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swampy11 (0 DX)
14 Feb 14 UTC
St. Petersburg
Sorry if this has been answered a thousand times, BUT can you have a unit in both northern and southern StP at the same time?
Thanks
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krellin (80 DX)
14 Feb 14 UTC
V-Day = More Bandwidth
http://gizmodo.com/people-actually-watch-less-porn-on-valentines-day-1523009813

So...uh....yeah....if you're one of the lonely ones tonight, fap away with less lag, I guess....so...uh...that's all...
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oscarjd74 (100 D)
10 Feb 14 UTC
Bible Verses - Not At All Daily
Rejoice.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
11 Feb 14 UTC
Chess Tournament Thread 2
Old one got locked.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hoR6nzgzKiUGk-pdBLRJmHNWUsZO0NYZhd8MdpEUSfI/edit?pli=1
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ccga4 (1831 D(B))
09 Feb 14 UTC
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1 year anniversary game
See inside!
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ssorenn (0 DX)
13 Feb 14 UTC
What is rich?
Rich I believe is a relative term. What do people here consider rich?
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krellin (80 DX)
13 Feb 14 UTC
So, Abou those Bitcoins....
Seems your freedom-loving currency ain't all it's cracked up to be.

http://gizmodo.com/somebody-hacked-into-silk-road-2-and-stole-all-the-bitc-1522447611
I'll try not to giggle too loudly as the prices *plummet*...
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ncng (100 D)
14 Feb 14 UTC
Never played Diplomacy, have board game-help
Had the game for 10 years, never found anyone to play, watched several YouTube videos, like to play and online game.

Thanks-ncng
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ReedW (131 D)
14 Feb 14 UTC
Modern Diplomacy 2
This map looks like it doesn't get enough love. I cordially invite you all to join!

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=135721
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
10 Feb 14 UTC
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Unions
Can anyone explain to me why I'm strongarmed into paying a bunch of highway robbers ~5% of my teaching salary? As far as I can tell, the only thing my union has ever done is prevent me from negotiating my own salary. Thanks for that.
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frenchie29 (185 D)
13 Feb 14 UTC
Country Randomizer
I have been playing here for some time, and I'm a little upset with the way the randomizer works. I have started in 25 games and have not once been chosen to play as Turkey. I have been Turkey once when I joined midgame. I would like to play a game from start to finish as Turkey, but it has yet to happen. Can somebody explain how the algorithms work exactly and why I have yet to be Turkey yet have been Russia now 6 times.
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Randomizer (722 D)
13 Feb 14 UTC
Justin Bieber - Deport or Tax?
Should Justin Bieber be deported back to Canada for public admission of illegal drug use and other crimes or allowed to stay in the US so we can tax him to help with the deficit?
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2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
13 Feb 14 UTC
Candy and Politics
Where do YOU fall?

http://foodspin.deadspin.com/chart-does-your-choice-of-candy-reveal-your-politics-1522123029
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dirge (768 D(B))
11 Feb 14 UTC
Putin's Dilemma
One of many liberal paradox's, I call this one Putin33's Dilemma:

USA must intervene in all humanitarian war disasters (CAR, Syria, S. Sudan, etc.) -- but if USA intervenes in war, the USA is committing war crimes in the act of war itself (Drones kill!).
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
12 Feb 14 UTC
Italy Opening Strategy 2.0
Things are getting interesting.
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SYnapse (0 DX)
13 Feb 14 UTC
Boring
I've been gone 6 months and you're still talking about the same crap.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
12 Feb 14 UTC
Draug did NOT get addicted.
gameID=132439

France was an *idiot*. I brought two fleets down to help him hold the line and he instead decided to take my SCs. Then, when the line was held again, he attacks my fleet and pops it leaving one fewer defenders on the line that was our eventual downfall. Roka, you are a fool!
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President Eden (2750 D)
13 Feb 14 UTC
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roka, you screwed it up when you stabbed for Holland in A1921. The game was clearly going to a 3-way EFR draw, but you stabbed for no discernible gain (failing to grab Holland and blocking what would have been a pivotal convoy to get an extra army on the line). You also got entirely too aggressive in Italy that turn when it was completely unnecessary to hold Italy and win, leaving Marseilles (and eventually, Munich) wide open. You forced Draugnar to play defensively around the Baltic Sea in S22, preventing him from destroying Russia's northern fleet (which he otherwise would have successfully done) and leaving Berlin vulnerable.

