if the 2 remaining players agree to draw then can the mods force draw?

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SRG: On the Offensive

I had an idea for an SRG, and with unraked games I think it's time to try it out.

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Daily Bible Verses

"You have the words that lead to eternal life." This thread includes selected excerpts from the Bible.

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23 Dec 15 UTC
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Major site scoring announcement!

See inside

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Anyone else follow BTC?

https://medium.com/@octskyward/the-resolution-of-the-bitcoin-experiment-dabb30201f7#.o1wuxqbqg

Very interesting article, been watching the XT/blocksize debacle for some time now.

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