This is for the next tourney guys. That's why it's under the heading, "Info for Future Gunboat Tournaments". The randomizing will be for each round, not the entire tourney. It impossible not to draw the same country when finalists will play 9 games.

Actually, next tourney will be four games per round.

I would lobby for the next round of the current tourney being four games, three games encourages too much weird play, you feel like you have too a strong handle on what your standing will be. Cool for press games, weird for gunboat. But I am loving it so far.

confident you've advanced, eh, gram?

No, but I still think it's a good idea.

I don't want to make changes to this tourney if possible. I know its not perfect. Going from idea to starting games in under three days may have something to do with that though. I simply hope that most are enjoying it and will be back for the next one, which should be much better thought out and organized.

Trip, it's been a great tourney so far. High quality gunboat games are hard to find and all of the games in the tournament have been of great quality so far, with great competition. I also honestly couldn't think of a better format; three games per round and three rounds has a nice symmetry to it. Thanks for organizing this, we all appreciate the work!

I've played absolutely terribly this tournament. Sorry, guys.

Actually, looking at the scoring system more closely, it's not the problem I thought it was. With some type of PPSC, I think the three game system would be devestating, I would be constantly tempted to throw solos.

@ gram: i think four games per round and the top 2 players automatically advancing will keep throwing solos to a minumum, if not cut it out completely.

concerning the re-randomizing to avoid drawing doubles in each round: my goal is to have the most well rounded player win. with this set up, the odds are good that players in the finals will have drawn every country during the tourney. while this does curb the randomness a bit, it doesn't cut it out completely. a player could still draw the same four countries each round.

think i may have stumbled onto a scoring system that is based on result, and accounts for centers:

24 pt must
24 for solo
24/n for draws

centers are worth .5 for solo
or for draws, 1/n squared

so

solo = 33pts

2wd = 16.250

3wd
17c = 9.887
1c = 8.111

4wd
17c = 7.071
1c = 6.063

5wd
17c = 5.480
1c = 5.200

6wd
17c = 4.476
1c = 4.028

7wd
17c = 3.770
1c = 3.450

!!!!!!!!! THIS IS NOT FOR CURRENT TOURNAMENT !!!!!!!!!!!

once again, thoughts are welcome

corrections:

5wd
1c 4.840

Why .5 for a solo? The same formula can be used and a solo would be worth 42, which I think is fair.

thats a good question, JP. i guess maxing the points for a solo makes sense.

is there another formula that would make a solo worth .5, and keep the other values the same?

i really don't like solos getting over 4x more points than a 17c 3wd, particularly with how scarce 2wds are in gunboats. i think .5 & 33 is fair too, and it keeps the other three games from becoming completely meaningless. it's still a longshot to miss the cut with just a solo, but it won't take seven other players in the bracket soloing and getting another result.

It seems a bit convoluted, but how about a center being worth 1/(2n+(3n-3)) ?

solo = 33

2wd = 14,42857143

3wd
17c = 9,416666667
1c = 8,083333333

4wd
17c = 7
1c = 6,058823529

5wd
17c = 5,572727273
1c = 4,845454545

6wd
17c = 4,62962963
1c = 4,037037037

7wd
17c = 3,959821429
1c = 3,459821429

It can obviously be simplified to 1/(5n-3), the "3n-3" bit was meant to show that this part of the expression becomes zero in case of a solo, therefore 1/2n = .5 .

Merry Christmas, gunboaters!

And a happy New Year!

Thanks JP, you too.

Looks like B's last game is oh so close to being finished. Not sure if that will happen by the third, but players from A, please keep an eye out. Once that games wraps up, I want to set a date for the start of round 2.

It'll be done by the third.