Draugnar did screw up during S23 when he didn't move StP to Moscow to cut support; filling Livonia wasn't necessary once Russia's fleet was disbanded. So it's on both of you. But had you not stabbed for no good reason in 1921 and forced Draugnar on the defensive, that situation wouldn't even have occurred.

I'm not even going to touch the bullshit that went down after 1924 because both of you gave up on trying to win the game by then, either failing to support where it was obviously necessary (Draugnar, not defending Naples) or again stabbing your ally for no reason (rokakoma, taking Holland and Kiel).
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
13 Feb 14 UTC
Seriously though guys, why is this even an issue. Roka, Draug is a newer gunboat player and simply didn't understand what you were trying to get across the last few moves. Draug, you're a newer player and didn't understand exactly what Roka was trying to do the last few moves.

Aside from that I was extremely impressed with the game overall and was surprised at how balanced and well played it was. Kudos to everyone involved aside from the hot tempers at the end.
Grazie Napoli ma ne prendi tre a maggio,la coppa e della Fiorentina.
Forza Viola!
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
13 Feb 14 UTC
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Also, everyone knew Draug was new to gunboat. Are you surprised he didn't pick up on all the nuance? Shame on you, rok, for acting like such a shitty sport because a new player wasn't perfect.
Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Feb 14 UTC
I intentionally didn't support hold Naples because he kept fucking taking my SCs. My thoughts became "Fuck France, if he is gonna do this, he doesn't deserve to be in a draw".
Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Feb 14 UTC
1921 you try to stab only to be denied *yet again* by me, I thought that would be your last attempt. But no, you try again and with three units no less, all countered by me. I'm more than willing to prove my tactical and strategic prowess on VDip, one on one. But I proved it here plenty of times - in fact every time you tried to make inroads I denied you.

1922, you don't even try to stop Russia from getting Mar. How fucking stupid are you?

I screwed up in 1923 when I tried to crush Prussia. That was on me.

1924, we had the south locked. I issued support holds in Autumn 24 but you moved. And you stabbed. What the fuck was taking Hol all about?

After that it all went to shit. I couldn't trust you anymore and assumed you were just a moron who thought he could hold off Russia and go for a two way draw.
mapleleaf (0 DX)
13 Feb 14 UTC
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Hoo boy.....

I've just checked out the game link.

roka. You entered a game, KNOWING Draug was involved, and you expect rational gameplay.

Come on.....
AlexNesta (239 D)
13 Feb 14 UTC
Vabbe', Napoli, Viola, nun c'importa piu! Come sta messo il Hajduk quest'anno?
JECE (1248 D)
13 Feb 14 UTC
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abgemacht: "Shame on you, rok, for acting like such a shitty sport because a new player wasn't perfect."

Uh, for the record, Draugnar has made clear he "[wishes he] had [just thrown the game] so [he] could just say 'fuck you'" to rokakoma even after rokakoma posted that he gets "physical symptoms when someone ruins [his] works". You don't have to go into every game (or every forum, for that matter) assuming that your opponents value making you feel like shit over pursing the object of the game/discussion. That he doesn't have much experience with no press games is just Draugnar's excuse for behaving with illogical, sadistic vindictiveness.
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
13 Feb 14 UTC
If you lay down with dogs .......
JECE (1248 D)
13 Feb 14 UTC
"I intentionally didn't support hold Naples because he kept fucking taking my SCs. My thoughts became 'Fuck France, if he is gonna do this, he doesn't deserve to be in a draw'."
There you go; I was right.
mapleleaf (0 DX)
13 Feb 14 UTC
Maybe rokakoma never read the Forum......
JECE (1248 D)
13 Feb 14 UTC
rokakoma: Take a break if you need to. Hours a day, even without the anguish you describe, has pushed many of us into taking long breaks from the website.

In your next games, don't bother with no press games. In the 17 seven-player diplomacy games I have finished, I've only ever been eliminated once: that was a no press game. It's impossible to properly reason with players in no press games. And, yeah, avoid players of the likes of Draugnar if you can for the same reason even in games with press.

