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orathaic (1009 D(B))
23 Oct 15 UTC
Debate tactics?
Dear American voters:
What do you think of the following, awesome idea or waste of tine?

http://www.clearerthinking.org/#!the-2016-presidential-debates--subtitled/wt7g0
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kasimax (243 D)
21 Oct 15 UTC
kasimax gunboat series
i'm not good, play with me.

3 games, 10 point buy-in each, anonymous, hdv, no in-game messaging, 48 hour phases, rr 95 or higher.
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Eadan (454 D)
23 Oct 15 UTC
Double Post Workaround
What is the workaround to bypass the double (or triple) posting of the same message when sending private messages?
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ali2542 (752 D(B))
17 Oct 15 UTC
Where the hell do i donate?!
Why is it so hard to find the donation button?! I want to pay my dues!
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
30 Sep 15 UTC
Top-rated games
I'm organizing a couple of games for the top players on the site. Details inside.
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Baskineli (100 D(B))
11 Oct 15 UTC
Anybody in for a game?
24-36 hours, WTA, anon, full press, small pot, no NMRs?
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Baskineli (100 D(B))
13 Oct 15 UTC
Israeli citizens are under attack in the last 2 weeks
These are the images we see every day here. I am trying to see how many of you are aware that this is what's going on in Israel right now.

https://www.facebook.com/kikarashabat/videos/1076698952354533/
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principians (881 D)
13 Oct 15 UTC
And if you ask my opinion, I think that one of the biggest injustices is going on against the palestinians, and that Isreali government is a genocide, terrorist one
principians (881 D)
13 Oct 15 UTC
About rockets I've also read by the way. That does not change my opinion.
principians (881 D)
13 Oct 15 UTC
"Have you heard about two Palestinian cousins, 13 and 15, who attacked with a knife a Jewish 13 years old and inflicted grievous wounds?" Yes, I also read about this, and still does not change my opinion. Before proceeding I'd ask you to research how many palestinians have died due to your conflict in the last pair of years
principians (881 D)
13 Oct 15 UTC
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
diplomat61 (223 D)
13 Oct 15 UTC
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There are nearly 2 million people in the Gaza strip who live under difficult conditions, with limited access to work or education. With nothing else to do is it any wonder that they turn to violence?

Whatever the rights and wrongs that led to the current situation the important question is not "who started this?" but "who will end this?".
principians (881 D)
13 Oct 15 UTC
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Finally, "What we see in the last two weeks is an unprecedented call to action from the Palestinian leaders, both in the West Bank and Gaza, to go out and slaughter Jews" I'd appretiate some documentation about this, which leaders? what did say? can you prove it?

@diplomat, I'm afraid Baskinelli's conspiration theories fed by isreali gov. won't end this
Middelfart (1196 D)
13 Oct 15 UTC
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I'm certainly with wjessop on this. Calling someone an Antisemite just because he doesn't support Israel is way out of order. It might be that for some or a majority of the Israeli people Israeli=Jews in general, but that's not the case for the rest of the world.

In DK we threat our jews very well. In fact, no minority get's the media attention when they get stepped on so easily. Not being antisemite here, just pointing out how it is. They are good citizens who try to make DK a even more peaceful place. After the shootings in Cph. the jewish community were in grief with the rest of DK. What did their leaders do? They acted like good danes - not Israelis.
And what did the leader of Israel do - he called the jews from Denmark "home" because DK and Europe were not safe anymore. Goes without saying, we didn't take kindly to such an invitation to our neighbors and friends.

Heres my attempt on a simple explanation of the difference between the three groups of PALESTINIANS you mentioned:
In Israel: Israeli citizen but assimilated by the state as a second degree citizen.
In Palestine: Under threat from Israel, but normally only fight back with rocks, and demonstrations. As they do not belong to any state they are in fact stateless and do not have any real citizen rights.
In Gaza: Locked in by Israel and Egypt. Fights back like David vs Goliath, but here Goliath always "wins" and a hostile episode often ends in a brutal retaliation from Israel. Have no rights what so ever.

