Im not saying that he "is" the tracker. Im just saying "what if"

"The Tracker could save us"

Did you just townclaim?

Also please answer my previous question.

Jamiet, can you buzz off and conduct a real investigation?

I will buzz off as soon as you actually respond to me.

I stated why Chaqa was my top read several pages ago. I said he anchored his vote on the bo wagon and vanished. Its not much but its "outside" the obvious choices. if we wanna kill bo, lets kill bo.

Chaqa is your "top read" because he voted for bo? Lots of people voted for bo.

You're an idiot.

@OBG, yes, directing a lynch on someone is good for anyone on a small team. The problem with your logic is that it rules out exactly nobody.

- Cult, Masons, and Mafia are most obvious. They are all on small teams and they know their teammates.
- Traitors and Town PRs are also on small teams. They just want to survive the day. Directing a lynch on anyone else is equally good for them. Sure a Town PR might inadvertently direct a lynch on a fellow Town PR, but they are never going to have any idea today who the other Town PRs are anyway, so they should be trying to do the exact same thing as the Traitors, direct a lynch onto anyone but them.

To say that directing a lynch is "best" for the cult is not probative. The move is consistent with literally every role.

@Y2K, when you say "rereading D1 will be a lot more useful" later, you should consider: "useful to whom." It is very unclear to whom it will be useful later. No matter what role you have, it is not at all clear that you want a big record on Day 1, even if all of this "scumhunting" right now were not utter nonsense (it is).

--- Really, nobody else wants to hammer? I think folks should consider again, and adjust to the game they are playing. This is not garden variety mafia.

I'd hammer but I got nothing but abuse for it last time out.

Otherwise I see no point in suspecting anyone, my top 5 is slightly adjusted however.

5. guak - outing mafia PR's and fishing is untraitory
4. xorxes - he looked very concerned about targeting cult and masons early on.
3. ghug - I am lightening up on him, but I do think he was directing mason traffic
2. vash - still think hes a town PR
1. Chaqa - anchored to bo and vanished. could be a bus, and/or a coordinated plan by masons to remove tracker from relevance. as tracker could actually be harmful to them.

Balki - I never said it was probitive, I said cult had the most to gain from it. Motive. You know something about motive right?

I am aware that lots of people are voting to kill bo. I am aware of why they want to kill bo. When someone says to you, hey guys, Im on the other team. its not a bad idea to analyze why, and who they may be protecting. Its also wise to see who jumped on their wagons first as more likely than not a teammate or two is on bo's wagon.

@OB: I agree that for cultmaster it is easier to make such an statement. And I am not against A BB lynch given that he insists on ending the phase early, which is stupid. But what I mean is that such a statement could be made by basically anyone and is not really alignment indicative. It is more 'stupid-indicative', and BB has been known in several games for making stupid proposals, so I am not at all surprised by this. He has been a strong advocate for no lynches on D1 in the past and for tie votes. It doesn't surprise me that in this setup he wants a random D1 kill given how much chaos and madness there will be.

That being said,

##VOTE meme

I think this setup has no room for lurkers.

I really would be against ending the D1 phase early, Vecna hasnt even posted yet. We dont know if he will get replaced, or modkilled? We have no idea if HR is lurking or just busy. I strongly disagree with Balki voting to End which is why I dont beleive thats what he is actually trying to do with that vote.

Balki - You haven't responded to my question. Was your immediate vote on me based on my adjudication last game?

@OBG, let's say we are trying to figure out who ate a delicious cookie. You have pointed out (wrongly) that cult leaders love cookies the absolute most and would have enjoyed that cookie. I have pointed out that everyone else loves cookies too.

As a result, we have learned nothing. A cult leader has a motive to do what I did, and everyone else does too.

Until you start pointing out something someone is done that is inconsistent with any role, you have drawn no meaningful distinctions.

I don't expect you to draw any meaningful distinctions today. Today is ridiculous.

##Call GM can we get a vote count? seems like there is an awful lot of wagons out there.

Woah, speak captainmeme's name and he shall appear.

Lurker!

Hello :)

I like cookies.

@captain, no my vote on you was based on your actions up to that point in the game. You hadn't said a word. Very fishy.

A shot rings out. Everyone looks to see that Y2KJBK, a Traitor, has been killed.
30 hours and 2 minutes remain in Day One

There are a lot of cookies on the plate, but some are poisonous. If you're a cult leader though, you're immune to the poison, so it's safe to eat any cookie.

Yup, it's all CIFOM

Honestly, I dislike trying to find leads on D1 in normal games. In this game the only people we can really find leads to D1 are the two Masons and the two Cult Masters, and the only way we find info from that is one person trying to protect one another person - things people do anyway.

I'm not speaking right now because I'm not sure what I should be talking about. If people want to throw some questions my way please do so - it might make this easier. For now, though, my vote remains on Bo - I think his townslip is interesting and the pressure could potentially give us valuable information.

@meme: gotta love your timing there

why would anyone kill y2k? makes no sense

Consider the following:
1. If we consolidate wagons onto Balki and Bo, we prevent a tie. Balki has stated he just wants to lynch someone and move on. Bo has all but sacrificed himself. If deadlines approach we should kill balki over bo, because bo is very likely not a Mason.
2. Tonight vig will kill 2 people, after lynch the game is down to 16 players. Cult will convert and grow to 3 members, masons may convert and grow as well. By morning mafia will night kill, and QM will have gunned, if Fab also guns we could be looking at a pile of dead bodies for SoD2.
3. With this in mind consider the odds that a lurker cult or town is still alive. Consider them a prime candidate for lynch.
4. Mafia may already be on brink of losing by EoD2 if we mislynch.

So the vigilante makes his move.

Woah wtf!? was that real?