Maybe you can dedicate your time to expanding http://webdipquiz.blogspot.com/. I'm sure that after this game you have plenty of material. ;-)
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
13 Feb 14 UTC
Has he gone yet ....... he's so highly strung he would make a Klan member wince !!
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
13 Feb 14 UTC
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Don't cry over Draug, Rokakoma
The truth is he never loved you
All through his mad plays
His poor resistance
He broke his promise
Despite your insistence
Have I said too much?
I would've thrown the game to Russia in the position Draug was in, as roka showed no intent to achieve a draw that had Draug in it, making it impossible to do so. This would've ended the game quicker so I could spend my time on something more productive.
To tell you the exact turn I would've given up is after seeing spring 1922. Where you attempted to do the same completely brain-dead move for a second time in a row.
I disagree there, always ride it out in a gunboat. It takes (or should take) no longer than 30 minutes a phase to deliberate and submit orders. If you find yourself entertaining the idea of throwing the game to someone then stop, step back, grab a beer or whatever, and look at the game again in a few hours when you're calmer. Gamethrowing is always suboptimal if you're looking to win.
oscarjd74 (100 D)
13 Feb 14 UTC
Very entertaining thread this. <eats popcorn>
rokakoma (19138 D)
13 Feb 14 UTC
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So, I must get this off my chest, because I still feel sick of this.

I created this game FOR Dragunar, to show him how a top level gunboat looks like, so instead of FPers trashing gunboaters all the time, one of the most promiment forumers could finally tell them they are wrong on many levels.

I was lucky I got France, so I decided to control the entire game in a way, to keep the balance as long as I can. I attacked England because we had a week Germany at the beginning, so while Italy was doing Lepanto, I kept the balance north. The moment Germany got stronger I changed against him, and cooperated with England, who seemed having an understanding of what’s happening here.

I also started abusing Italy, as he was advancing in Turkey, so I can slow him down. Keeping the balance again, so Draugnar will be impressed hopefully, an see that we don’t hurt each other, we don’t play out of fury, and most of all we do not let anyone get too strong.
Things went very well, in 1914 I put up my draw vote, as we had 6 powers still, everybody with at least 4SCs. I wanted to draw, because a) I wanted to express my respect towards the others, how good they have played b) my humble towards the game itself dictated I finally achieve a 6-way true draw.

I was in love with this particular game, I was amazed by how everyone understood what’s happening, and how careful everyone is, not to screw up the game while they are also trying to win.
My plan was to get Tunis, as 18th SC, and deal with Germany/England later. Sadly Germany played very bad, hence England got strong and my plan went to the trash. But it was for the solo only anyway. I realized around 1918 Germany cannot survive, and we must erase him, so I committed to England, sent my fleets south, and attacked Germany.
Yet my plan was still, to hold Tunis only, because holding Italy is extremely hard. I wanted to play a clean and beautiful game, about which I can write a very positive EoG. As many of you know a gunboat game is like a ballet for me, and this game was the ‘Swan Lake’ among all of my previous games. I usually think about moves all the time, on bus during dining, before sleeping and after waking up. Additionally this game was a passion project of mine, to bring FPers and GBers closer on this website, improve the mood and the community, and most of all teaching!
I think everyone can learn, until his death and everyone should. Presenting a good game to Draugnar and being able to brag about it later was something I was looking forward to. I showed this game to many fellow players, including mods, saying: ‘Look! Look! How balanced we are, this is a beautiful game, it is worth to follow’
Then in 1920 Russia built a new fleet StP south coast and things started to go south. As we all know (well I thought we all know) StP cannot be defended from the south, hence you can take it anytime you want. Therefore this new fleet was crucial to be contained (nice build Fairfax!)

My very first mistake was I assumed (because that’s what I’m used to) that everyone in this game is well aware of the fact, that fleet must die, and that priority number 1!

