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pitirre (0 DX)
12 Dec 07 UTC
last minute to play at turquoise days!!!
register...fast!!

i hope to see you all tomorrow and play this game that soon will become a classic. Now i will prepare because im going to see The Police at concert!!

yes!!!!
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james3838 (184 D)
12 Dec 07 UTC
Is this a bug? Cut supportting army?
Spring 1908, Diplomacy: Your army at Ukraine was attacked by the army at Sevastopol, but your army at Ukraine was supporting an attack against the army at Sevastopol and the army at Sevastopol has no support, so the army at Sevastopol failed.

MOS - SEV
UKR S MOS - SEV
SEV - MOS

MOS - SEV failed - very clearly 2 v 1
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figlesquidge (2131 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
Right: final showdown!
So, after a long thread that got nowhere in establishing the best diplomacy player of all time, one last go. Everyone may have one vote, just a single positive vote for your favourite. The votes will be checked through for double voting, or for multiple accounts voting. For anyone who wasn't following, the options are:
Kahn
Bismarck
Alexander
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Kahn for me (started with nothing, got loads then when he died it died showing he was the reason it built up)
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bihary (2782 D(S))
06 Dec 07 UTC
I vote Bismarck because he was a shrewd diplomat, and not a general. He represents Diplomacy at its best.

Kahn 1
Bismarck 1
Alexander 0
TOgilvie (845 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
I vote Alex, cause his secret nickname was Awesome McChuck-Norris. Also, his global spanning empire came before the other two's therefore he has precedence.
Kahn 1
Bismarck 1
Alexander the Great 1
Noodlebug (1812 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
Figlesquigle didn't say everyone MUST give a valid reason for their vote to be counted, but I think the first three posts have set a good precedent.

I choose Khan because he rose from being a simple herder (not a Prince or an Aristocrat) to controlling what I think is technically the world's largest ever empire using all the skills a Diplomacy player should employ - alliances, skilled negotiation, ruthless pursuit of his goals. He died of natural causes, still in command of his realms, and in carefully grooming his heirs he helped the lands he conquered thrive long after his death. Alexander and Bismarck were great, great men but you cannot say their achievements exceed Ghenghis Khan.

Khan 2
Bismarck 1
Alexander 1
rexx78 (100 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
Bismarck +1
dangermouse (5551 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
I reserve my right to vote last in case of tiebreaks (or to create a tie if I don't like who's winning)
Lynius (100 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
Khan 2
Bismarck 3
Alexander 1
Khan +1

Khan 3
Bismarck 3
Alexander 1
Chrispminis (916 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
+1 for the Khan.

Khan 4
Bismarck 3
Alexander 1

I respect all of them, but honestly, Genghis should be at the top.
cgwhite32 (1465 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
How can you not vote for Alexander? - greatest General there ever was, defeated armies 20 times the size of his, and he *was* a good diplomat. See my post in earlier discussions for the reasons why - I'm shattered and need sleep!

Alexander +1

Khan 4
Bismark (god knows why he's still in this) 3
Alexander 2
Wombat (722 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
Go Khan!

see my reasons from the previous thread... I've typed a lot.

Khan 5
Bismarck 3
Alexander 2
fastspawn (1625 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
I have explained my stance on Khan numerous times from a purely diplomatic standpoint and his negotiations. His military genius was so great that it often overshadows the fact that he manages to get the upper hand on any form of negotiation.

Khan 6
Bismarck 3
Alexander 2
flashman (2274 D(G))
06 Dec 07 UTC
I'm with the Wombat here - at least he's lived as a nomad with the Mongols... (Tended to tread more on cow-pats than take down warriors with a composite bow though...)

I have given my reasons elsewhere,
there is simply no-one to compare,
I vote Temuchin,
Geat Genghis to win,
a victory deserved and most fair!

