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The Czech (39715

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Moderator Please check mail

Sent a msg a while ago.

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Army movements.

Novice player. Just wanted to double check. Can an army move from North africa to Spain? I'm thinking NO but would love confrimation before I set my moves. Thanks!

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What if the internet shut down on holidays?

A random 4th of July thought. Why do servers still run on holidays? Pretty much all businesses are closed.

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I work on call. Exiting Gunboat gracefully

How does one exit a gunboat game most gracefully?
Can one find a replacement player to minimize game disruption?

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ODC Subs

Come one, come all. Prove your worth against players from across the Internet. Up to two 36 hour phase press games, plus more if you win. PM me for more details.

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On The Forum

As some of you may know, I have been a strong proponent of a one forum system. After some careful reflection, though, I've decided separate forums are better. I have a proposal that would allow for the separation of topics without the segregation of the community that many fear. I realize this is a sensitive topic, so I would appreciate serious criticism only. I have taken the liberty of making a mock-up of my proposed forum here: http://i.imgur.com/rgcdsO2.png

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Mafia X Discussion (not sign up)

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The dead 2.0

Open with 'box rain'

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03 Jul 15 UTC
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1v1 Ladder tournament open to new players

Practice your tactics in a 1v1 tournament.
Visit the thread here:
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/forum.php?threadID=60990#60990

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04 Jul 15 UTC

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Has Diplomacy inspired actual diplomats?

Just curious.

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Umpires

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/umpire-andy-fletcher-attempts-to-charge-mound-against-jon-lester-185755930.html

If you are in the "umpires can do no wrong, players are just out of their minds" crowd, have you changed your mind yet? This is everything wrong with umpires in one short clip.

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The Mountain Game 2 has ended

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=159522

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thorfi (1023 )
06 Jun 15 UTC

? I don't see anyone implying anyone has cheated. But seriously, what's not to understand about Lusthog? No voting draw unless units are lined up along an actual stalemate line.

Which means it's *impossible* to force a unit through. Not "unlikely", not "you'd have to be very lucky to break through", actually impossible according to game mechanics, given a certain set of orders on both sides.

If there's not a stalemate line, there's not a stalemate line. Nobody is forced to eliminate themselves, at all. If you want to not be eliminated, be on the stalemate line.

kasimax (243 )
06 Jun 15 UTC

ssorenn, chumbles, nobody is accusing you of cheating. what the lusthog rules try to prevent is that once three powers are at, say 8 centers each, that they immediately take out the others and then draw.

thorfi (1023 )
06 Jun 15 UTC

And looking at that map, I'm with 2WL, that could easily be a French solo sitting right there, and I'm not even certain Russia and Germany could definitely prevent it.

ssorenn (0 )
06 Jun 15 UTC

no one asked you----thats why with press there are things that you are unaware of

goldfinger0303 (3157 )
06 Jun 15 UTC
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I am not the creator of the lusthog variant, so those familiar with it should let me know if I'm interpreting this wrong. Basically I lumped Germany with Russia and saw if France could take any centers. He could. Then I lumped Germany with France and saw I'd France could take any centers. He could. If in either of these situations France couldn't gain anything, I would be OK with a draw.

For those who play lusthog, is this not how the rules should be interpreted?

ssorenn (0 )
06 Jun 15 UTC

so, in this instance either Germany has to commit suicide or let France win....what if the German abstains from helping either....

France cant take Trieste without German help

dyager_nh (619 )
06 Jun 15 UTC
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I think they are implying Germany would HAVE to make a piss poor move like let France into Trieste or move there himself which is absurd.

To expect one country to work with another against his own SCs interest seems too literal an interpretation. If Venice was owned by a French army then I 100% agree.

dyager_nh (619 )
06 Jun 15 UTC
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There was a stalemate line provided Germany decides he wants to hold it which it seems he did.

Valis2501 (2850 )
06 Jun 15 UTC

the game should not have ended. Dont join games that you don't understand or don't want to play. It was pointed out by multiple people including the Tournament Director. Pretty disgraceful is an understatement.

ssorenn (0 )
06 Jun 15 UTC

No one asked Valis either. :))

goldfinger0303 (3157 )
06 Jun 15 UTC
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I think you're all missing the point. The burden for this doesn't fall on Germany, but France. No, Germany should not have to forfeit his own SC's o break a stalemate. But had France stabbed Germany, the solo was his.

ckroberts (3548 )
06 Jun 15 UTC

I am on my phone so I can't look carefully and might be wrong, but I don't think I could have stabbed Germany and won. I don't think I could have held Sweden and Denmark, which would have gone disown, which means Russian victory. There was definitely not a stalemate around Trieste though, which is what I misread.

ssorenn (0 )
06 Jun 15 UTC

If shoulda coulda woulda

ckroberts (3548 )
06 Jun 15 UTC

Stupid swype. Gone Russian, and then that's a Russian victory.

chluke (12292 )
07 Jun 15 UTC

Still too busy with the leagues, so taking myself off the list. The current list for game 3:

1.ckroberts
2.Chumbles
3.ssorenn
4.StackelbergFollower
5.Steingrim
6.trip
7.

The waiting list:
TrPrado*
aborinius*
abgemacht*
phil_a_s*
TS krellin**
Jeff Kuta * (next game starting after August 8th)

*Cannot play in the next game
** Cannot play in the next two games

Deinodon (379 )
07 Jun 15 UTC

Soooo... I could be reading this wrong, but I can just copy and paste that list with my name on it?

trip (696 )
07 Jun 15 UTC

Its going to be a bit before I get some points back.

thorfi (1023 )
07 Jun 15 UTC

+1 goldfinger. German SCs open for the taking does not a stalemate line make. The Italian region and Albania are eminently crackable by France whilst also locking down the North.