By 1921 that fleet has entered Prussia. In 1921 I had Italy FULLY covered, all I had to do was to pull back to Tunis from Ionian and build in Mars, stalemate is done!!! England didn’t see that, he started coming down, instead of taking care of that fleet. So I had to go defensive, build in Brest, and let Italy be lost to Russia.
England, even though he says, had nothing to do south. There was no single moment in the game, when I wasn’t able to pull back and save Tunis with a solid stalemate. No English unit was ever needed south!
In 1922 I had to decide what to sacrifice, Marseilles or Munich. This is where this Forum thread starts to be interesting. England finally taking Berlin (after years of my unused support) I knew we are in big big trouble. I even PM-ed one of my fellow players, that we will lose this. So my choice was clear I have to save Munich, and lose Marseilles, which gives time for England to clear Prussia!
And here is where my head blew up! Draugnar says, I’m stupid I let Marseilles fall, but if he had looked at the map he would have seen I had to choose. My intention was to HELP, to keep Berlin safe, so he can take Prussia. In 1923 Spring he screwed up, though it was a 100% solution, to attack Moscow. I lose Munich, he gets Berlin, I retreat to Tunis (as always planned) and we draw.
After screwing that up, he kept going south??? Which I had covered all the time, I guess he just cannot count to 17. One phase later all he had to do was to do the same attack, and attack Moscow. Yet he has lost Livonia, and with it Berlin instantly.
I had 3 choices to SAVE this game and HELP England: one was to try to get back Munich, second to take Kiel with an army, and take back Munich with it’s help, 3rd was to save Italy somehow.
All my following moves were determined to serve the above 3 goals, for which this stupid fuck thinks I was attacking him, even though I was trying to HELP him and SAVE his as, while correcting his mistakes. Yet he’s blaming me.
First: I have attacked Bohemia from Tyrolia in 1923 Autumn. That was my ONLY option, to give another chance for England. I had to do this, to ensure Silesia is not used to move into Prussia, which leads to instantly losing the game. Every other move of mine was less likely to save the game. Meanwhile I held Naples/Tunis/Rome and allowed England to enter south, where he still had nothing to do.
I fucking helped you you idiot, and you think I was attacking.
In 1924 he still had the chance to save Berlin by entering Prussia, he didn’t, by this time it was clear we cannot hold it, as I lost Tyrolia, hence keeping Munich is easy for Russia, hence Silesia can be used to enter Prussia, which I was preventing for 2 years.
At this moment my options reduced to 2 scenarios: Get back munich (hence take Kiel) or save Italy.
In 1924 I have entered Holland to be able to take Kiel, so we have an army there, and I can triple attack Munich! Draugnar, I wasn’t attacking you!!!! I put a fucking army into Kiel, which you should have done years before to help holding Munich. Yet this ass thinks I was attacking him, I wasn’t, I was trying to save the game.
Meanwhile Italy, I was still keeping my lines mysteriously Russia played bad here.
In 1925 we had the opportunity to save the Italian line, also to take back Berlin! As I was finally able to triple attack Munich, Russia was unable to hold Berlin, my plan worked!!! I was finally in a position to secure Berlin for us, and I helped Baltic -> Berlin which I did, shown by the big map. I sent Brest north to help later in StP, as it was still weak, yet he thought I’m attacking him.
Fun fact, in 1926 I was also supporting Baltic -> Berling, which would have worked!!! My plan was finally working, we had this game, yet he moves against Livonia, making our one time chance go.
In 1925 autumn, I have attacked Western Med, to ‘tell him’ retreat to GoL, so you can help me create the only Italian stalemate line! What did he do? Took away Spain, instead of securing the game.
Meanwhile, more likely even though, I somehow managed to pull out the rabbit from the hat, and recreate the ONLY possible stalemate line, saving us, and all he had to do was support hold Naples. He didn’t and we lost at this moment for good.
At this point I was almost crying. I was trying to teach a fellow player how a quality gunboat looks like, how we usually operate, how to save a game, how to cooperate, how to communicate. I was doing my best, following 3 different strategies parallel (save Berlin, get back Munich, save Italy). All my hard work and effort to succeed in at least one of these three were sent to the trash.
I felt nausea, I couldn’t eat, my chest had this strange pressure. I was working my ass off to TEACH, HELP and EDUCATE someone how to play this game. My intentions were to make Draugnar a better player, this community more interconnected, FPers an GBers to understand each other and respect their differences. I have failed on each and I was about to cry, that this world cannot be a better place.
Draugnar you are cruel, your motivation is to destroy, your success in your life is ruining others’. People like me try to create something new and worthy, educate and widen the spectrum of others, as my SoW contribution shows as well. You have been given the chance to learn, to understand and experience a game, which only a few does here. You been invited to perform the most beautiful ballet we have ever had on this site, and be part of something special, you can be proud of.
You not just didn’t use this exceptional opportunity to your advantage, but you have ruined something unrepeatable and ripped out a piece of my heart. My ‘Swan Lake’ just went to ‘Romeo and Juliet’ in a single afternoon, which I cannot ever forgive you. And now I’m finally crying …
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
13 Feb 14 UTC
I love this post ..... and I love you Roka you +1 whore !!
Where the fuck is the fucking +101 button?!?
Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Feb 14 UTC
"I even PM-ed one of my fellow players, that we will lose this. "

You just admitted to violating a rule of the site! What the fuck were you discussing an ongoing anonymous gunboat with other players for!
rokakoma (19138 D)
13 Feb 14 UTC
"The issue with gunboats is discussing the game in the forum. Players can certainly ask for advice from others who are not in the game.