Khan 7
Bismark 3
Alexander 2


ps How does Wombat get online at such an early hour when he is supposed to be at school revising for a Bio test?
Nick Douglas (408 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
Khan +1.
SJC-howard (100 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
I vote for Khan.
Khan+1

Khan 9
Bismark3
Alexander 2
Sorakan (126 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
Khan 9
Bismark3
Alexander 2

Khan easily. Great leader, formed an empire from a land where the country was torn and divided between tribes. Today you still here stories of the Mongol Hordes. And clearly the hordes have been a problem (Great Wall of China anyone? None of the others have had great walls built to keep them from reforming their empire).
Sorakan (126 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
err...
Khan 10
Bismark3
Alexander 2

Forgot to put my vote in the total amount.
Evilduck (322 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
The great wall was built way before Khan was born.

Alexander. He also formed an empire. I think Khan would also be a great diplomacy player, but his scare tactics would not work in diplomacy because the players do not fear for their life.

Khan 10
Bismark3
Alexander 3
flashman (2274 D(G))
06 Dec 07 UTC
The Great wall was not built way before Genghis... Much of it was built long after he died... It was started early, and is best considered a work in progress - some emperors devoted more resources to it than others. Genghis reresented the sort of threat the wall was intended to keep out. Fat lot of good it did though. The fancy bits tourists get shown north of Beijing for example are primarily Ming...

As you are in error regarding the wall, perhaps you would adjust your vote acordingly... ;)
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
06 Dec 07 UTC
just leave the voters alone, Flashman. They have just the right to vote as you have, and you have no permit to force others to retract votes and vote according to what YOU think.

So just stop this 'You say this, but you are wrong; I am right, you must follow my decision' behaviour.
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
06 Dec 07 UTC
Just leave the voters alone, Flashman. They have just the right to vote as you have, and you have no permit to force others to retract votes and vote according to what YOU think.
So just stop this 'You say this, but you are wrong; I am right, you must follow my decision' behaviour.
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
06 Dec 07 UTC
and I will vote for Bismarck.
Firstly, Genghis basically used 'obey me or die' rule. He supressed those Chinese and Jurchen people after he conquered them. He put them as the lowest class. As you can see, the Yuan dynasty soon fell into Civil Disorder...uprisings everywhere. Not a good way to end a game!
As for Alexander, he just let his super army right into India and then died of sickness there, at the age of 34.
His opponents simply had no chance. It was something like 10 units coming out of Greece and wiping eastward. Not a fair player, huh, to put more than one unit in a province...
As for Bismarck, he firstly tricked Austria into attacking Denmark with him so that he could see how strong the Austrian
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
06 Dec 07 UTC
army was. Then he declared war on Austria without any reason (another diplomatic move) so that all the states of the German Confederation joined together (and lost due to less advanced weapons). That was how he unified Germany.
So he was the most diplomatic of the three in his wars. He started with only one unit (Prussia wasn't as strong as the Austrians, he just walked into Berlin and Kiel) and ended up with three.
Well, you may say they kicked him out of the government. But the country didn't go into CD, it actually started expanding more and gained more SC's.
Bismarck is certainly the best of the three. So one vote for Bismarck.
flashman (2274 D(G))
06 Dec 07 UTC
At last an argument.

falacious in some of its assumptions, but an argument nonetheless.

At least you can only vote once this time round... :)
maggotjoe (143 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
+1 Khan
Chairman Mao (340 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
+ 1 Khan
Labond (140 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
+1 Alexander
The Kaiser (2 D)
07 Dec 07 UTC
+1 Bismark
the dictator (65 D)
07 Dec 07 UTC
+1 khan
the dictator (65 D)
07 Dec 07 UTC
13 khan
5 bismarck
3 khan
Go Kahn!
and LOL the dictator :D

13 Khan
5 Bismarck
3 Alexander

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the dictator (65 D)
09 Dec 07 UTC
Greatest diplomacy player ever final 3
Khan
Bismarck
Alexander the great

everybody is aloud to vote once and there is a new rule dont give a reason to why the person you are voting for is good but why he is better then the other two. And you give 2 pionts to your fav 1 to your second
first person to 200 wins

I will start by voting for Khan, he united all of mongalia, which is just as good as bismarck uniting germany, he conquered more land with fewer troops than alex the great did and bismarck was never a ruler, alex was an alcholic and died of alchol poising at 32 wich is why he did not conquer as much as khan but that was his fault. i think that is enough reasons on why khan is the greatest of the 3 and alex was greater than bismarck so...