Ssorenn: *shrug* Yes, nobody asked me. I'm just chiming in because I'm nosy. Press has nothing to do with it. A stalemate line is a stalemate line based on unit positions and orders alone. That board is not aligned along a stalemate line. That's all there is to it.

Wusti (725 )
07 Jun 15 UTC

I'll jump in if there's a spot

Wusti (725 )
07 Jun 15 UTC

1.ckroberts
2.Chumbles
3.ssorenn
4.StackelbergFollower
5.Steingrim
6.trip
7. Wusti

The waiting list:
TrPrado*
aborinius*
abgemacht*
phil_a_s*
TS krellin**
Jeff Kuta * (next game starting after August 8th)

*Cannot play in the next game
** Cannot play in the next two games

Wusti (725 )
07 Jun 15 UTC

:D

trip (696 )
07 Jun 15 UTC

Firstly, could someone please remove me from the roster for the next game. I'll be without points for at least a few more weeks, and I'm mobile today so I can't do it myself.

I created the Lusthog varient more for gunboat than press. The two main reasons were to prevent players from using the draw vote as a way to signal, and to force games to be played to the end, instead of having mid-game draws because no one is in an enviable position.

ckroberts (3548 )
08 Jun 15 UTC

I am traveling for a bit so I cannot respond thoroughly, but, do people think we need to reconsider the rules in the Mountain? Lusthog sounds so good in theory, but it practice it has caused some problems. I don't know what system would best replace it, though, to avoid getting to three-way draws every time.

Also, what is a good punishment for the way game 2 ended? Do we know if it's possible to restart a game?

ssorenn (0 )
08 Jun 15 UTC

this CK guy obviously likes bondage or something, he wants punishment.....i for one dont think the lusthog rules apply well to full press and i also don't think it was that much of a travesty(the last game) the German finally chose not to be on anyone's side and he was the swing vote to solo for either France or myself

goldfinger0303 (3157 )
08 Jun 15 UTC

ssorenn - you must have missed my memo. It was not Germany choosing sides that was preventing the game from drawing. On either side he was on, there were ways to break the stalemate. If he chose no sides at all, there were ways to break the stalemate. So whatever rhetoric you think you're hearing against Germany, please stop hearing it.

ssorenn (0 )
08 Jun 15 UTC

where were the breaks in the line?

goldfinger0303 (3157 )
08 Jun 15 UTC

Rome? Holland?

goldfinger0303 (3157 )
08 Jun 15 UTC

If Germany were truly trying to be a neutral party, there was almost no way he could throw the game to you if France had acted first and decisively enough.

ssorenn (0 )
08 Jun 15 UTC

Germany and i had been talking about that for a year and a half, and what does those two SC net France--15 thats it, and if Germany was pissed enough he could throw the game to me....so i dont agree

goldfinger0303 (3157 )
08 Jun 15 UTC

Now, you can say "whoah now, France would never do that! Because Kiel/Sweden were vulnerable".

Fine. Then Germany is on France's side, and Trieste/Albania were open for the taking. No matter what side you put Germany on, there was no stalemate.

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3rd of July Live Voice-to-Voice Game!

I have Friday off and nothing to do, so let's play some Diplomacy!
Requirements: Headset/Mic and Teamspeak3 (http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=downloads)

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Robot labour?

http://www.scottsantens.com/yes-it-really-is-different-this-time-and-humans-already-need-not-apply

And basic income?

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Greek Bailout Fund

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/greek-bailout-fund/x/11225530#/story

I just bought a bottle of wine. What will your contribution be?

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01 Jul 15 UTC

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Move adjudication question

France: A Paris -> Burgundy supported by Marseilles
Germany: A Burgundy -> Paris supported by Picardy
England: A Brest -> Paris supported by Gascony
What happens in Paris?

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steephie22 (182

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28 Jun 15 UTC

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Director's Cut seems ambiguous to me..

Isn't a movie pretty much always the Director's Cut?

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abgemacht (1076

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03 Jul 15 UTC
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So what's been going on with reddit recently?

One thing after another. Maybe we should send zultar over there to clean things up.

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01 Jul 15 UTC

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In vs. on

See inside.

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01 Jul 15 UTC

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start college tomorrow

Anyone got any tips to share with this noob?

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arborinius (173

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Daily MARX

This thread includes selected excerpts from Karl Marx.

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Site problems

The site is suddenly taking a rather long time to load/refresh for me this evening - does anyone know why that might be/any solution?

I'm in a live game right now and so it's not particularly helpful.

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Live replacement 8-center Italy needed

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=163902

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captainmeme (1723

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02 Jul 15 UTC
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A Diplomacy Scenario - Would you take a risk?

http://i.imgur.com/YlTaZEf.png

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IshmaelGuantanamoIV (100

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02 Jul 15 UTC

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Need Players for quick-phase diplomacy

I'll make the game when I have seven people, but I'd like to know who's up for a game of 15-30 min phases, classic.

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01 Jul 15 UTC

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EOG: King of The Hill special variant game

http://imgur.com/a/kS7uu

How did everyone think that went?

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Mafia IX: the Purge of the Jedi

See inside for details

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28 May 15 UTC

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Lusthog

4 games: 25pts, 36hr, WTA, Quasi-Anon, HDV
Sign up inside...

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steephie22 (182

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01 Jul 15 UTC

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Can you sue someone over a decade after a fatal mistake was made?

Title is pretty self-explanatory again.

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26 Jun 15 UTC

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OBERGEFELL v. HODGES

Landmark case by the SCOTUS grants equal marriage rights.

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