2WL"
Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Feb 14 UTC
And taking another players SC will never *ever* be interpreted by anyone as "helping them", asswipe.

I told JMO I was dropping this, but you brought it back. So fuck you. I never want to play with you again.
rokakoma (19138 D)
13 Feb 14 UTC
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I'm happy you understood the essence of my post. Thank you for supporting my argument's point with your exceptional remarks.
Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Feb 14 UTC
It's an anon gunboat. Were any of those other players possibly in the game? Were you quite possibly communicating with someone in the game? Then you were breaking the rules.
Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Feb 14 UTC
I'm not the only one here who saw your repeated attempts to take my SCs and then that final stab as what it really was (and what you are lying about), a stab to try and weaken me hoping to get to a two way draw. Quit lying, you sack of shit. You wanted a two way draw. Admit it or fuck off.
rokakoma (19138 D)
13 Feb 14 UTC
This was a passworded invitational game, you stupid. I knew exactly who was in that game, so did you. I didn't communicate with any of them, please feel free to ask the mods about it.

Two way draw?! LOL, that idea isn't even worth to answer. :)

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Arvid (192 D)
13 Feb 14 UTC
[Bug] Can't move a fleet from Petra to Nabatea
We're playing a game on the Ancient Mediterranean map, and for some reason I can't order my fleet in Petra to move to, or support a move to, Nabatea. Only Red Sea and Sinai.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=133544
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murraysheroes (526 D(B))
13 Feb 14 UTC
Replacement player needed for a relatively good Russian position.
gameID=132903

It's a private game with a good group of players that has played together fairly frequently. Russia has had some family matters that he needs to attend to and must leave the game.
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mendax (321 D)
06 Feb 14 UTC
Anyone else watching the 6 nations?
With one weekend down, how do you feel the teams played, and who's your favourite to win?
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JECE (1248 D)
13 Feb 14 UTC
Give a mark of approval for this post
I just now noticed that tooltip shows up when you hover over a "+1". Has that tooltip existed since the +1 system was first implemented?
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
13 Feb 14 UTC
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Site Gunboat Tournament
I strongly recommend everyone check out the 2014 Gunboat Tournament. Everyone can afford the by in, and the format gives everyone a shot at competing. The prize pot is site sponsored, and we (the mod team) want to make sure everyone knows they have a chance to participate. threadID=1096101 for more information
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oscarjd74 (100 D)
10 Feb 14 UTC
Abandoned positions
Is the incentive to not abandon a game effective? How about the incentive to take over an abandoned position? Discuss it in this thread.

Also, feel free to use this thread to name, shame, troll and nag those horrible people that abandon positions. I'll start. Kerzhakov is a dick (gameID=134319).
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
12 Feb 14 UTC
Fleet Rome
I want to start a discussion here on the implications of Italy starting off the game with a fleet in Rome instead of an army. How does it change Italy's strategic options? How does it change the plans of its neighbors?
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rs2excelsior (600 D)
12 Feb 14 UTC
Bouncing?
See below.
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
10 Feb 14 UTC
I need advice from the forum.
As above, below.

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Draugnar (0 DX)
12 Feb 14 UTC
...and you all call *me* a drama queen.
Just read rokacofuck's rants about a fucking game *then* pass judgment on me.
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rokakoma (19138 D)
12 Feb 14 UTC
Leaving the site now!
...
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
10 Feb 14 UTC
The Great Debate #4 - "Is the Bible inconsistent?"
"Are inconsistencies in the Protestant canon sufficient to undermine any claim to supernatural inspiration?" Ckroberts representing the Christian view, and dubmdell representing the atheist view. Full debate inside!
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Onar (131 D)
11 Feb 14 UTC
F2F vs. Online
I'm doing a research paper for sociology about Diplomacy. Does anyone have statistics regarding elimination in F2F games as opposed to games on here? Ideally, I'd like to see how early the first elimination occurs in a face to face game versus online.
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