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President Trump recognizes Jeruselem as the capital of Israel.
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Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
07 Dec 17 UTC
Trump is a master negotiator.

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07 Dec 17 UTC
president deals.

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JamesYanik (548 D)
07 Dec 17 UTC
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Everyone already voted to do this 6 months ago, ever since the 1995 Jerusalem Embassy Act. This is just the first time the President hasn't waived it.

to all the people upset in the Senate about this: shut up, if you TRULY thought this were a bad idea, then you shouldn't have voted for it. I hate these political pretends and make-believe gestures that happen in reaction to this. the resolution was passed 90-0.

And they're made the President is enacting what they voted on. NOOOOOOOOOO HOW COUUULLLD HEEEEEE??????? when people insult the political class, often the criticisms are lacking... but not this time. what a bunch of cowards.
JamesYanik (548 D)
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Also it kind of throws a cog in the works of the "he's a nazi" rhetoric, along with the anti-semitic stuff.

it should be clear to everyone now that he's just really dumb.
ND (879 D)
07 Dec 17 UTC
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It's great that we are finally recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Long overdue. Getting lots of awesome stuff done recently, go Trump!!
CroakandDagger (718 D)
07 Dec 17 UTC
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Honestly I think all the anti-semitism from the left-wing and in the press is really unwarranted, but at least in England we've known Labour has had an anti-Jewish slant for a long time, so it's not a surprise.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
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What anti-semitism from the left and the press? Maybe that's true in England, but in the United States you usually hear right wingers complain about Jews controlling the banks, the courts, the media, and entertainment.

A two-state solution to the Israel/Palestine conflict is the only possible solution, and no one outside of Israel and Trump's immediate circle sees this as a step forward.

Trump rewards his allies and punishes his "enemies", in this case Palestinians who he probably thinks are all Muslims. He didn't even push Bibi to do anything productive either.

NOT A DEAL AT ALL.
CroakandDagger (718 D)
07 Dec 17 UTC
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Jews are disproportionately represented in banking, law, media and paedowood. That's not anti-semitism, that's objective assessment. But refusing to acknowledge Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel for 22 years in an attempt to strong-arm the Jewish ethnostate into capitulating to palestinian terrorists is frankly disgusting.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
07 Dec 17 UTC
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Quick! Name a country with an embassy in Jerusalem!
ND (879 D)
07 Dec 17 UTC
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The left wing in the United States is pro-Palestine and anti-Israel. That is very anti-Semitic. I am not surprised, the left is pretty sick.
StevenC. (1047 D(B))
07 Dec 17 UTC
Are you kidding? Conservatives in the US are extremely pro-Israel. You're thinking of the alt-right, Jeff.
StevenC. (1047 D(B))
07 Dec 17 UTC
*conservatives and Republicans
JamesYanik (548 D)
07 Dec 17 UTC
goddamnit guys, you're both right. the libertarian and anti-FED area of politics do have a lot of anti-Semitic tendencies, even Ron Paul had some interesting things to say about Judaism back in the day...

anti semitism isn't just confined to one political ideology. racism isn't, sexism (and sexual assault) isn't
JamesYanik (548 D)
07 Dec 17 UTC
@Steven C

it's not JUST alt right, but there IS a big element of antisemitism in the alt right
TrPrado (461 D)
07 Dec 17 UTC
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I was kind of holding out hope he would simultaneously recognize East Jerusalem as the capital of Palestine. I would’ve gotten a chuckle.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
07 Dec 17 UTC
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The left is anti-Israeli policies vis-a-vis Palestine. That is *NOT* anti-Semitic. There weren't two Intifadas for nothing. Right wingers love state sponsored assassinations apparently.
TrPrado (461 D)
07 Dec 17 UTC
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There are places where anti-Likud (I like to specify the party of Netanyahu instead of all of Israel) rhetoric is taken to the extreme conclusion of anti-Semitism. It’s not universal for those who criticize the policies of Israel but it does happen.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
07 Dec 17 UTC
I get that many of you are young here and don't have a lot of perspective on US-Israeli relations, but here's a quick article which lays out a bit more history. The GOP wasn't always the best friend of Israel.

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/gop-went-zionist/
yavuzovic (655 D)
08 Dec 17 UTC
You can read my comment at my page. I wrote an article about that in school magazine. I believe America did a very bad thing because Trump didn't obey the agreement of UN.
c0dyz (100 D)
08 Dec 17 UTC
I believe that the rights ultra support of Israel is not because it is a Jewish State. It’s because the Palestinians are “Muslims, brown people” and Jews are generally seen as white.
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08 Dec 17 UTC
IMO, the right's ultra support of Israel is more based on religion.
Judaism preceded Christianity. Indeed, Jesus was Jewish. Jesus' crucifixion was the culmination of Christianity, aside from the second coming and other stuff from Revelations.

HOWEVER, the prophet Muhammad went even further in monotheism. Christians cannot abide by the Quran and Hadiths because they came later. The time line is critical.

The psychology is that Christians can look down on Jews, but they can't have Muslims look down on them, simply because their faith came later (and may be a more recent revelation from God).
ND (879 D)
08 Dec 17 UTC
lol I'm not even going to respond to that
trip (696 D(B))
08 Dec 17 UTC
Obama's last line is my favorite

www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyF4_NVgllc
CroakandDagger (718 D)
08 Dec 17 UTC
"the prophet Muhammad went even further in monotheism"

I won't fight you there. He even dictated that those who don't follow his word should be killed.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
08 Dec 17 UTC
The doctrines matter little to me because I don't believe any of them. But the fact that one claims to be built off the other does matter to those of faith.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
08 Dec 17 UTC
Every POTUS since 1995 has said "Jerusalem is the capital of Israel." Trump just wanted to be the first to move it there no matter the consequence. IT IS ALL ABOUT HIM. Pathetic.
MamaLama (212 D)
08 Dec 17 UTC
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I like how you guys think it is anti-semetic to be pro-palistinain. The Israelis
have oppressed for so long and how completely brutalized their people, but you would racist to say the deserve their own country.
CroakandDagger (718 D)
08 Dec 17 UTC
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But it is racist to say that a people deserve their own country.

Palestinians trying to oust the jews from Israel by terrorism and international pressure are no better than nazis, little englanders or MAGA nationalists.
JamesYanik (548 D)
08 Dec 17 UTC
@trip

all talk, no actual legislation. kind of like the last 5 years of his presidency
orathaic (1009 D(B))
08 Dec 17 UTC
Yeah, Jesus and Mohammed are all the rage in modern Imperialistic policies in the middle east.
Israel is like the 51st US state, closest ally in the region, surrounded by enemies, and so geo-politics all the way.

It is not anti-semetic to oppose the policies of the state of Israel, states are not people, there are many Jews who disagree with the way that Israeli Zionism has been enacted.

I'm afraid i'm with JY on this, Trump continues to be an idiot, latedt news, emergency security council meeting on this?

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