Khan 2
Alex 1
bismarck 0
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Tman401 (126 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
Ciil Disorder
Does any one know how long it takes for some one to go to civil disorder? I was just curious, waiting for some of the players in my games.
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Wolf Of Fenris (100 D)
11 Dec 07 UTC
Is there a way to leave a game?
I was just fooling around with this site, joined a friends game then decided to change my account name... so I created a new account, joined with that account, and was going to leave the game with the original account. Now I can't figure out how to leave the game with my original account and I have two players in the game...
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pitirre (0 DX)
11 Dec 07 UTC
hurry up; turqouise days!!
register to play at turquoise days; a game considered to be a classic among the experts!!

register...now!!
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Zxylon (0 DX)
09 Dec 07 UTC
World War XVIII is in Due Now Phase
Kestas. Please fix our game
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dangermouse (5551 D)
26 Nov 07 UTC
No Press Game completed
Well, the no-press (i.e. Gunboat) game has ended. It went about as I expected. With no talking and no real way to infer what other players were thinking (seeing as how most moves could not be seen) there was basically no working together. We did have several apparent non-aggression pacts going on. For example there was little to no fighting between myself (Italy) and France or Germany.

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2022
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pitirre (0 DX)
11 Dec 07 UTC
new great game created; Turquoise Days
not for the weak of mind; play at turquoise days!!!

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Thucydides (864 D(B))
11 Dec 07 UTC
What happens when (if) you run out of points?
I see people with zero points and I'm wondering: Can you even take part in games anymore or are you effectively booted off the site?
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knottybynature (100 D)
11 Dec 07 UTC
new game
I need noobs to come and play in the I need new players room.
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bihary (2782 D(S))
06 Dec 07 UTC
misunderstanding with dip points
There are many top 100 players whose dip points I do not understand. Take, for example, Seedling (I do not want to pick on him, this is just an example):
Seedling's profile:
Points: 492
Position: 96
Games won: 1

No active games, let us look at his results from finished games. I am listing game name, pot size, Seedling's result, and the dip points he should have earned. I calculate it as: Pot * (Units at end)/34. It is not exact, but should be a good estimate, right?

Finished games:
Diplomacy... Autumn 1915
Pot: 165
Seedling (492) as England: 9 units
Earned: 44 DP

FoC Diplo Game! Autumn 1914
Pot: 154
Seedling (492) as England: 15 units
Earned: 68 DP

Light and Dark Autumn 1909
Pot: 154
Seedling (492) as France: 12 units
Earned: 54 DP

FOC 6 Autumn 1909
Pot: 132
Seedling (492) as Italy: 9 units
Earned: 35 DP

FOC 3 Autumn 1907
Game won by Seedling (492)
Pot: 110
Seedling (492) as Turkey: 18 units
Earned: 58 DP

So altogether he earned 259 DP points. OK, he started from 100 DP, so he may have 359 DP. But I did not even count his investments he had to pay to join those games!
How on earth does he have 492 DP points? Do I misunderstand something here? I see the same too high points typically for players who are not active any more... An other example is mate.
Something fishy is going on...
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gameover (619 D)
11 Dec 07 UTC
new game
recyle please! is up and open
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sean (3490 D(B))
09 Dec 07 UTC
treaty etiquette
i wanted to ask some of the players , especially the more successful ones among you about game etiquette, first..is there any? one makes a deal (say an agreed upon DMZ for example)... is it consider bad form to break that deal that turn? i should imagine so but it seems not. one should follow the letter of the law ( deal)but the spirit of the law is more ..shall we say flexibly followed? or do we live in a hobbesian dog eat dog world? on a more practicable note..do you lie directly to your fellow countries or fob them off with civil but meaningless phrases? or pretend you didn't sign in and was therefor unaware of their offer? just like to here some general thoughts on the subject.
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keeper0018 (100 D)
01 Dec 07 UTC
name games...
i know that the leader of germany is the kaiser, the leader of turkey is the sultan, the leader of russia is the czar, the leader of italy is il duce, and the leader of england is the prime minister. but what do you call the leaders of austria and france?
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Stephen V (345 D)
09 Dec 07 UTC
Too many in Civil Disorder
What the heck people? I mean really. I was a member of this site before and there were a few games with people in civil disorder but not all that often. Now look. It seems EVERY game I'm in there is someone in civil disorder. If you look through the join-able games there is a whole page of civilly disordered countries you can join! If you're going to play, PLAY! don't ruin games for people. This site is for fun. I know it's not serious, but it's not fun when you expect a proper game and from the start it's not. It's just not worth playing after that. And if you're losing, tough it out. Win on another game. You can't win them all.