The fact that you won't call them Palestinians shows, that you do not acknowledge their right to any part of Palestine. This is a very dangerous form of Zionism which insures that there will only be two possible outcomes of the continuing conflict.
As wjessop have already pointed out, your try to separate the last two weeks from the rest of the history between you and your the Palestinians is an attempt to color the situation in your general direction.

Steephie, I hope you do not fall for such simple propaganda. Cause then you have a lot to learn from this game.

Octavious, hopefully you do not buy the headliner. Israelis are being killed for being Israelis, not for being Jewish. Just as Palestinians are being killed for being Palestinians, not for being Muslims.

It is not religion that is at the base of these problems. It is nationalism. It is no different from what have caused conflict in Yugoslavia, Ukraine and so on.

To answer your original question more directly, Baskineli:
Media awareness in DK right now: New Goverment and it's program>Refugees>National footballteam>Syria>Turkey>Ukraine........ [all other stories] Palestine+Israel relationship.
Simple reason. Israelis have lost much of that special bond with DK by the acts of it military and settlers the last many years. Israel have been the total dominating big brother in the conflict for decades. Danes do not look kindly on the stronger bullying the weak. That's one of the reasons for Israeli horrors not giving any airtime in DK. The distance between DK and Israel have simply grown a lot the last years. Especially after the last major attack on Gaza. Of course, the fact that it has become everyday news ain't helping it. But we used to get news from Israel. Now we don't.

But hey, I doubt that you hear of every part of violence in DK, even when it's brutal and/or systematic.
It's just like we didn't hear much about Turkey until the bombs this weekend. Or that we do not hear much about violence in South America and Latin America.
diplomat61 (223 D)
13 Oct 15 UTC
@principians: sadly, no doubt about that.
diplomat61 (223 D)
13 Oct 15 UTC
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Israel, and her supporters, are always quick to accuse critics of anti-semitism. I do not give a flying fig what sky-friend a person believes in but I recognise ill-treatment when I see it.

European Jews were always looked down on by European elites, Hitler simply took it further than anyone else dared to. In my opinion, creating the state of Israel was not far short of ethnic cleansing. Israel's treatment of Palestinians has eery echoes of the holocaust.
principians (881 D)
13 Oct 15 UTC
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Hitler was a crazy criminal. Let's remember he did not only kill millions of jews, he also killed gypsis, communist, opposers, etc...
KingCyrus (511 D)
13 Oct 15 UTC
Question, does Israel have the right to exist?
principians (881 D)
13 Oct 15 UTC
@KingCyrus Of course it has the right to exist. Has anyone questioned it here?
KingCyrus (511 D)
13 Oct 15 UTC
No, just clarifying.

What is an ideal situation between Israel and Palestine? I realize that this is complicated and that we don't really have much bearing or a chance of actually seeing this come true, but float some ideas.
alaftasy (305 D)
13 Oct 15 UTC
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The attacker will have his family kicked of home then his home demolished or filled with concrete (the new style to prevent rebuild of house).
He knew that before hand, but he still did it. Why?? read history.
alaftasy (305 D)
13 Oct 15 UTC
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Many of those Palestinians blockaded in Gaza used to live in what is now Israel, they were kicked off their homes and stuffed in refugee camps in the desert.
Most of the houses destroyed by Israel in Gaza were not rebuilt because of lack of building materials due to the blockade.

Israelis are making more enemies every day!
wjessop (100 DX)
13 Oct 15 UTC
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It must be very hard for Baskineli to understand why the majority of us regard Israel as an aggressor in this way, considering all of the indoctrination he will have received.
wjessop (100 DX)
13 Oct 15 UTC
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@Cyrus: There's a UN mandate for the Jewish state's right to exist. General Assembly Resolution 181. But this also mandates the right for an Arab Palestinian state to exist.

Israel flagrantly ignores and actively works against the latter part of this resolution.