Group A:
Rank. Name (Points / Results / Total Centers / Solo's Allowed [if applicable])

1. doofman (20 / S, 3wd, 3wd / 43)
2. Barn3tt (8 / 3wd, 3wd / 24 / 1)
3. LittleBigMatt (4 / 3wd / 12 / 1)
4. jcbryan97 (4 / 3wd / 7/ 1)
5. ava2790 (- / - / - / 1)
-. ashen_shugar (- / - / - / 1)
-. Maettu (- / - / - / 1)

Group B:
Rank. Name (Points / Results / Total Centers / Solo's Allowed [if applicable])

1. Frank (14 / S, 6wd / 28)
2. gramilaj (5 / 4wd, 6wd / 21 / 1)
3. 48v4stepansk (5 / 4wd, 6wd / 18 / 1)
4. Kamen (5 / 4wd, 6wd / 4 /1)
5. Bilbo (3 / 4wd / 7 / 1)
6. figlesquidge (2 / 6wd / 7 / 1)
7. Kingdroid (2 / 6wd / 1 / 1)

Group C:
Rank. Name (Points / Results / Total Centers / Solo's Allowed [if applicable])

1. trip (8.4 / 4wd, 4wd, 5wd / 35)
2. Gobba (8.4 / 4wd, 4wd, 5wd / 27)
3. IKE (5.4 / 4wd, 5wd / 26)
4. TBroadley (5.4 / 4wd, 5wd / 6)
5. TrustMe (3 / 4wd / 3)
6. rodrigotjader (3 / 4wd / 2)
7. podium (2.4 / 5wd / 3)

Group D:
Rank. Name (Points / Results / Total Centers / Solo's Allowed [if applicable])

1. Lando Calrissian (11 / 3wd, 4wd, 3wd / 25)
2. Jesus Petry (7 / 3wd, 4wd / 28)
3. Troodonte (7 / 3wd, 4wd / 22)
4. The Czech (7 / 4wd, 3wd / 11)
5. anlari (4 / 3wd / 16)
6. askninjasks (- / - / -)
-. coffeebean (- / - / -)

Congrats, gramilaj, 48v4stepansk and Kamen, who have now secured a second stage spot!

Now that was a fun game! I worked from the start with Germany, but we got severly bogged down in France, so he stabbed me. He didn't have the fleets to follow through though, so I was able to entirely hold him off except for the initial stab (1 dot stab, though I wouldn't say it was terrible, and it was precipitated by a misorder of Hol-Edi). Add to that France destroying their one fleet and holding on to their armies made it a realiatively safe game for me. It was just the kind I like to play as England, you can stab everyone, and no one can do anything back. I had gained Portugal ealy on, so by the time Turkey started knocking on Iberia I had MAO signed and sealed. There was a heart stopping moment where I misordered a support and Turkey got Spain, but after a year of timid play, believeing I would take Brest (which I would have if Spain not gone down) France stepped up and locked him out of Mar.

I thought this game was never going to end, so I occupyed myself by taking as many German canters as I could without breaking the stalemate line. Had it continued, I would have grabbed Kiel, then buildt another fleet and started making a play for Spain. GG all!

lets start round two!

Is it possible for people to participate, or is it just too late?

gameID=41847

Here's the link for Group B game 2, PS. Done in time for Jan 3rd!

Heard that.

A & B's semi (aka Group 1) is set to start Jan 3rd. If anyone has an issue with that, please let me know asap. I'm aslo going to need a volunteer to create the games (Monday, not today) and send the links to figlesquidge.

Congrats semi-finalists, and thanks all.

@ arsen: it's too late for people to join this one.

@gramilaj: your tactics seemed very strange to me. Eating Germany and me (France) while we were holding of Turkey. Your mistake when you handed Spain to Turkey almost resulted in my retreat from Marseiles and letting Turkey to solo. If you would jump on Brest I would certainly do that :-).
But congrats to all (but me) for good game. You and Bilbo had me from the first move and I was all the time in defense, just trying to survive, mostly repeating same boring orders and admiring the way you were killing figle, Kingdoid and Frank :-D