Seriosuly people.
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RepsaJ (100 D)
08 Dec 07 UTC
Bug?
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=1954

I clearly got 9 SC's. Why I still got 7 units? Can someone help me out?
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bajeezus (574 D)
09 Dec 07 UTC
Due...well, a while ago
I'm in a game that's been "due" for like two days now. I mean, I wouldn't care if I were like a lot of you, but I'm only in two games total...makes it annoying if you get me.

Anyways, hopefully just by posting this the fates will miraculously change the game to make me look stupid...but, then again, that just means I can keep playing, stupidity is a sacrifice I'm willing to make...oh yeah, if the fates are still bastards, kestas (that's the guy in charge here right?) could you maybe see what the problem is?

Thanks a bunch. I love you all. Except you, yeah you reading this. Everyone else is cool but you...unless your Kestas...way to go man, you rock!!! Wow I'm gonna stop typing now...
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Vampiero (3525 D)
04 Dec 07 UTC
Player Demographics
I was just curious at what type of people play diplomacy in general, so i thought id ask here. if you guys want, just write some info about yourself such as:
-what country you live in
-gender and age
-married or not
-profession
-hobbies
some of these questions might be personal so feel more than free to omit any of them. no names please.

California, USA
male, 18
college student
martial arts, racing, philosophy, and of course DIPLOMACY!
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figlesquidge (2131 D)
08 Dec 07 UTC
Suggestion: Gamemaster link
On games stuck in 'Run Now' please could we have a link to set them as unprocessed. Currently, if for some reason the Gamemaster does not run correctly, the game is left as processed, and so does not get processed next time, even though it needs to be. Another option would be in the bottom of the help page to have a 'clear Blocked games' link. Thus only players who had intentionally gone to find the link would click it - you wouldn't have people just running the gamemaster again and again wasting resources
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alamothe (3367 D(B))
07 Dec 07 UTC
trtrttrtrtrtr
kestas, we broke the game: http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2267
please fix it
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ice point (55 D)
02 Dec 07 UTC
brother
Chairman Mao and arthurmklo are brother?
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Gengis (100 D)
07 Dec 07 UTC
Further bug
last round it was indicated that Turkey had not yet finalized its orders by the deadline, yet when they were evaluated it turns out they had been. very annoying.
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amathur2k (100 D)
08 Dec 07 UTC
advertise phpdiplomacy on google
Hi Guys,
I have an experimental google adwords account.
and am planning to advertise phpdiplomacy

just wanted to find out if its legal and if you guys can come up with good punch lines.
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El_Perro_Artero (707 D)
08 Dec 07 UTC
Compromise
I've heard a lot of arguing over whether the pot should be split by SC's or a winner-take-all kind of deal. Why don't we just make this an option when creating games? I'd like to hear some other suggestions though.
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figlesquidge (2131 D)
04 Dec 07 UTC
Greatest Diplomacy Player - last 3 (cont.)
17 Alexander
19 Bismarck
14 Khan
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Still going, and I must admit I'm surprised. Please, when voting, everyone give a reason!
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jasperleeabc (100 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
Bug?
Somehow I don't receive notification for messages from other player, why? Is it a bug? It happened in the game "tusker".
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daniele (197 D)
07 Dec 07 UTC
bugs...
i think recently there are many bugs in the game

look at this situation for example

http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2195

why can't i retreat from s.petersburg since bothnia is free, as finland, and bar.sea!!! i can't understand it
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Otto Von Bismark (653 D)
30 Nov 07 UTC
Greatest Diplomacy Player
I am Honored that you all agree that I am the greatest Diplomacy player of all time :) I will add a +1 to myself if that is legal and -1 to Genghis.
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