Indeed, the Israeli government and Zionists are happy to refer to UN resolutions supporting Israel's existence but reject and ignore resolutions that they disagree with, such as the resolutions against further Israeli settlements in the West Bank and the more recent resolution demanding that Israel stop the construction of the Israeli West Bank barrier (i.e., the West Bank Wall).
principians (881 D)
13 Oct 15 UTC
However, and answering both KC and wjessop, either Israel undestands what it's provoking palestinians to act as they act, or it will need to exterminate palestinians, if they don't want more 'palestinian terrorists'. Hope the brilliant israelis at least realize those are the only two possible options
wjessop (100 DX)
13 Oct 15 UTC
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To be honest, I'm quite surprised that Israel isn't doing more to reach out to the Palestinians.

With IS raging through Syria and Iraq; and an Iran on the rise, it seems crazy that the Israelis don't want to finally have peace in their backyard so they can keep their eyes on the more pressing and rising threats to their country's safety.
principians (881 D)
13 Oct 15 UTC
sorry wjessop, I was refering to your first comment (and not disagreeing with it). Your second comment has much truth. I'd like you to clariry the word 'zionist' however.
TrPrado (461 D)
13 Oct 15 UTC
"To be honest, I'm quite surprised that Israel isn't doing more to reach out to the Palestinians." Because Likud, and especially Netanyahu, benefit from the perpetuation of the conflict, and literally any resolution to it, whether it be one-state controlled by a Jewish aristocracy, one-state controlled by the now-majority-Arab republic of Israel, or a two-state peaceful solution, Netanyahu's political power comes into risk, undermining his power in such a way that he would care about avoiding more so than any threat from ISIS or Hamas posed to the Israeli populace.
wjessop (100 DX)
13 Oct 15 UTC
Zionism is Jewish nationalism; Zionists, defined simply, would be any group supporting the unquestionable and unalienable right for a Jewish homeland in Palestine/the Holy Land.

I would add to that definition that Zionists, by definition as being zealots, can be further defined as any group that 'aggressively' supports the Jewish case for a homeland at any cost.
principians (881 D)
13 Oct 15 UTC
according to that definition you can be zionist, and still not support Israeli gov. actions, except for the zealot addendum, I could consider zionist myself, and certainly do not support Israel gov.
BaldOldGuy (74 DX)
13 Oct 15 UTC
Princi- Why do you hate Jews?
wjessop (100 DX)
13 Oct 15 UTC
@principians: Sure, you don't have to be Jewish to be a Zionist.

You don't have to be female to be a feminist.
principians (881 D)
13 Oct 15 UTC
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BOG, excuse me??????????? why do you say I hate jews? wjessop also hates jews according to you? Have I even refered to 'jews' here. The only time I used that word was when saying that Hitler was a crazy criminal....
and, btw, why do you hate muslims?
alaftasy (305 D)
14 Oct 15 UTC
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also in the news:
"30" Palestinians were killed and "1400" wounded since beginning of October in Israel and West Bank
BaldOldGuy (74 DX)
14 Oct 15 UTC
princi- why do you say I hate jews? "that Isreali government is a genocide, terrorist one"
TrPrado (461 D)
14 Oct 15 UTC
The Israeli government is not all Jews. Israelis hate their PM. Their PM is willing to risk their lives and let them die for his political gain.
principians (881 D)
14 Oct 15 UTC
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BOG, Are you serious? Wouldn't you agree that one thing is Israeli gov and other, very different one are jews? I know of many jews that oppose Israeli gov.
Also my statement about israeli gov. does not come from hate. Let me refer to this again:

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

and the defs I'm considering:
genocide: one that kills a people.
terrorist: one that uses terror as strategy.

In my opinion Israeli gov. is deliberately killing (thousands of) palestinians. And uses terror as the strategy to deal with them.

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diplomat61 (223 D)
22 Oct 15 UTC
Is there anybody out there?
The Ancient Mediterranean, Anonymous players, Points-per-supply-center, Hidden draw votes. 20 D, 90%RR, 24 hr turns.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=168912
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seboomafou (267 D)
21 Sep 15 UTC
Toronto Blue Jays and MLB
Just a place to speak about the sudden and hopeful rise of the Toronto Blue Jays. Is anyone else hoping for a revival of 92/93?
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diplomat61 (223 D)
22 Oct 15 UTC
Oh no, not again
Classic game. Anonymous players, Points-per-supply-center, Hidden draw votes. 30 D, 90%RR, 24hr turns.

gameID=168816
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ssorenn (0 DX)
22 Oct 15 UTC
Who wants some.......
WTA 36 hour 30-100 bet. Classic anon or not.
1.ssorenn
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RAZ000 (272 D(G))
19 Oct 15 UTC
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Dear Canadians, please vote
Hey all,

Just a reminder to my fellow Canadians that today is election day. Please, go vote.
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
20 Oct 15 UTC
Child Labour
Since the forum is a fun place for discourse on politics, society and economy. Here is a real issue that has arisen in my work, which I'd like to discuss.
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MonsieurJavert (214 D)
19 Oct 15 UTC
Moblie App
Would some software developer with extra time on their hands be interested in developing a mobile app for webdip?
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Just_Beta (100 D)
18 Oct 15 UTC
I'm surprised this topic hasn't been discussed yet on the Forums?
ALTERNATE HISTORY! I'm quite a fan of it. I've made a couple of timelines and nations for alternate history. I've even sent some nations to the AlternateHistoryHub (although he hasn't answered ;{). Well I'll let you guys sound of in this thread you opinions, alternate timelines, alternate nations and whatever hoobily-goobily-shoobily stuff
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
17 Oct 15 UTC
YouTube Highlights Series Game 3
We didn't get the game off the ground last night, so we're trying again! If you don't know what these are about, check out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seK0GGDQP_M and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXyq0A-aGzY This is a great chance to get your game reviewed by expert players. Will be making the game soon to start around 8pm EST. Stay tuned!
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
16 Oct 15 UTC
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Made my fist contact today!
KC1AOF if anyone wants to see if they can reach me.
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Benjamin Franklin (712 D(G))
18 Oct 15 UTC
Need players for private full press anon game 24 hr phases
Come join private party.. all the cool people... well, just me and my sons have joined. We are strong competitors and want to play each other legally. Full press, anon. http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=168556
Password =kitty
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Rainbow Candy (127 D)
17 Oct 15 UTC
Ssssshhhhh...
Does anyone play Ancient Med on this site??
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denis (864 D)
11 Oct 15 UTC
London f2f game
Living in London at the moment thinking of playing a couple of f2f games, if anyone lives near and wants to play
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ali2542 (752 D(B))
14 Oct 15 UTC
How many seasons/turns before player removed from game?
How many seasons it takes for a player who's not giving any orders or coming to the board, to be removed from the game and be marked as "Left"?
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yassem (2533 D)
03 Oct 15 UTC
So the Russian intervention in Syria...
Are we seriously not gonna discuss it? I think we should.
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denis (864 D)
17 Oct 15 UTC
LOOK AT THE ENDGAME ON THAT ONE
gameID=168690

gunboat live game too, thats some telepathy right there and luck ofcourse
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denis (864 D)
16 Oct 15 UTC
how many live games have you managed to play simultaneously?
just a thought
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
16 Oct 15 UTC
YouTube Highlights Series Game 3
Hey everyone! Want to make it to a highlight video and the big leagues! Join our gunboat game starting in 1 hour that will be featured on the webDiplomacy Youtube channel.
gameID=168674; PW: Contact
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
13 Oct 15 UTC
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Question - Do airline companies pay for maintaining contact with ground stations
Hey Everyone,
I have a question: do airliners operating international flights pay money to the ground stations they stay in contact with during their flight? Is it a lot?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
15 Oct 15 UTC
Wikileaks on the Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement
Apparently one chapter of the final agreement was leaked recently.
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
15 Oct 15 UTC
Diplomacy openings
Who was it that was asking about an openings compendium? TrPrado?

Anyway, https://diplomacyopenings.wordpress.com/
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Join a random game thread
Hey guys, join my game for some Fall of America!

gameID=168639
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
15 Oct 15 UTC
Question Game Victory
I have won the Question game:
viewthread=1292981

We should commemorate this with a live game of Diplomacy soon.
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